VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[GamingSavant]

I'll say that goths and pierced nipples go hand-in-hand as much as tats do, specifically the straight barbell variety of piercings.

 

[TD1900]

Well to be fair, Exhibitions are the absolute longest days of any game week. You have a hurdle of story with the pre-Exhibition scenes, then you have the meeting at the club and getting to do all the Free Roam talks with all the various variables that go into play for that, then the Exhibition match itself and having to cover the different choices for every girl and how that'll factor in who wins, and finally the post-match where any number of scenes could happen. That's the meat of the coding slog right there; the rest is mostly just visual novel pathing with the rendering and animations + sounds and script.

That's the bait guy. He's... obsessive. Be weary of newly created accounts with new posts.

In this case, he's not wrong that the game has a long road to go, but I'm pretty sure he's just trying to be inflammatory.

We joke it'll be 2032 by the time we're done, but who knows. Week 3 will have taken us three years and some change when it's done. Week 4 does have the added epilogues, but none of the weeks are paced evenly. Some of the weekdays might go faster in week 4, some definitely won't.

Either way, it's safe to say we're not rushing anything. We've invested too much time and effort that it'd a shame to not stick the landing. I just hope we can live up to the expectations of those following the project over the years.

 

[GamingSavant]

That's the bait guy. He's... obsessive. Be weary of newly created accounts with new posts.

In this case, he's not wrong that the game has a long road to go, but I'm pretty sure he's just trying to be inflammatory.

We joke it'll be 2032 by the time we're done, but who knows. Week 3 will have taken us three years and some change when it's done. Week 4 does have the added epilogues, but none of the weeks are paced evenly. Some of the weekdays might go faster in week 4, some definitely won't.

Either way, it's safe to say we're not rushing anything. We've invested too much time and effort that it'd a shame to not stick the landing. I just hope we can live up to the expectations of those following the project over the years.

Fair enough. I always try to humor anyone before I take anything completely serious, unless they're just assholes, then I just ignore them.

And yeah, total dev time is always a thing in the air, cuz while Roadmaps give people looking at the project an idea of how long it'll take, ultimately: Shit happens. Roadblocks and bumps in the way cause any number of issues that can delay releases, and sometimes it's the opposite where the team gets lucky and things go smoother than planned.

as I said earlier: Can't rush art, lol.

 

[slightchance]

Infatuated club member? She hates the patrons at a baseline level though, so idk how that could ever be a thing.

I was taking the piss. Still, things can change as long as Jeff & Mutt don't make it abundantly clear what paths lie ahead. Correct me if I am wrong but I think they've never actually talked about the tags Mina & Hana will be able to collect further down the road. Maybe now is the time to clear up the fog?!

 

[GamingSavant]

What I'm curious about is how Week 3 Exhibition will turn out for Felicia. What with Elias joining in on it by Kathleen's scheming, I see two possible outcomes, one being she has a much more drastic reason to win because his reaction to seeing his trophy wife on stage will likely be outrage from the embarrassment, OR he becomes one of those Cuck Husbands who sees his wife in a new light and starts getting a thrill from seeing her have sex with other men. Would be kind of funny if her winning meant Edwin just became her Bull lmao.

 

[Ottoeight]

I was taking the piss. Still, things can change as long as Jeff & Mutt don't make it abundantly clear what paths lie ahead. Correct me if I am wrong but I think they've never actually talked about the tags Mina & Hana will be able to collect further down the road. Maybe now is the time to clear up the fog?!

Nope. Not now, not ever.

 

[Mike the Red]

Hana should have pierced nipples. There. We're talking about the game again.

Given that Harper and Zara have had them, Hana is clearly familiar with them. Maybe we've found something that Hana's afraid of--and an opportunity to help her face that fear....

Spoiler: Harper & Zara Piercings

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[immortalslayer90]

I think if we are playing as an asshole MC, he should harsher to his mom, tell her she didn't do it for him, she did it because she liked it or something. Him instantly forgiving her makes total sense for a nicer guy run, but a full on dickhead run, it seems out of character, I think he would be more bitter.

 

[Zuze6]

I keep checking the forum for the next update. New here so i was wondering if there is a way to know that the update has dropped besides this

 

[prpa]

I keep checking the forum for the next update. New here so i was wondering if there is a way to know that the update has dropped besides this

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[Zuze6]

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Thank you stranger

 

[GamingSavant]

I think if we are playing as an asshole MC, he should harsher to his mom, tell her she didn't do it for him, she did it because she liked it or something. Him instantly forgiving her makes total sense for a nicer guy run, but a full on dickhead run, it seems out of character, I think he would be more bitter.

that would be an express ticket to getting slapped in the face. Hell, Killian probably wouldn't bat an eye if he found out Edwin was fucking Mina (well, maybe he would but he'd hide it well). If Edwin hurt Vicky though, Killian would probably actually slug him.

 

[immortalslayer90]

that would be an express ticket to getting slapped in the face. Hell, Killian probably wouldn't bat an eye if he found out Edwin was fucking Mina (well, maybe he would but he'd hide it well). If Edwin hurt Vicky though, Killian would probably actually slug him.

Ok, I'm fine with it causing a rift between MC and Killian, there are a lot of story opportunities there. In fact, considering that MC was the one who kept bullies from bothering Killian, him trying to beat him up would be an interesting thing. Also, the MC could remind him that she's his mother, not Killian, etc etc. Play him really bitter and angry.

I mean, bitter and angry seems to be a big part of it whether you play him nice or mean. And you can also have him choose to watch the videos of her, not for arousal purposes, but seemingly as an obsession. He sees flashes of the things she did in those videos when he looks at the other girls. It makes sense that a more asshole MC would be holding anger and resentment towards her. It almost felt like a major narrative choice was taken away when he instantly forgave her.

Also, I really don't see her slapping him. She'd be crushed, not enraged. I definitely think it would be one of the most emotionally devastating choices the game could present.

 

[GamingSavant]

tbh since I started, the "Asshole" trait felt like a slight misnomer, cuz while Edwin definitely gets more rude thoughts and commentary with it, the reality is the Asshole trait makes him more of a sadist, but fully committed to his inner desires instead of trying to hold them back. He smiles like a kid at Christmas when people get sexually abused, uses more derogatory language, etc. Edwin can still be a good person while still being an "Asshole", and that's why I think it's a bit of a misnomer.

 

[Khursheed]

Ok, I'm fine with it causing a rift between MC and Killian, there are a lot of story opportunities there. In fact, considering that MC was the one who kept bullies from bothering Killian, him trying to beat him up would be an interesting thing. Also, the MC could remind him that she's his mother, not Killian, etc etc. Play him really bitter and angry.

I mean, bitter and angry seems to be a big part of it whether you play him nice or mean. And you can also have him choose to watch the videos of her, not for arousal purposes, but seemingly as an obsession. He sees flashes of the things she did in those videos when he looks at the other girls. It makes sense that a more asshole MC would be holding anger and resentment towards her. It almost felt like a major narrative choice was taken away when he instantly forgave her.

Also, I really don't see her slapping him. She'd be crushed, not enraged. I definitely think it would be one of the most emotionally devastating choices the game could present.

This game will never feature incest because the developer don't like it and because incest is against Patreon policy where he is featuring his game, but there will be an older sextape of hers where she will feature in a gangbang and Edwin can jerk off to it like the "sadist" he is. That's because the developer has a very specific thing for moms doing porn, he likes watching mom's getting railed by strangers.

Victoria fulfills some very specific purposes in the story. The primary one being I have a fetish for moms doing porn

 

[GamingSavant]

Edwin doesn't find sexual pleasure in the standard sense when it comes to his mom's porno collection. He doesn't get an erection and he doesn't masturbate; he just watches like it's a sad movie flick. But it's also the catalyst to his mother complex and why Rosalind potentially has such a big pull on him, and also his attraction to older women in general.

 

[Khursheed]

Edwin doesn't find sexual pleasure in the standard sense when it comes to his mom's porno collection. He doesn't get an erection and he doesn't masturbate; he just watches like it's a sad movie flick. But it's also the catalyst to his mother complex and why Rosalind potentially has such a big pull on him, and also his attraction to older women in general.

How can you be sure that he doesn't get an erection and he doesn't masterbate to it? Is there anything in game that confirms this we only know that he watches those videos, takes inspiration from how the guys treated her mother like a rag doll and try to replicate it in his sexual life, especially during that Felicia scene in Elias's office. And some of the Rosalind scenes.

 

[immortalslayer90]

tbh since I started, the "Asshole" trait felt like a slight misnomer, cuz while Edwin definitely gets more rude thoughts and commentary with it, the reality is the Asshole trait makes him more of a sadist, but fully committed to his inner desires instead of trying to hold them back. He smiles like a kid at Christmas when people get sexually abused, uses more derogatory language, etc. Edwin can still be a good person while still being an "Asshole", and that's why I think it's a bit of a misnomer.

Tbh, I didn't specifically even mean the asshole trait. You can play him like an asshole without having that trait. It's more about the choices you make. I think an MC who has shown more anger and such should at least have the option to lash out at the moment or something. When been playing this absolute dickhead the whole game but then he just forgives her immediately, I dunno, it just feels really out of character.

 

[Turret]

Given that Harper and Zara have had them, Hana is clearly familiar with them. Maybe we've found something that Hana's afraid of--and an opportunity to help her face that fear....

It is a possibility what you are saying, but I never was a fan of piercings, so it is nice Hana does not have them. Small piercings ok, can be accepted, but big piercings or some places on the body, no thank you. The great work by TD and GIL is already visible in Hana, since there are quite a number of players who cannot stand tattoos or the degree of how many tattoos Hana has, but still have Hana as a favourite LI.

Edwin doesn't find sexual pleasure in the standard sense when it comes to his mom's porno collection. He doesn't get an erection and he doesn't masturbate; he just watches like it's a sad movie flick.

Hi! That is not quite correct. While there are days when Edwin just sadness binges his Mom´s porn collection, there are also days he strokes the chicken to it.