VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.5 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[TD1900]

I get it that we're toppling oppressive patriarchal God forgive my stupid ass for using big words on the penis forum again view of sex here, but what exactly is the middle ground would mean in this situation? We're not in the dark ages anymore, after E's father was out of the picture it was not expected of V to join the convent to live out her days as celibate and forever faithful to the gone spouse. Porn industry is exploitative of women by definition, horribly so even, scratching an itch by going to those people is like hammering down a nail with a rocket launcher.

When I say "itch to scratch", I don't quite mean her libido. Vicky herself tells Ian that as a beautiful woman, she'd have no problem getting laid. The itch I'm alluding to is whatever inside her head that made doing porn an acceptable and appealing deviation in her life. People often need fast money and those people often enjoy sex, but not everyone chooses to fuck on camera for some quick cash or goes even further to make a short career out of it.

Point was, whatever your opinion on her performing in porn is, whatever led her there... she's *human. That's the middle of the road painfully obvious truism that Edwin often leaves off the table. In his mind, he needs her to be a saint while fearing his natural disgust at what he's seen must otherwise be a total rejection of his mother. It's what he's often reconciling with the help of the Carnation's own situations: Veronica's unwillingness to accept change, Rosalind as a martyr, and Felicia's exhibitionism. (Or so I often ham fist in there.)

*not actually human, but a contrivance of words to satisfy my perverse interest in moms doing porn.

 

[Kameri]

When there are signs of possible mental health issues, but nothing you can definitively prove.

 

[slightchance]

Yeah, i don't see how one would think Edwin has that kind of thoughts and attitude towards sex when he works his ass off to make the girl cum multiple times.

I've zoned out once or twice while having intrusive thoughts. My head was not in the game and my body was on auto mod. You know what to do and how to get them off but you're not doing it for their pleasure. You're not even doing it for yourself. You just do it because it's not the worst thing in the world right now. And maybe you hate them a tiny little bit for getting more out of it than you do.

 

[marcodelamoret]

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Making them all likable is the correct stance from a writing standpoint, but it will make choosing just one to support hard, man. I’m intrigued and downloading the game right now. I will give it a thorough chance, and even if it’s not for me, I won’t turn into another troll terrorizing this thread, dw guys lol.

Okay, finally got the time to start it. Tonight is the night.

 

[Discrepancy]

Okay, finally got the time to start it. Tonight is the night.

I recognize you from the Superhuman Thread, I follow it but not really participate, but noticed you started it recently and really liked it assuming by your Nico signature
Hope you have a similar experience with Pale Carnations as you had with Superhuman

 

[Thrudgelmirator]

when next update

 

[Discrepancy]

when next update

Not soon

 

[fasoaga]

Does our actions change MC's friend? I remember his mom trying to get him into college or something. And is there a developed love route for redhead gym girl? It's been a while since i last played and i don't know if i should start again or wait for the next update.

 

[TD1900]

Does our actions change MC's friend? I remember his mom trying to get him into college or something. And is there a developed love route for redhead gym girl? It's been a while since i last played and i don't know if i should start again or wait for the next update.

1) Yes, depending on how you advise the friend there are small changes through out the story - and it's gonna particularly come to a head over the next few updates due to some big decisions in the recent one.

2) Yes. She's got my personal favorite date scene in the game, actually.

The next update is awhile away, so playing now or later comes down to if you want to wait a middling amount of time for the next update after catching up or have a full dev cycle to wait after finishing.

 

[Jack-O]

when next update

 

[Julius Kingsley]

And I tried to play the nice guy, not using her.. I guess they’re getting used anyway, so I’ll lower my moral standards, lol.

 

[fasoaga]

1) Yes, depending on how you advise the friend there are small changes through out the story - and it's gonna particularly come to a head over the next few updates due to some big decisions in the recent one.

2) Yes. She's got my personal favorite date scene in the game, actually.

The next update is awhile away, so playing now or later comes down to if you want to wait a middling amount of time for the next update after catching up or have a full dev cycle to wait after finishing.

Thanks for the answer. I'm gonna check it out just for the date.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Every girl is a bonafide slut, but the dialogue is great and the characters feel alive. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Discrepancy]

Every girl is a bonafide slut

You say that as if it was a negative

 

[Julius Kingsley]

You say that as if it was a negative

I was just hoping for some balance, to have a (normal?) Romance. Mina looks alright, but stealing her from my best friend isn't really the best start for a relationship. I guess I will have to see with the Hana girl. But the story and characters are great, and that's what I'm mainly here for, so I can't complain much.

 

[Discrepancy]

I was just hoping for some balance, to have a (normal?) Romance. Mina looks alright, but stealing her from my best friend isn't really the best start for a relationship. I guess I will have to see with the Hana girl. But the story and characters are great, and that's what I'm mainly here for, so I can't complain much.

The word slut is a bit loaded, Mina and Hana aren't angels but far from being sluts

 

[TD1900]

I was just hoping for some balance, to have a (normal?) Romance. Mina looks alright, but stealing her from my best friend isn't really the best start for a relationship. I guess I will have to see with the Hana girl. But the story and characters are great, and that's what I'm mainly here for, so I can't complain much.

Hana is why we have like half our fans. She's your girl if you're looking for a normal-adjacent romance.

 

[prpa]

Hana is why we have like half our fans. She's your girl if you're looking for a normal-adjacent romance.

Felicia is the reason for the other half, right?

 

[Julius Kingsley]

The word slut is a bit loaded, Mina and Hana aren't angels but far from being sluts

The word slut, for me personally, mainly refers to girls who don’t care about their bodies and are willing to use them for whatever they want, ready to sleep with any guy. The MC’s mom, for example, I’m not yet sure if she was a pornstar or a prostitute, but she’s not a slut. She did it out of necessity and stopped when it was no longer needed. (From my current perspective)

Felicia, on the other hand, agreeing to sleep with your best friend's boyfriend while she’s sleeping in the other room, that’s a slut.

Hana is why we have like half our fans. She's your girl if you're looking for a normal-adjacent romance.

I'm not mainly looking for that, but yes, it would be a nice and welcome addition.