VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Marcellogo]

To Gaming Savant: surely not Rosie, see you have had a showdown against the Loan Shark in which he just make all certain that Rosie drown in a mountain of debt and the fact that she has a daughter (with the spine-chilling innuendo that they have set their eyes on her, instead than to the mother as a possible debt slave).
In a more general term: with this update we get the revelation about the real power and reach of the Carnation Club itself and above all of its total DIABOLICAL nature.
This is not just an upscale brothel with a wholesale clientele, its membership is the real centre of actual power and evil in a vaste region.
And Chuck, Chuck is its real pinpoint.
The bad dreams of the MC are just a faint shadow of the sheer evil trap and corruttive potential they have revealed toward Elias (and Hana).

 

[MagicMan753]

Isn’t it just Rosie? The others are just selfish.

I don't think Veronica is selfish, she just wants to save her gym, after unknowingly getting screwed over. Felicia is definitely the most selfish one for being there, but you can kind of see her side of things in a way. So I wouldn't just say Rosie is more legit or the only non selfish.

 

[HDussen]

Felicia is definitely the most selfish one for being there, but you can kind of see her side of things in a way.

Gotta disagree with you there. As I have argued before, if Felicia's plan succeeds it has the potential to improve the lives of a great number of people. The event that triggered her into seeking her own power base was her husband's refusal to use what for him is behind-the-sofa-cushions spare cash to save the art school. So while on the surface it seems like she is just there for the most egotistical and frivolous reasons, with no negative consequences for not winning (before Kath decides to torpedo that, of course), she is the contestant with the least selfish reasons for being there.

 

[X2JZcf]

So, from a perspective of the greatest good to the greatest number of people and the least harm to the least number of people, picking Felicia as winner is clearly the best choice, as things stand.

Gotta disagree with you there. As I have argued before, if Felicia's plan succeeds it has the potential to improve the lives of a great number of people. The event that triggered her into seeking her own power base was her husband's refusal to use what for him is behind-the-sofa-cushions spare cash to save the art school. So while on the surface it seems like she is just there for the most egotistical and frivolous reasons, with no negative consequences for not winning (before Kath decides to torpedo that, of course), she is the contestant with the least selfish reasons for being there.

How easily is it to sell Rosie for the greater good. I love this way of thinking Edwin should start building his own zoo.

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[Darreau91]

Which girl did you guys chose on the orgy? I like Sophia but I had to chose Allison, she's too hot

Sophia since she provided the drugs. Choosing Allison’s dress wasn’t an option because it’s what made her pop out along with the hair. Coke is a helluva a drug as they. Also felt a little dirty having Edwin pork the same chick Felicia’s husband was on a date with. Edwin shall not double dip the Eskimo bro pool in my play through.

 

[bZokko1]

and felicia

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How do you get this scene? Didn't see it in any of my plays.

 

[X2JZcf]

How do you get this scene? Didn't see it in any of my plays.

Listen in on the conversation when Elias calls Felicia, not chatting with Allison.

 

[bZokko1]

Listen in on the conversation when Elias calls Felicia, not chatting with Allison.

Ah, fair enough. Picked Allison, and putting her in place felt so satisfying and right so I stuck to it on rest of the saves. Could have deviated on faithful Hana BF route ofc. ^^

 

[BlenderGuy]

Do I actually have to download the entire game to play the latest update if I don't have previous saves?

 

[Machete]

Do I actually have to download the entire game to play the latest update if I don't have previous saves?

Yes. Unfortunately no other dev picked up the very smart idea from House is Where the Heart Is to give the option to start playing from any chapter of the game with any combination of previous relevant choices.
That's quite a feature.

 

[Machete]

Now, having lost my previous saves folders i'm replaying the game from the start. It will take patience but it's also a good story to recap.

But i suddenly had a curiosity. Who's this statue meant to represent, if anyone in particular?

It looks like a sort of greek divinity with strong oriental (in the ancient meaning of the term, let's say, middle eastern) influences.

Might it be Selene, given that she's olding a moon crescent? Is it ever mentioned in the game? Any speculation?

 

[pinuz1]

What path do you get this render?

You get it early in this update, when she messages you in the morning while she's bored, and Edwin pictures her as a cat seeking attention.

I'm guessing you need to be very into the Veronica path in general, tho I'm not 100% sure what exactly you need to do to trigger the morning conversation, I'm guessing having hugged her during the second exhibition, which triggers the friends route, and later on you can fuck with her in the date, depending on what you did during Hana's party the text changes a little bit too.

Which girl did you guys chose on the orgy? I like Sophia but I had to chose Allison, she's too hot

I've been waiting too long to fuck Sophia, there was no way in hell I was choosing Allison over her, also I doubt Allison will be too important in the story moving forward, while I imagine this won't be the only time Sophia will get intimate with the MC.

The thing with Allison actually got me thinking, and possibly there to make the player in general think: have any of the carnations been altogether truthful? Is one of the sob stories potentially fake? You know, we don't see Rose's daughter once, with the excuse that she sent her to camp while she endures the month of hell, but what if there's more going on?

Makes you wonder...

Nah no way, this time we are the one in charge of the 3 carnations, there's no way any of them could be faking it, we work too closely with them, we've seen how Rose has to deal with loan sharks, we've seen her have a phone conversation with her daughter, we've seen pretty much everything about Veronica's life up close, and Felicia isn't hiding anything either (at least from us).

 

[Meiri]

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Now, having lost my previous saves folders i'm replaying the game from the start. It will take patience but it's also a good story to recap.

But i suddenly had a curiosity. Who's this statue meant to represent, if anyone in particular?

It looks like a sort of greek divinity with strong oriental (in the ancient meaning of the term, let's say, middle eastern) influences.

Might it be Selene, given that she's olding a moon crescent? Is it ever mentioned in the game? Any speculation?

That asset is taken / inspired from Skyrim and that's Azura the draedric prince of dawn and dusk:



I don't think they ever mentioned that statue ingame, I believe it's only used as decoration and nothing else.

 

[Machete]

That asset is taken / inspired from Skyrim and that's Azura the draedric prince of dawn and dusk:

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I don't think they ever mentioned that statue ingame, I believe it's only used as decoration and nothing else.

Nice! Thank you for the clarification
I've played Skyrim many years ago, but i was never really bought into Elder Scrolls lore, even if i played Morrowind so long ago and Daggerfall in my long lost youth, so i would never have recognized it.

Damn, i think Daggerfall was the game i've hated the most in my life. Not that it was bad by any means. It had its problems but back in the days it was something never seen before. Just it had random generated dungeons (as far as i know) and one of those was unsolvable in the main quest, so i had to give up midgame after many hours.

 

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[Turret]

For Rosie, it’s over, unless Hana or Edwin makes a buyback.

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Given what we learn about the Club this update, for Rosi it was over the moment she started as a Carnation. Do you really believe Kath would let her go, no matter how Oliver´s fate was decided?

Which girl did you guys chose on the orgy? I like Sophia but I had to chose Allison, she's too hot

Sophia naturally But even if I were not the maybe official leader of the Sophia faction, I would have chosen her during the orgy.
Allison is a symbolic stand-in for the Club and everything that is wrong with it. Chosing her is a step towards accepting the Club andit´s doings. Going towards corruption, depravity and evil.
Sophia is a symbolic stand-in for the twilight grey path. She opposes the Club and what it stands for valiantly, but she is also a person for whom the ends justify the means. Sophia is one of the few spots of light in the club, even if hers has some dark schlieren as well.
The "white" path would be to not participate in the orgy at all.

 

[spodermen]

"Guess what MC, we're going to have a baby!"
"*Gasp* You're pregnant!"
"No."
"Then how are we going to-"
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wait, THAT HAPPENS?

 

[X2JZcf]

Given what we learn about the Club this update, for Rosi it was over the moment she started as a Carnation. Do you really believe Kath would let her go, no matter how Oliver´s fate was decided?

Since it’s over for Felicia too, and given that Samson has no intention of really helping Veronica, it’s over over. The Devil’s promise, just as it is.

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[Discrepancy]

Sophia naturally But even if I were not the maybe official leader of the Sophia faction, I would have chosen her during the orgy.
Allison is a symbolic stand-in for the Club and everything that is wrong with it. Chosing her is a step towards accepting the Club andit´s doings. Going towards corruption, depravity and evil.
Sophia is a symbolic stand-in for the twilight grey path. She opposes the Club and what it stands for valiantly, but she is also a person for whom the ends justify the means. Sophia is one of the few spots of light in the club, even if hers has some dark schlieren as well.
The "white" path would be to not participate in the orgy at all.

When I made that question, I thought about making a note, that I didn't needed Turret to answer it cause I know you would choose Sophia
Thanks for the reply though