UmbralKnight

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I think you underestimate the situation under which Edwin "folds", according to you. Kath made it clear early in the evening that she wants no or abides no kind of distraction of the "main event". Coupled with the fact that we learn a lot more about the VIP club behind the facade and what can happen if you cross them, is surely a fence post telling you to put your family troubles on the backburner until the day is over.
Our hero is no dummy.
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I was referring to "Ian" folding not Edwin
while your point about them standing up to kathy makes sense but even within this dialogue
if you picked the non "revenge" option Ian actually stands up to kathy or atleast tries to

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what does this mean idk ?
Idk

but Ian in the past has stood upto Kathy in few occasions
so him suddenly folding after talking about getting revenge on his own mother seems weird
 
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I was referring to "Ian" folding not Edwin
while your point about them standing up to kathy makes sense but even within this dialogue
if you picked the non "revenge" option Ian actually stands up to kathy or atleast tries to

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what does this mean idk ?
Idk

but Ian in the past has stood upto Kathy in few occasions
so him suddenly folding after talking about getting revenge on his own mother seems weird
Hi again!
Be it Edwin or Ian, I think we agree that both of them not raising a fuss with Kath and "folding" quickly, is the wiser decision under the circumstances. :) The problem with Grace´s blackmail attempt will come into focus again after the Carnation weekend is over. Grace, Chuck and Kath have to fall, that cannot be planned between door and hinges.
 
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Darreau91

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Hi!
I would and do, since the times of the must be lilywhite heroes is well in the past. For those playing Edwin like a white or grey hat, he is something of a hero. Naturally those playing him like as a... do not have a hero Edwin. Antihero at best.
:sneaky: Edwin Wolfgang having standing sex with the mad glitchy flesh light genius that is in the process of creating the male date rape perfume is hardly what one would call a heroic act... Even Wolfgang's dick head was in a moral contemplation hide and seek during that scene because its shame was on the verge of bursting.
 

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:sneaky: Edwin Wolfgang having standing sex with the mad glitchy flesh light genius that is in the process of creating the male date rape perfume is hardly what one would call a heroic act... Even Wolfgang's dick head was in a moral contemplation hide and seek during that scene because its shame was on the verge of bursting.
Hi!
We definitely need a headshake emoji among the reactions.;) You will see that our hero and Sophia will save Morehead Hills and the state from the club Kath and Chuck created!:)
 
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The other is Lucy's
For Lucy, you need to have kissed her at Felicia's Art Exhibition date, and then at the end of the free roam, talk to her and sit with her. This will end the free roam.

For the two Kathleen scenes:
You need to seek advice from Kathleen after the second exhibition, and then later on, the "Progress through the story" scene comes up (as long as you choose to give it your all). For the second scene, at the end of the free roam at the end of the new update, you'll see Kathleen in the lobby with the police commissioner. Choose to catch the tiger by the tail. Just keep in mind that you cannot get the scenes with Hana/Lucy/Felicia during the free roam, as they, along with the scene with Kathleen, are exclusive and will end the free roam. Important to note that you need to have the first scene to unlock the second.
 

ename144

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I was hoping the catharsis was Edwin putting Vicky to bed without it needing to be said. They all hug, cry, and Edwin reassures his mother that no matter what he loves her. Leaving it unsaid there emphasizes that point, and when they pick up where they left off the next morning, it's like the feeling after a good cry. Post-catharsis. Awkward, but more level-headed.
I'd say the MC putting his mom to bed was partially cathartic, but only partially given that the issue was clearly unresolved - both for the character (what had driven his mom to her drunken near-confession) and for the player (how did Chuck fit into the narrative).

Personally the partial resolution did enough to defuse the situation that the intervening scenes with Veronica and Sophia in Update 6 built anticipation back up rather than being an unwelcome intrusion (the Mina/Hana tease in Update 5 was more along those lines in my book). But I can see where others might like those scenes less, and I'm glad the game didn't delay talking to Victoria any longer.


I could see Ian's reaction feel a bit surprising/contradictory considering that he had already stood up to Kathleen when she wanted to record the fake porn video with Edwin and Rose if you choose to have him refuse initially and that was a much more daring moment since it was in the middle of an exhibition, so it's strange but you could chalk it up to him still dealing with the aftermath of both, finding the lenghts his biological mother would go to control him, and, ALSO finding out that his surrogate and best friend's mother was a porn actress which he sees and has been conditioned to see in a less than favuoringly manner let's just say.

Anyways It has taken me quite a while to catch up with the thread and to play most of the update (I'm still missing 2 scenes) , and although I do not share exactly the same gripes with the update as UmbralKnight , it still left me with conflicted feelings leaning more towards being the first update of the game to leave me unsatisfied for some reason I'm still trying to put into words. It's a damn shame because it's the biggest update yet and the quality I still believe is as good as ever but for some strange resason it was the first time the game didn't leave me with a feeling of wanting more.

It's partly the reason why I didn't bother to write my experience with the update this time because I think most of the things I like where already expressed and the problems I have with it are mostly if not all subjective so I didn't see the point.

Regardless, I still enjoyed it and all the work put into it can be seen by any player so kudos to the devs!
I think I felt something similar. In my review I attributed it to a sense that we didn't really get to serve in our usual role as angel/devil on the MC's shoulder. We got to decide how he spent his time at various points, but there was very little pontificating about the larger implications of those choices or even the increasingly outrageous environment in which he made them. The result was sometimes interesting and definitely well crafted, but it wasn't much fun for me.

That may just be my tastes clashing with the needs of the story at this point. The more I think about it, though, the more I wonder how much this was compounded by the event being cut in half. There are some clear payoffs that are left hanging (Hana's 'date,' for example), so it's possible things like Dalia taking the bullet for us, buddying up to Elias (surprisingly hard to do, BTW!), or asking WTF is going on with Sophia will likewise be revisited in Update 7 in a way that feels more consequential.

Maybe the idea was to lay out the facts without comment, THEN let the MC draw conclusion and act on them as the night reached a crescendo. If so, I think the idea suffered a bit by postponing the climax; something should have been added to foreshadow the eventual reckonings. But this is pure speculation on my part and I don't want to jump to any conclusions before we've seen how the second half plays out. So we'll just have to wait and see.
 

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Here’s hoping it’s the start of a proper romance path with her
So, you hope this game gets completed in 2040, I guess.

Do you realise that it took them almost 1 year for this half-a-day update and the story still has to cover 1 exhibition night, 1 sunday, the whole final week, 1 final exhibition day and the epilogue?

AND still some of you guys push and ask for more side routes and whole paths involving side characters!?!

Seriously...
 
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In terms of romance she's a side girl, on par with Sophia. There are 5 main girls
Is she not? She very much looks like a Mg to me. Even if she is not use as a poster girl like the other 5 and is a bit peculiar and unique as LI in an Avns.

Sophia doesn't have her own gallery page. Kathleen does.
And a stats page in the menu with the other MGs.
 
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dolfe67

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Sophia doesn't have her own gallery page. Kathleen does.
I'm sure she will get it eventually

Is she not? She very much looks like a Mg to me. Even if she is not use as a poster girl like the other 5 and is a bit peculiar and unique as LI in an Avns.
She has been demoted. She didn't appear on the last

She appears on the
 
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