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I'd say the MC putting his mom to bed was partially cathartic, but only partially given that the issue was clearly unresolved - both for the character (what had driven his mom to her drunken near-confession) and for the player (how did Chuck fit into the narrative).
Personally the partial resolution did enough to defuse the situation that the intervening scenes with Veronica and Sophia in Update 6 built anticipation back up rather than being an unwelcome intrusion (the Mina/Hana tease in Update 5 was more along those lines in my book). But I can see where others might like those scenes less, and I'm glad the game didn't delay talking to Victoria any longer.
I think I felt something similar. In my review I attributed it to a sense that we didn't really get to serve in our usual role as angel/devil on the MC's shoulder. We got to decide how he spent his time at various points, but there was very little pontificating about the larger implications of those choices or even the increasingly outrageous environment in which he made them. The result was sometimes interesting and definitely well crafted, but it wasn't much fun for me.
That may just be my tastes clashing with the needs of the story at this point. The more I think about it, though, the more I wonder how much this was compounded by the event being cut in half. There are some clear payoffs that are left hanging (Hana's 'date,' for example), so it's possible things like Dalia taking the bullet for us, buddying up to Elias (surprisingly hard to do, BTW!), or asking WTF is going on with Sophia will likewise be revisited in Update 7 in a way that feels more consequential.
Maybe the idea was to lay out the facts without comment, THEN let the MC draw conclusion and act on them as the night reached a crescendo. If so, I think the idea suffered a bit by postponing the climax; something should have been added to foreshadow the eventual reckonings. But this is pure speculation on my part and I don't want to jump to any conclusions before we've seen how the second half plays out. So we'll just have to wait and see.
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So, you hope this game gets completed in 2040, I guess.
Do you realise that it took them almost 1 year for this half-a-day update and the story still has to cover 1 exhibition night, 1 sunday, the whole final week, 1 final exhibition day and the epilogue?
AND still some of you guys push and ask for more side routes and whole paths involving side characters!?!
Seriously...
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With Lucy? I don't think that's ever going to happen, just enjoy whatever scenes we get.
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They were talking about Kathleen, who is not a side character.
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In terms of romance she's a side girl, on par with Sophia. There are 5 main girls
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Sophia doesn't have her own gallery page. Kathleen does.
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Is she not? She very much looks like a Mg to me. Even if she is not use as a poster girl like the other 5 and is a bit peculiar and unique as LI in an Avns.
And a stats page in the menu with the other MGs.
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I'm sure she will get it eventually
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Oh it's locked for non-patrons, sorry XD
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Hopefully one of the devs could give us some clarification
Would be a shame if she is only considered a side girl since I think she offers something completely different story wise to the other main characters
Would be a shame if she is only considered a side girl since I think she offers something completely different story wise to the other main characters
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Who Katheleen?
She is a main character in the story and a secondary character, if we consider the sexual or the romantic point of view.
Why is everyone acting the like victoria/edwin/grace/chuck stuff is already over? Or that "a breakfast" solved everything? Did you guys miss the big emotional choice at the end of the last update when (after seeing his mom crying at the thought of telling him) Edwin decides to "start resolving" this on a personal level? Or was the breakfast so good it changed his behavoir before he ate it? or did you all make edwin sacrafice just so you got a blurry scene
Doesnt the scene of Victoria confessing end with edwin wondering how Grace even knows? Something which will lead him to a similar level of realization that introspective Ian had about Grace? IE Someone who has been a large part of their life (bonus points for neither Victoria nor chuck being a "direct real parent" to Ian/Edwin)?
I dont really get what people wanted? Victoria cant just lore dump her time as a porn actress on Edwin/Ian, not only because literally telling her "two sons" the dirty details she did in porn is a bit hard to admit (and 50% chance Edwin no longer "wants" to hear it) but because if she did there would be no way in hell Edwin (maybe even Ian) would not realize that "someone local with a connection to all of the following: the local porn industry, victora, and grace? that someone has also been in contact with both victoria and grace for the last decade+ or so?"
Ever since it was 100% confirmed that Chuck was directly involved I always assumed it would be playing a bigger role in the "final choice"/"stay or leave the club" than anything before that choice. Like do you really think Edwin would casually go to the exhibition THE SAME NIGHT where chuck who lied to him (and ian), manipulated Victoria (or whatever makes them have a negative realationship), all of which has been going on for literal years? and then continue to be "normal club mode" until we get the choice to stay or go? Im pretty sure its easier to beat an old mans ass than it is to beat him in a game of squash
Edit: I would get the response more if Victoria had made the decsion herself but since Grace forced her (and she then told the boys) I dont really see how she could be fully honest without flipping the entire staus quo on its head, Ian already broke down in tears and asked if there was something wrong with him, imagine that + it wasnt only his cunty mom but also his uncle who has looked up to and likely "loved"/learned from way more? Dude would have been catatonic he cant "just switch it off" like Edwin does
Doesnt the scene of Victoria confessing end with edwin wondering how Grace even knows? Something which will lead him to a similar level of realization that introspective Ian had about Grace? IE Someone who has been a large part of their life (bonus points for neither Victoria nor chuck being a "direct real parent" to Ian/Edwin)?
I dont really get what people wanted? Victoria cant just lore dump her time as a porn actress on Edwin/Ian, not only because literally telling her "two sons" the dirty details she did in porn is a bit hard to admit (and 50% chance Edwin no longer "wants" to hear it) but because if she did there would be no way in hell Edwin (maybe even Ian) would not realize that "someone local with a connection to all of the following: the local porn industry, victora, and grace? that someone has also been in contact with both victoria and grace for the last decade+ or so?"
Ever since it was 100% confirmed that Chuck was directly involved I always assumed it would be playing a bigger role in the "final choice"/"stay or leave the club" than anything before that choice. Like do you really think Edwin would casually go to the exhibition THE SAME NIGHT where chuck who lied to him (and ian), manipulated Victoria (or whatever makes them have a negative realationship), all of which has been going on for literal years? and then continue to be "normal club mode" until we get the choice to stay or go? Im pretty sure its easier to beat an old mans ass than it is to beat him in a game of squash
Edit: I would get the response more if Victoria had made the decsion herself but since Grace forced her (and she then told the boys) I dont really see how she could be fully honest without flipping the entire staus quo on its head, Ian already broke down in tears and asked if there was something wrong with him, imagine that + it wasnt only his cunty mom but also his uncle who has looked up to and likely "loved"/learned from way more? Dude would have been catatonic he cant "just switch it off" like Edwin does
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Just a small clarification, it doesn't strictly need to be kissing. Edwin who chose to molest Lucy can have the scene with her in the latest update, too.
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Yea I'm sorry but I disagree with this, I feel like in this situation Edwin would take some time to think before acting, he had just woken up, it makes sense he would at least do his morning routine first, also the text chat not only took probably less than 5-15 minutes but it's also better for the pacing of the update imo, it's a lighthearted moment of calm, he chats with Veronica and it also helps him make up his mind on what he has to do.
The Sophia visit is fine too, there would be no other moment in the update to fit this scene, and again, it's not like it was too long either, so I don't see the issue. This is ofc just my opinion.
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Just go into this game - have my doubts on the tone of the game, but it's surprisingly wholesome
Mina, Hana are absolute fire. And for side girls Sophia is just ridiculous and the actress Alice..something (can't think of her name now) scene had me like
bonus, no ntr nonsense. Such an incredible game.
Mina, Hana are absolute fire. And for side girls Sophia is just ridiculous and the actress Alice..something (can't think of her name now) scene had me like
bonus, no ntr nonsense. Such an incredible game.
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let's walk through the sequence of events
after going through a LOT the night before the MC (Edwin) wakes up having a nice dream about his father and what does he do after a bit of morning self reflection ?
he checks his phone and he sees that he got a text message from ronnie checking in if he is ok after she saw him leave early the day before
this is great stuff but you will notice something - edwin doesn't immediately text back ronnie
instead he is concerned about his mother and the aftermath of last nights events
he promptly gives his mother a call and she doesn't pick it up
so far so good
the flow of events matches something someone would do in that situation
but then things begin to turn almost immediately
instead of calling Ian next like he did with his mother (the most logical outcome)
he instead starts doom scrolling in his phone and starts reading film reviews
i know that we all react differently in such stressful situations and maybe he needed to spend some time doing something "mundane" to keep his mind off from last nights events
and only then he starts texting ronnie and after that he finally decides to call ian and ask for his help consoling his mother
see now do you get what i mean?
somethings always take a higher priority over other things especially when it's already well established by now much edwin loves his mother
so i found it weird and frustrating that he gives up and starts doom scrolling after Vicky didn't pick up the phone and only to finally realise what he meant to do and then he asks for ians help
I loved that Veronica was the only LI who not only noticed edwin leaving early but also cared enough to check up on him
all of this is great but he spends time unnecessarily doomscrooling film reviews about some D grade film when he has better things to do
i know that sometimes when you're going through a lot even having a mundane conversation with someone you like/love can lift up the mood
again from a plotline PoV there is nothing wrong with the texting scene
plus Ronnie knows about Edwins mother did some sort of sex work (he told her during their date) so it would have been ok even if he had told Ronnie what's happening with him and his mother
so let's go through these events again but let's rearrange the chronological sequence of events a bit different and see which one of them gives you that emotional depth
Edwin wakes up after having a dream about his father, checks his phone sees that he has a message from ronnie
he ignores it (for now) , tries calling his mother first
she doesn't pick the call so he immediately checks up on ian
ians agrees agrees with edwin to meet Vicky says he will be there in a few minutes to pick him up (remember edwin still can't drive) while waiting he texts Ronnie ,maybe even tells her all about and then sophie ends up at his door unannounced says she wants to apologise again edwin here is in a bit of hurry but ian isn't still here so he hears her out then sends her away ASAP and then both Ian and edwin make it to their mother house and rest of the events transpires as it is
see the difference between both versions?
the content in both are the same yet the emotional depth is very different
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You are aware a good portion of what you typed should be using "if" not "when" right? Because they are player choice? Ian does not even have to be there and you are given 2 choices between this and the last update (not telling him she did porn, not inviting him to the morning discussion iirc) with that in mind does the current structure make sense?