VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[helo138]

One ingame week is left.

1 ingame week ~ 5 real life years

 

[Turret]

Damn Sophia and her drugs. Damn the evil side chick.

You will see one day that Sophia gives the world a new energy drink and Super-Viagra. And she is simply pragmatic when she gives the club her "fun stuff", it furthers her plans for the club and ingratiates. As Sophia correctly observed, the VIP club members would be decadent and behaving like animals with and without her inventions. So you gain at least additional testing info by supplying them the Viagra plus.

You really like to antagonize Turret don't you?

He tries, but he doesn´t succeed. He is so over the top with his hate for Sophia that I can´t take it seriously. Still so, I will enjoy the Sophia arc as it unfolds, knowing it is driving Darreau nuts that she is one of the most important characters in the game now.
As I mentioned many times before, there should be an ending with those two nerdy eccentrics together and a little Sophia/Edwin running around them. I hope such an ending will come.

 

[Rem is the best]

Mina showing sign of jealousy is balanced by the kiss scene. She literally admits that she doesn't know if she was more jealous of Edwin or Hana. Wouldn't be the best way to resolve said jealousy to date both of them at the same time ?


On the contrary I think the very existence of a previous instance means that there is a chance of getting a throuple in the end. For my arguments about that, refer to my previous message. A previously failed attempt set a precedent, and pave the way to a second attempt, but with different circumstances and characters to prevent the failure this time.


Refer to my answer above. I still don't understand why a throuple ending would be a bad one. You seem to think that the concept of a throuple means being a jerk or completely corrupted, which I don't understand. Again, the possibility of a Mina/Hana/Edwin throuple would most likely depends on variables and choices with Mina and Hana. I don't see why it should be a bad ending.

As for jealousy, it could be part of the process. There is jealousy now, but Mina offered a solution to this jealousy. If the three of them are together, then there's no reason to be jealous anymore as long as they all learn to share their time equally. Also there's a great way for it to last: by ending the game. We're probably not gonna follow up for decades after the story. Just give the players a throuple ending, and then the end. Let the player choose if it lasts or not, who cares, the game will be over anyway. I'll make it last a century, don't worry about that.


Hana didn't want to fuck Edwin at the beginning of the game either. Characters evolve, relationships evolve. Hana might accept an "exclusive" throuple, where she doesn't want Mina and Edwin fucking other people. It is consistant with all the characters. Mina is attracted to both, Hana is attracted to both, Edwin is attracted to both. They all like each other (given the right choices of course), so why not long-term stuff ? Because you guys decided a throuple can't ever work for some reason ? Well, I think it's possible, and even likely.

And I will die on that hill, damn it.

We will die on this hill together

 

[Discrepancy]

We will die on this hill together

Don't want to reignite the throuple discussion, but if a throuple will happen in the future/end, I doubt the path for it to happen is being Hana boyfriend and cheating on her with Mina, the path would be fuck buddies with both and then the offical throuple will happen (whatever that even means).

 

[UmbralKnight]

Who's talking about incest? They're mimicking a casting where they'll play the role of the sleazy porn producer trying to bait the soon to be porn actresses (the carnations). Who of the trio plays the nervous newbie the best before they all point their gaped assholes into the camera in the end wins a point. Or something like that. At least that's what I would have done with the scene. Or something like that.

ok but
what did she mean by "Let them believe they're going to have a real audition. They should have realized by now how much our games can creep into their lives"

this is week three of the carnation games so both the girls and the patrons are already fully committed to the act
so what exactly is this new "real audition" for ?
they're all already part of the games and how does this audition tie into their lives ?

the incest thing is just entirely speculative
since we already know that there is going to be no actual content with Victoria and the MC
this is just a unique scenario where all those people who were desperately asking for some Victoria content with the MC can finally get it
and since it's all part of kathleens LARP
It doesn't break any rules (atleast in theory)

The mom role play is already in the game so if patreon wants to drop the ban hammer they already have the excuse even if its flimsy.

well technically in that RP scene with rose

the visuals might show MC and Rose "doing" the act while engaging in some word RP and name calling it's still just MC and Rose doing it and everyone is VERY aware of the LARPy nature of it
It was almost like watching a play

but what i suggested is very VISUALLY different
something we have already had a glimpse once
when rose comes to the MCs appartment to convince him to help her
if they both have sex MC suddenly gets flashes of Victoria having sex during a prono for a few moments in his mind while they're doing it and it even almost stops him from having sex with rose for a while

so if kathleen recreates one of Vicky's old pornos with MC and Rose
it's only going to trigger all those repressed memories even further
and if Kathleen drugs the MC or maybe dresses up rose to look "visually" look like victoria
it would all still be an elaborate make believe LARP

so in this scenario even if MC has "sex" with this lookalike victoria and the entire scene was visually shown them doing it

it shouldn't in theory break any rules since
it's just a "fake" victoria (rose) having sex with the MC
and that's why I said it would be like that scene from tropic thunder
"a dude playing a dude who is another dude"

so even though it's not technically "incest"
this should satisfy all those people who desperately keep asking for scenes with Victoria and MC

plus it could be a good learning moment for the MC to show
the fact that Kathleen loves to mess around the personal past lives of not only the carnations but him too

One ingame week is left.

it's kind of weird that so much has happened yet in the Ingame universe it's not even a month yet since MC joined the club and he is still a pre med who still hasn't even completed his exams yet
epilogue time skip must be crazy trying to compress years worth of content flash forwarded and condensed into a few frames and slides

 

[Rem is the best]

Don't want to reignite the throuple discussion, but if a throuple will happen in the future/end, I doubt the path for it to happen is being Hana boyfriend and cheating on her with Mina, the path would be fuck buddies with both and then the offical throuple will happen (whatever that even means).

After i readed the discussion i think its pointless to argue so imma just say
I had my own opinion and You had your own opinion and i respected it
Just wait to see how the story goes

 

[slightchance]

what did she mean by "Let them believe they're going to have a real audition. They should have realized by now how much our games can creep into their lives"

When I see a preview I put my own spin on it. For fun. That's all there is to it. What ends up in the game is usually more tame, especially since the previews don't show any plot twists. Victoria's audition tape doesn't come up here. I've put it in there for cheap laughs.

 

[dexterousgecko]

I need to know, how do I get some sweet Hana/Mina/MC action? It's really all I want

 

[Discrepancy]

I need to know, how do I get some sweet Hana/Mina/MC action? It's really all I want

You can't, not yet

 

[dexterousgecko]

You can't, not yet

I can't cheat on my girls, but they're both so incredible.

 

[UmbralKnight]

When I see a preview I put my own spin on it. For fun. That's all there is to it. What ends up in the game is usually more tame, especially since the previews don't show any plot twists. Victoria's audition tape doesn't come up here. I've put it in there for cheap laughs.

nothing wrong with a little speculation or theory crafting
not much to do until the next update drops

 

[WeAreChecking]

How many sharing or swinging scenes does this VN have? And which Lis have those scenes?

 

[Turret]

How many sharing or swinging scenes does this VN have? And which Lis have those scenes?

That depends on how you count scripted sharing/swinging scenes, like the "present" with Dalia, Lucy and Co Kath can give you early in the game. There are several of these events in the game, most prominently so far with Rosi, Felicia and Mina in them.
But remember that most, if not all, of these scenes impact the love routes, where you loose chances if they would occur in parallel. e.g. The Feli/Mina/MC swing event hurts the Felicia romance route, because you loose the chance to gain some rarely awarded points with her.

 

[Discrepancy]

How many sharing or swinging scenes does this VN have? And which Lis have those scenes?

That depends on how you count scripted sharing/swinging scenes, like the "present" with Dalia, Lucy and Co Kath can give you early in the game. There are several of these events in the game, most prominently so far with Rosi, Felicia and Mina in them.
But remember that most, if not all, of these scenes impact the love routes, where you loose chances if they would occur in parallel. e.g. The Feli/Mina/MC swing event hurts the Felicia romance route, because you loose the chance to gain some rarely awarded points with her.

In my view of those terms I would even say there's no swinging or sharing scenes.
Swinging is if you're on a relationship with someone and exchange your partner for sex with a partner of another couple.
Sharing is sharing your partner with someone else, and only Hana can be in a serious relationship with Edwin atm and you can't share her with anyone.
I might be wrong though but that's how I see those terms.

 

[FRVN]

In my view of those terms I would even say there's no swinging or sharing scenes.
Swinging is if you're on a relationship with someone and exchange your partner for sex with a partner of another couple.
Sharing is sharing your partner with someone else, and only Hana can be in a serious relationship with Edwin atm and you can't share her with anyone.
I might be wrong though but that's how I see those terms.

I agree with you. There's no swinging or sharing in the game, but in a looser definition of sharing (the player can choose to let a love interest have sex with someone else), there's Rosalind (threesome with Ian and porn shoot with Ian), Mina/Felicia (can choose to let them fool around or stop them during their threesome scene), Mina/Veronica (can push them together), and Veronica (can be her wingman). There are other times where a love interest (main girls and side girls) has sex with someone other than Edwin, but the player doesn't have a choice, so I didn't include them.

 

[bonerland]

I agree with you. There's no swinging or sharing in the game, but in a looser definition of sharing (the player can choose to let a love interest have sex with someone else), there's Rosalind (threesome with Ian and porn shoot with Ian) and Mina/Felicia (can choose to let them fool around or stop them during their threesome scene). There are other times where a love interest (main girls and side girls) has sex with someone other than Edwin, but the player doesn't have a choice, so I didn't include them.

I'd say setting Veronica up with Mina and her offering to have a threesome later and the aft forementioned Felicia/Mina threesome would count as sharing, since it's the two LI's offering to bring a third in.

 

[FRVN]

I'd say setting Veronica up with Mina and her offering to have a threesome later and the aft forementioned Felicia/Mina threesome would count as sharing, since it's the two LI's offering to bring a third in.

I edited it to add that and being her wingman because I forgot about those until I hit post.

 

[Discrepancy]

I agree with you. There's no swinging or sharing in the game, but in a looser definition of sharing (the player can choose to let a love interest have sex with someone else), there's Rosalind (threesome with Ian and porn shoot with Ian), Mina/Felicia (can choose to let them fool around or stop them during their threesome scene), Mina/Veronica (can push them together), and Veronica (can be her wingman). There are other times where a love interest (main girls and side girls) has sex with someone other than Edwin, but the player doesn't have a choice, so I didn't include them.

I'd say setting Veronica up with Mina and her offering to have a threesome later and the aft forementioned Felicia/Mina threesome would count as sharing, since it's the two LI's offering to bring a third in.

I confess I din't even considered the threesomes as sharing, but you guys are right they should count, especially the Edwin, Rosalind and Ian. From experience the people asking about Sharing are most interested/worried about the"sharing" topic when another male is involved not females

 

[Turret]

In my view of those terms I would even say there's no swinging or sharing scenes.
Swinging is if you're on a relationship with someone and exchange your partner for sex with a partner of another couple.
Sharing is sharing your partner with someone else, and only Hana can be in a serious relationship with Edwin atm and you can't share her with anyone.
I might be wrong though but that's how I see those terms.

Generally I agree with you that PC has no literal swinging/sharing scenes (except Rosi/Ian/MC) so far. But if we apply looser restrictions on the definition than the scenes I mentioned would count. And since we are a varied lot of perverts here in our cosy den of depravity that is F95, there are players for whom the looser sharing/swinging definition and the resulting scenes are fully ok.

 

[Halsy]

Having a friendly relation with the carnations is probably better than sexual relation. You can learn more about them that way.