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What's your least favorite moment in Pale Carnation?
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In a headcanon/logic sense getting on kathleens good side would make the carnations dislike you but in practice you can get high Kathleen scores (above 20 iirc as well as 7 Warren points) while still having all the carnations (and hana/mina) at almost max (1 or 2 points below max so way more than any checks have asked for).
Edit: the game clearly plans for this as well as there is (a couple of lines) of dialog for stuff like having pissed on Veronica (only the "bad people" in the club give points and all carnations lose them) but being her friend after.
I wonder if you'll change your mind after playing the other two's paths.
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Maybe, but this is primarily from a base character standard. Rosalind is a flawed character who is finding support from someone 14 years her junior. I still like the other two just fine, but the method of approaching Rosalind (kindness or manipulation and love vs lust) and her situation in general gives her more appeal to me.
As pinuz1 said so well in his post, unlike some other games where our MC is a blank slate, here we have a MC with some background. Ian is dwins best friend by far. He never had been bad to him, on the contrary, Killian would probably take the literal bullet for Edwin. Also some flashbacks and dialog shows that Ian was not always the ass to women he is now. This all began to get traction since "good, old" Uncle Chuck got major influence on Ian. And Grace being a Mom in name only did not help either.
If paying back something for Ian´s friendship is helping him get his north again, is a no-brainer!
Mina grew on my Edwin very fast and I tried to help them. I told Ian when we could do so "You have a great GF. WTF are you doing, man?" and after their break-up told Mina that currently she should not be with Ian. If now a contemplative Ian and Mina find a way back together, that would be great for my Edwin. If they find out they need other LIs to be happy than my Edwin will be happy for them too.
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By your comment it is rather clear you did not play a route with medium or high freindship/bromance score. The differences in dialog and tone, small as they have been at first, are adding up more and more.
In a certain way, this made my day! Such an analysis would even bring Dr. Lundgren to facepalm! What an image!
Over the run of the game we get it from several independent in-game sources that Grace is an ice-cold and rather unfit mother. She makes amoral, eccentric, calculating Sophia Lundgren look like a cuddly hugger in comparison.Motherly affection Ian only got from Alice and Vicki, very rarely Grace.
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If the dev has designed to make Grace an objectively better mother, they're doing a terrible job at it. She wants what's best for Ian by controlling his entire life and cruelly manipulating people he's close to to accomplish that goal. Her methods have only made Ian worse, whereas Vicky had wound up making Edwin far better. She doesn't want to make Ian succeed, she doesn't want to fail at having him succeed.
Edit: Hell just look at where they started: Ian was the quiet nice kid while Edwin was the troublemaker with issues, now look to present day where it flipped, where Ian is living his 20s like a wrecking ball and Edwin is trying to seriously advance his career.
Edit: Hell just look at where they started: Ian was the quiet nice kid while Edwin was the troublemaker with issues, now look to present day where it flipped, where Ian is living his 20s like a wrecking ball and Edwin is trying to seriously advance his career.
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Ah, I'm on my phone, I could barely see it lol.the blushing pepoo emote is the universal sign of serious posts
Making a pregnant lady work, poor ankles.
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Every scene where we get blue-balled. It's funny that it happens more than once
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Rejecting Rose's offer or Hana's proposal to become a couple. Both looked so disappointed and sad, which made me question if I really wanted to continue with my decisions. Mina's sad face when you kiss Hana at the concert... didn't follow that route, but I remember seeing some pics of that scene here and even that was enough to feel bad for her.
I am usually a silent observer but let me break us into 1000 pages. Amazing game. keep up the great work devs, can't wait for the next update.
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Good thing mods already removed the trolls post from earlier today or this would have been the last post before page 1000
Edit: it still happened prpa
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Hi! I truly doubt TD and GiL had the intention to make Grace a good mom. Especially on runs with high bromance it becomes very clear that Ian as a person is a complete afterthought for Grace. Motherly affection he only got from Alice and mainly Vicki and how Ian is, interests Grace zero.
As Ian (if we get him to think about his future) tells us, he would like to become a professor/teacher of History, but that would never fly with Grace. And we get confirmation of this twice already. And we can easily see that for Grace Ian counts as nothing, he should simply function. The only thing that worries Grace is that Ian´s playboy attitude hurts her outside image. The person Ian and that it is her neglect of him which led him onto his current path, interests Grace nothing. Only her standing counts.
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The post I was referring to got removed, I was basically baited lol
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