Ottoeight

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What threat? She seems to have tried to force Vicky to speak with Ian about going to college or she would tell Edwin and Ian about Vicky's past. But instead Vicky did that herself, bereaving Grace of her means to pressure Vicky to do anything, while also laying Grace's scheme open to Ian which will only lead to him despising Grace even more. I would call that a backfire.

And Chuck is openly undermining Grace's wishes by enabling Ian to live how he does. If anything he would be angry at her for trying to pressure Ian.
BUT Victoria had already told her that she would have spoken with Ian: she didn't need to flip the table...

and most of all, if Victoria decided to talk to Edwin about her past instead of doing what Grace demanded... well, telling her: "go and tell Ian that he should go to college" wasn't definitely what she told her to do, I guess.
If Vic got drunk and decided to speak with Edwin "about that", well... I guess Grace really cornered her and threatened and Vic frightened.
 

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Well, we'll see... :HideThePain:
Nah, it's certain that Chuck isn't Edwin's father because TD isn't a hack writer (despite him saying otherwise). This wouldn't make any sense for several reasons. Why would Chuck not tell Edwin that he is his father? Why wouldn't Victoria tell him this but instead say:

"I remember Dr. Kohler. Wasn't he... uh... a bit... off?"
(...)
"She seemed like she wanted to say more, but thought better of it."

I also believe that Abel wouldn't break in or even approach Edwin knowing that and I'm pretty sure he did an extensive background check on Edwin and Chuck (and checking for DNA in a brothel where Chuck and Edwin leave plenty of it would be super easy).
 

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I was replaying game for 5th times to get different saves (Rosalind full deal, because in my all other saves she is friend or main interest, now I angry with her) and found this. Is this The Judge from Ace Attorney? Husband of Kathleen. Final update will be battle in court xD Also game is full of details. Even when reread game you always found something new like mention of italian classic cinema Suspiria.
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Sorry, don't see any resemblance at all. Objection overruled.


In the confines of this particular pool of sims-like degenerates, he is. Hope she gives him a chance (luck favors the bold).

That being said, I hope there's a bit less lovey-dovey stuff in the next update. Not that I appreciate it but I think everyone who's not directly involved in our MC's private sex adventures should have additional scenes of naughtiness. I like that he's the center of attention and great mediator but I also like to watch them fall into the abyss. I've become a kind of kiss Kathleen's boots and slap her afterwards kinda guy instead and that's not what the game's focus should be on.

The only real criticism of this power fantasy are the tits though. Wish there was more diversity. I know, madness.
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I understand that not all huge ones are that way but...

I am NOT complaining because there's Dommy Mommy kink, goth kink, and bubbly girl kink right there in X Large fashion. Now to just wait for public release...
 

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Hey guys, still haven't played the update because I'm waiting for a walkthough for such a complex game.

Is there any scene exclusive to Hana girlfriend (not fuckbuddies) path in this update?
 

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BTW, so far no one has mentioned about the weird thing that Victoria said:

Grace: "You look good!"

Victoria: "Not as good as you. You've hardly look like you aged - as elegant as ever! Did you know my son had quite the crush on you?"

Grace: "He was a boy going through puberty. I'd have to be deaf, dumb, AND blind not to notice."

Victoria: "You could've used that to your advantage, you know."

Grace: "Advantage for what?"

And earlier, even though she heard Killian had a crush on her she showed herself to him only in a super-short towel showing her vagina to her son and Ian:

So even though we won't have incest we will have Edwin x Grace x Veronica x Ian foursome, mark my words.

BUT Victoria had already told her that she would have spoken with Ian: she didn't need to flip the table...
No, Victoria told Grace that she should make an effort and allow Ian to be himself and maybe after a while when they would be closer she could try to steer him in the right direction. That was not the kind of help Grace was looking for.

Is there a way to get the old font back? The new font text is too small for me. Even on 27 inch monitor.
Yeah, you can use Shift+A to change the size and the font itself (to DejaVu) or you can do more:
https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-up-5-mutt-jeff.50281/post-15707306
 
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BTW, so far no one has mentioned about the weird thing that Victoria said:

Grace: "You look good!"

Victoria: "Not as good as you. You've hardly look like you aged - as elegant as ever! Did you know my son had quite the crush on you?"

Grace: "He was a boy going through puberty. I'd have to be deaf, dumb, AND blind not to notice."

Victoria: "You could've used that to your advantage, you know."

Grace: "Advantage for what?"

And earlier, even though she heard Killian had a crush on her she showed herself to him only in a super-short towel showing her vagina to her son and Ian:
Yes I also thought about it during that scene, Victoria spoke with full knowledge of the facts :sneaky:
 

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BUT Victoria had already told her that she would have spoken with Ian: she didn't need to flip the table...

and most of all, if Victoria decided to talk to Edwin about her past instead of doing what Grace demanded... well, telling her: "go and tell Ian that he should go to college" wasn't definitely what she told her to do, I guess.
If Vic got drunk and decided to speak with Edwin "about that", well... I guess Grace really cornered her and threatened and Vic frightened.
So what would Grace want her to do in the first place that at the same time would prompt her to tell Edwin about her past? That doesn't make sense...

Also Vicky tried to notch Grace to be more open to what Ian wants to do and give him space. That was obviously not what Grace was after and when she realized her talk with Vicky was getting her nowhere, she seems to start to resort to extortion. Like "if you don't do what you can to get Ian to go to college, I'll tell your son and Ian what you did!" or something along those lines. That is how I understood it at least.


BTW, so far no one has mentioned about the weird thing that Victoria said:

Grace: "You look good!"

Victoria: "Not as good as you. You've hardly look like you aged - as elegant as ever! Did you know my son had quite the crush on you?"

Grace: "He was a boy going through puberty. I'd have to be deaf, dumb, AND blind not to notice."

Victoria: "You could've used that to your advantage, you know."

Grace: "Advantage for what?"

And earlier, even though she heard Killian had a crush on her she showed herself to him only in a super-short towel showing her vagina to her son and Ian:

So even though we won't have incest we will have Edwin x Grace x Veronica x Ian foursome, mark my words.


No, Victoria told Grace that she should make an effort and allow Ian to be himself and maybe after a while when they would be closer she could try to steer him in the right direction. That was not the kind of help Grace was looking for.


Yeah, you can use Shift+A to change the size and the font itself (to DejaVu) or you can do more:
https://f95zone.to/threads/pale-carnations-ch-4-up-5-mutt-jeff.50281/post-15707306
I mean...I had my "Vicky and Ian secretly have an affair" theory not for entirely nothing. :HideThePain:
 

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So even though we won't have incest we will have Edwin x Grace x Veronica x Ian foursome, mark my words.
This is more delusional than hoping in a romantic love story between Edwin and Sophia.

Should I remind you that the story will end on week 4, saturday night?



No, Victoria told Grace that she should make an effort and allow Ian to be himself and maybe after a while when they would be closer she could try to steer him in the right direction. That was not the kind of help Grace was looking for.
So, she can

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She was totally in despair in that scene, bro.
 
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I am interested in Fel but not when Mina is involved so I had chosen not to see the threesome scene between them. Do they all enter a relationship or hint at one after that scene?
Edwin makes a vague reference to events of previous night to tease Mina a little when they're all gathered in the private room, but that's all. There's not really any real reason for this arrangement to end up in a relationship, given Felicia has her own priorities outside of her dedicated romance path.
 

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BTW, so far no one has mentioned about the weird thing that Victoria said:

Grace: "You look good!"

Victoria: "Not as good as you. You've hardly look like you aged - as elegant as ever! Did you know my son had quite the crush on you?"

Grace: "He was a boy going through puberty. I'd have to be deaf, dumb, AND blind not to notice."

Victoria: "You could've used that to your advantage, you know."

Grace: "Advantage for what?"
It's not exactly weird. Victoria recognizes that Grace could've used that (Edwin's former crush) as leverage in her attempt to make Edwin do her bidding, something Grace actually did by promising Edwin "anything". Edwin has told Victoria about Grace's request so that's Victoria's way of bringing this subject up rather than beat around the bush.

And jumping from this to the idea that there will be double-incest foursome is indeed Sophia-pining mad. :whistle:
 
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How many route saves would you guys recommend for this? I'm a bit lost trying to catch up on which girls have solo vs exclusive content (threesomes and such).
 

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This is more delusional than hoping in a romantic love story between Edwin and Sophia.

Should I remind you that the story will end on week 4, saturday night?





So, she can

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She was totally in despair in that scene, bro.
Week 4 is when shit will hit the fan, mark my words, everything have been going way to smooth so far.
 

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BTW, I'm still grinning while thinking about our bros who were fantasizing about steamy sex between Edwin and Ian's mother - my little prediction is that Sophia's aficionados are next in line for their treat. :sneaky:
Hi! Ww´ll see, but I theorise your prediction to be wrong, because there is quite a dfference between those two characters. Most info we could get on Grace painted a consistent picture of an envious, selfish harpy, nearly dead inside only interested in selfgratification and her fancy family facade. These update underlined this once again and showed how dangerous she can be if she runs or threratens to run to Chuck for help. Grace was an asshat from the first second of the game.

Sophia is quite different, she wears a grey hat. Dr. Lundgren is an amoral, ends justify the means genius. She is emotionally stunted by her eccentrism and high abstraction of life, but she feels. Unlike Grace, who seems to be able only to enjoy negative emotions, Sophia feels the fulll range, but constricted by several factors.
For example, she enjoys bringing in a different touch. Chemistry is full of rules and tight definitions, part of her creations bring in a bit of Chaos. Her expression says much.
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By the way, since you are one of the discussion members who go on about her using the perfume undiscriminately and to mellow Edwin, that is not really the case. Edwin knows(!) that he is tested and influenced (and our two nerds still click)and Sophia uses her creations only where it is unproblematic.
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Edwin finds Sophia so easy to talk to, when most other people have problems with it. Even Kath is unnerved by Sophia´s eccentric, blunt, in the face talk. I know that you will now argue that Sophia is a honey trap for Edwin, but that does not really fit. As far as we know, Sophia is always like this, she is too eccentric to be honey trap material.

Another difference between Sopia and Grace is that Ian´s mom disliked and hated Edwin practically from the first minute they met. She even tells our MC exactly that.
For Sophia Edwin clearly started as a neutrum to be seen what he turns out to be. They connect due to their shared nerdiness and they are closer in spirit than most other characters in game. You can even make sure they click to the extend possible at the time. Once again, for someone emotionally out there as Sophia is, her behaviour/actions during the late phase of the talk and during the "home invasion" are quite significant if we tried to get on her good side.

By the way, since I read a number of posts, which state some theories what I supposedly argue for: I am well aware that Sophia is not a fully good person. Not for nothing I count her among the grey hats. She is not a bad person, but eccentric and does not shy away from making hard choices when needed. When I say not a bad person this is connected with the fact that the official reason they are at the club is pure bogus. Abel and Sophia have access to black ops labs where they could test and make questionable experiments to their hearts´content without much risk. And their loathing of the the current PC leadership is obvious to us. As I mentioned in earlier posts, I estimate Abel and Sophia being on an own crusade against Chuck and Co. or punchclock villians for an acronym firm or organisation.
Further I am also very aware of the fact that Sophia is an amoral, eccentric nerd genius. A happy romance with her is certainly different from a normal romance! Which is one major reason I am all for a happy romance between the MC and Sophia! While they would have an amount of "standard" romantic events (e.g. going to the ice cream parlor and the cinema) there would also be romantic events only an eccentric person would see as such.

And while I hope for a happy romance for an MC-Sophia couple, I am also aware that the chances for it happening are not good.
 

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If you care about Mina or Hana only, you might be disappointed, although it makes me wonder why have you even started playing a game where 90% of female characters are MILFs?

Anyway, if you're into younger ones
Wow have I rarely seen someone so oblivious of his own ignorance yet so full of confidence. You're making random interpretations to fit your own made-up narrative.

The guy just said He liked Mina and Hana and wanted scenes with them, how can you be so arrogant to think this means he only likes young girls instead of simply enjoying their characters the most, while you so full of yourself believe you're here for the plot.

If anyone is into cheap mindless fetish and thus unable to appreciate the plot in any way because of their own degenerate need to satisfy their primitive mind's kink, it's clear that you're the one. With this depraved attraction for the only grandma-age girl of the game, greying hair and wrinkles, showing to everyone how debased your mind is with its obsession for granny content, flappy saggy skin, arthritis, dentures, and adult diapers, preventing your mind for appreciating the greatness of characters like Mina and Hana because you are skipping everything only looking for your grandma dom in stockings.

This was best put by Dr Chuck himself:

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Your depraved being indeed cannot be described as human but only animalistic, with such unrestrained and mindless gratification.

Although it makes me wonder why you even started this game where 90% of female characters are below 36?


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