VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Beduin123]

She will have access to the elite, all in one building at the same time, many of them being much more wealthy than Elias. You not seeing this simple fact is mind-boggling.

While I agree with you on most that you said, how many geisha do we know who made it to the top, especially considering that most of the people here seem to believe that she doesn't need another husband?
I mean, knowing the human history I can remember a few but that's for a three thousand years or so.
And none of them was fucked on a stage

 

[labmouseblues]

She will have access to the elite, all in one building at the same time, many of them being much more wealthy than Elias.

I'm willing to hear TD out on the whole "Felicia has a plan" thing, but lets not pretend any of the club members are there to find a partner, business or otherwise. Unless the plan is to find an Elias 2.0 with an easier payout scheme, I don't think knowing a bunch of people who see women as objects is going to amount to anything, except maybe some low quality protein shakes.

 

[ffive]

While I agree with you on most that you said, how many geisha do we know who made it to the top

Very few people, period, made it to "the top" by the very nature of it being the top. This includes also thousands of rich dudes doing business, who ended up simply somewhere in the middle of the pack.

But the thing is, Felicia doesn't have to "make it to the top". This requirement is something you're imposing on her yourself, perhaps because it makes a much easier argument how she can never get what she's after? What Felicia actually wants is to get sufficiently comfortable, wealthy life where she's independent, instead of completely depending on wealth and whims of a rich asshole who picked her for his trophy wife.

 

[Beduin123]

Very few people, period, made it to "the top" by the very nature of it being the top. This includes also thousands of rich dudes doing business, who ended up simply somewhere in the middle of the pack.

But the thing is, Felicia doesn't have to "make it to the top". This requirement is something you're imposing on her yourself, perhaps because it makes a much easier argument how she can never get what she's after? What Felicia actually wants is to get sufficiently comfortable, wealthy life where she's independent, instead of completely depending on wealth and whims of a rich asshole who picked her for his trophy wife.

With you it seems that I always need to explain the basics. By getting on the top I mean "Felicia actually getting sufficiently comfortable, wealthy life where she's independent". How many women through the history have achieved that? And for what special skill, talent or reason she is to get that? Why? Because she will get "connections"?

Please don't tell that we live now in a different world. Those rich bastards in this story do exactly the same: objectify the women.

 

[ffive]

By getting on the top I mean "Felicia actually getting sufficiently comfortable, wealthy life where she's independent". How many women through the history have achieve that?

Please, don't try to move the goalposts. Your earlier post included this part:

I mean, knowing the human history I can remember a few but that's for a three thousand years or so.

While this could be accepted on condition by "the top" you actually meant the top, are you now going to try to claim that only "a few woman in three thousands of years" have been living a life that could be considered "sufficiently comfortable, wealthy and independent?" Because that'd be simply insane in its ignorance, or so detached from reality that's not even funny.

There's plenty more than "a few" women who meet these conditions now as we speak. They have their own money, they live comfortable lives and they are independent. Heck, there's over 300 female billionaires alone. (and out of those, ~50 are all self-made) Don't try to act as if this is some sort of unattainable goal that was only met by few women in entire human history.

 

[Hentrof]

Yes.

How can I have it

 

[Darreau91]

What’s with all the Felicia hate? She married a rich prick to save her painting school and is attempting to make moves to expand her financial revenue by becoming involved in the carnation club. Seems like a semi logical thing to do in a piss poor marriage so she don’t get trapped or overly dependent.

Felicia has also been the most chill carnation with Edwin from day 1. Depending on how you play it I think one of her most recent story arcs and sex scenes was the most romantic and tender outside of Hana’s plot line.

Plus Felicia has a grade A booty, sexy tan lines, looks fantastic in doggy style, and has a solid rack. What sane man would hate that, especially when she dirty talks in that sexy lil country accent.

She recognizes the 2nd best waifu in Mina
and going for that throuple. (Veronica numero uno waifu.) That’s 8000 points into the likability department imo.

 

[FLESHNIK]

How can I have it

 

[marcodelamoret]

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Thanks for the update

Hummm little question:
So "only" one possible path for each girl?
That will be a lot of endings, right? Too bad no "harem" path then hehe ...
I'm impatiently waiting for the rest of the story !!

 

[misfolk]

I'm willing to hear TD out on the whole "Felicia has a plan" thing, but lets not pretend any of the club members are there to find a partner, business or otherwise. Unless the plan is to find an Elias 2.0 with an easier payout scheme, I don't think knowing a bunch of people who see women as objects is going to amount to anything, except maybe some low quality protein shakes.

Felicia: "I have calculated all the risks in advance, but it turns out I am really bad at math!"

 

[dyuvn]

Does anyone have the full save or a gallery unlocker for this new update?

 

[Beduin123]

ou now going to try to claim that only "a few woman in three thousands of years" have been living a life that could be considered "sufficiently comfortable, wealthy and independent?"

The main word here is independent. It doesn't fit with other two. Do you realize that most of the history apart from last 50 years or so people lived in very patriarchal communities? In that kind of environment, if you aren't on the top you aren't independent.

There's plenty more than "a few" women who meet these conditions now as we speak. They have their own money, they live comfortable lives and they are independent.

So, where does Felicia fit in? she sacrificed her independence for "sufficiently comfortable, wealthy". You are running in circles. You don't have good arguments for Felicia's plan. I also don't have much against it either because, I guess, it is not completely revealed. But as of now it looks very weak to me.

So, please don't waste your breath and move on. In the future updates we will see if the plan is good or not, if additional information about that is revealed. Sorry but I don't want to go for another round trying to explain to you the basics of the business ethics and social stratification.

What’s with all the Felicia hate?

There is no hate, I love her. I just have doubts about feasibility of her plan and the game fanboys are trying to trample me down

I tried to give up the discussion a couple of times but some people still want to argue with me. The point is, the game is still unfinished and things can yet change in the way of invalidating her plan or totally failing it..

 

[slightchance]

Plus Felicia has a grade A booty, sexy tan lines, looks fantastic in doggy style, and has a solid rack. What sane man would hate that, especially when she dirty talks in that sexy lil country accent.

When was that agreed on? She might be country but she clearly talks with a transatlantic accent.

 

[bonerland]

When was that agreed on? She might be country but she clearly talks with a transatlantic accent.

Pretty sure in the scene where you fuck her in her husband's office, her natural accent slips through a couple of times.

 

[Thor875]

What do you think, is it possible that Vicky is still making porn these days?
I know Donovan said she can do it 2 or 3 years. Than she is a Star and stopped?

 

[Idontplay]

The developers have said no, so there is a high chance that the answer is no.

 

[Thor875]

Sorry i edited this too late for your answer.
I know Donovan said she can do it 2 or 3 years. Than she is a Star and stopped?
But if the developer says no i have my answer.

 

[BamfCross]

game crashes every time for me during the Donovan Victoria flash back. is there any fix for it?

 

[Ozymandias037]

There is no hate, I love her. I just have doubts about feasibility of her plan and the game fanboys are trying to trample me down

I dunno, I think we're all game fanboys here. It's just us Felicia fanboys who keep arguing with you.

I tried to give up the discussion a couple of times but some people still want to argue with me I insist on having the last word every time I'm quoted or direct replied.

FTFY

ETA: Okay, that was probably a little mean. I'm sorry if it's too much.

...but not sorry enough to delete it, because I think it's funny.

 

[Drearash]

Felicia: "I have calculated all the risks in advance, but it turns out I am really bad at math!"

I'll reiterate an idea I suggested earlier: the Carnations are all desperate in their own way. Felicia hides it behind a facade of self-assurance and fun, but she's just as desperate as Rose is for a different life. So it's probably less about being really bad at math and more about being willing to accept really long odds.