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Random question but does the kiss between Mina and Hana require a certain amount of "bi" points for Mina for her to do it or does it happen no matter what if you are in a "fwb" relationship with both of them?

Like would Mina still do it if I didn't have her kiss Felicia or Hana didn't bring up her past experience during the birthday party


Lost all my saves so working my way back through but can't remember for sure
According to the walkthrough it has 2 triggers apparently: https://attachments.f95zone.to/2025/01/4461005_PaleCarnations-Ch4Up5_walkthrough-rev-1.5.pdf
 

Simpgor

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As i remember, you can warn her about
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Yeah Edwin is warning her about the club patron being there, her reaction to him has a variation based on if she was told or not.

Even if Edwin focuses on trying to figure out why they are there all he gets (iirc) is that it's part of the upcoming exhibition, and kathleen is surprised that he is there when they talk on the phone. He can know about the painting but the husband is definitely not something he is expecting as if you do the Felicia photoshoot (week 2) Edwin is going to be in more immediate danger than felica come exhibition night :KEK:

Sigh. Anyone, just please let Kathleen get her comeuppance. I don't even want Details or anything. A simple yes or no. Yes she will, ok, cool, i can stay invested in this story, no she won't ok, alright, time to let go.
Honestly i think you can more than others make it seem at least in a sexual sense, every scene with her has at least some variation in the "dom" for at least part of it and the most recent one focuses on that entirely, and you are able to turn her down to her surprise at least once (with no tangible reward for you doing so)

Story wise you can poke her with something at some point if that counts as a win :HideThePain:
 
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Of course, her character and actions are a big contributor in making the game as great as it is. Doesn´t change the fact I want to make her into a housegirl and parade her in front of the patreons and her former subordinants. I am weird like that.
The funny thing is, Kath would probably actively applaud that kind of sadistic instinct. I could very much see her giving a smug little smile and saying "I dare you to try."

Yeah Edwin is warning her about the club patron being there, her reaction to him has a variation based on if she was told or not.

Even if Edwin focuses on trying to figure out why they are there all he gets (iirc) is that it's part of the upcoming exhibition, and kathleen is surprised that he is there when they talk on the phone. He can know about the painting but the husband is definitely not something he is expecting as if you do the Felicia photoshoot (week 2) Edwin is going to be in more immediate danger than felica come exhibition night :KEK:
This makes me wonder, actually... Could Kathleen's ploy with Elias end up being the last straw that brings everything crashing down? I could see someone as petty and spiteful as him being so enraged by the betrayal of both his wife and Kathleen baiting him into the club that he vows to use his wealth and influence to bring the place down. In a Greek tragedy, that could be the kind of climactic moment that sets everything up for the third act where everything goes to shit and everyone dies.

I don't think it will, though. Maybe if Kathleen was the main character and this was a traditional story about hubris. But this is Edwin's story so while that would make for a fantastic and unexpected story arc, it's not personal enough to him for it to happen that way.

Not really, it just felt like Massive Fangirling from Felicia over someone who was able to do what she herself has given up on and never gave a real shot.
I agree with this. I just got a lot of vibes of "omg squee you're so fucking cool you're actually doing what I wanted to do when I was younger and you're so good at it and I see so much of myself in you but you're doing it and I was too scared and now I have big regrets let me live vicariously through you you're just so fucking cool I can't even omg"
 

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This makes me wonder, actually... Could Kathleen's ploy with Elias end up being the last straw that brings everything crashing down? I could see someone as petty and spiteful as him being so enraged by the betrayal of both his wife and Kathleen baiting him into the club that he vows to use his wealth and influence to bring the place down. In a Greek tragedy, that could be the kind of climactic moment that sets everything up for the third act where everything goes to shit and everyone dies.

I don't think it will, though. Maybe if Kathleen was the main character and this was a traditional story about hubris. But this is Edwin's story so while that would make for a fantastic and unexpected story arc, it's not personal enough to him for it to happen that way.
I agree on all fronts :KEK: I've been pointing it out since we got that as the Cliffhanger that Elias is going to be bullied hardcore, patrons at the club already said they're interacting with Felicia just because she's his wife nevermind the fact that her whole reason for being there is to get power without him and likely won't be spending more time than required

While it probably won't be the straw that breaks the camels back it is another example of her potentially directly fucking with their lives outside the club that could push Edwin towards (insert endings here)
 
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You don't. You be a good boy and feed Mina to old man Veronica. Forget Hana.

Or, I don't know, maybe check the walkthrough..?
I did, it said I need 3 bi-curious and not dating Hana. But I didn't get the scene. I didn't even get the prompt with Killian before the scene that was shown on the walk-through
 

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I did, it said I need 3 bi-curious and not dating Hana. But I didn't get the scene. I didn't even get the prompt with Killian before the scene that was shown on the walk-through
Don't actually occupy Mina with Veronica during that outing. Have Edwin watch the performance together with her, so she can see Hana and Edwin getting close and personal.
 

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This makes me wonder, actually... Could Kathleen's ploy with Elias end up being the last straw that brings everything crashing down?
I theorise that the Elias ploy is DEFINITELY to sow Chaos now. Kathleen finally makes her play to gain full control over the club. That she can stir drama with Felicia and Elias is simply a nice bonus for her sadism. There are reasons why Kath invited and met Eliras alone. Neither August, Chuck nor the other patrons would like seeing him.
 
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Don't actually occupy Mina with Veronica during that outing. Have Edwin watch the performance together with her, so she can see Hana and Edwin getting close and personal.
I did that as well. when I cheer with mina, hana only pull edwin on stage and not with mina so it ends with mina jealous.
 

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I did that as well. when I cheer with mina, hana only pull edwin on stage and not with mina so it ends with mina jealous.
That's correct. The interaction between Mina and Hana only occurs at the very end of the game (at the parking lot) not during the concert. In a way, it happens because Mina is jealous.
 

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I did that as well. when I cheer with mina, hana only pull edwin on stage and not with mina so it ends with mina jealous.
You have to wait till the concert is over. Admittedly, a mistake was made by the devs in putting that scene in the gallery before another scene where the concert is still ongoing. Just let the concert play out, it will show up if you did everything you were supposed to.
 

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I theorise that the Elias ploy is DEFINITELY to sow Chaos now. Kathleen finally makes her play to gain full control over the club. That she can stir drama with Felicia and Elias is simply a nice bonus for her sadism. There are reasons why Kath invited and met Eliras alone. Neither August, Chuck nor the other patrons would like seeing him.
I disagre on Elias sowing chaos among the management? Why does August care if he's there? August is purely business focused and Elias doesn't have the power (money, position or connections) to be a threat to the club and definitely not to August. The club has people in much more prominent positions (police chief, a damn ambassador to a foreign country) so how does a declining steel magnate throw a wrench into things?

Maybe August doesn't see it coming because he ia focused on the "business" (gang) side of and somehow you count him being surprised as "chaos" but there is NO WAY that Chuck would be phased, and honestly no way that he doesn't already know that kathleen is bringing him even if she's trying her best to keep it a secret (for some reason).

Remember that Chuck has never been surprised or a step behind Kathleen he knew and allowed her to "mess" with Edwin's Head to a point but knew what she was doing and directly told her to stop (when it hadn't been made obvious that he knew before hand) and since then we have got multiple confirmations that Chuck spends time in the security room (the Hana blow job scene) which gives him an easy excuse to know that Elias is there before the exhibition..... but like I said how does Elias even do anything? Chuck is without missing a beat telling the chief of police to "shut the hell up" so that he (chuck) can enjoy Edwin fingering felica....... which is another :HideThePain: reason that he won't give a shit about Elias

(Props for not involving Sophia tho)
 
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