VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

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Without further to do...

CAKE TIER LIST

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Tried to keep to more recent updates because yeah, lighting and reflections have been hella improved.

Some observations:

1. Lucy is in dire need of an ass shot.
2. Kathleen, surprisingly considering the last update, is in dire need of a more recent ass shot. Doing my GILF dirty.
3. Detailed grain work in Sophia's ass is very photo realistic for honey select.

LMAO, that's some free time right there.
ok let me try to guess who's who
S+: Sophia (Sophia hate will not be tolerated, just you wait till she gets the best scene of the next update )
S: Veronica, Vicky
A:Mina, Felicia
B: Bartender, Hana
C: Rosalind?, Andrea?, Dalia
D: No idea, Harper, no idea, Kathleen

 

[AidanPryde04808]

This could be some 5-d chess move in her plan to (Kathleen goal here) or it could be to fuck with the carnation that Kathleen has been wrong about on multiple occasions during the exhibitions?

I just dont see how Elias changes anything with August/Chuck and doubly so if Kathleen has to avoid blowback/come out on top of it, honestly unless Elias is an actual cuck I dont see him thanking Kathleen for "lying" to get him to come to a show where his wife has potentially been tied up and covered in multiple peoples cum or fucked after being on weird sex toy for like an hour. Keep in mind Felicia is only doing all of this because to her Elias is literally not an option in her goals

It's a Mind Game for Kathleen, she wants to break Felicia. So far Felicia mostly had Fun doing that Thing.

And I think that gnaws on Kathleens sense of "I am in Charge, i can do what I want. And everyone does what I tell them, this is MY game (see the Spider/Veronica Incident)".

What I think will happen is something like. The usual "strapping them in", having Edwin or someone else bring out the Painting from (What i still assume is her lost/abandoned/hidden Daughter, but that's a different topic) the Art Show and burn/destroy it in front of her and then start to fuck her on the Stage. And then while the fucking is going on Kathleen starts to make a "grand" Speech about the newest Club Member, the Door opens Kathleen says his Name and in walks Elias, while Felicia is being "taken" by someone.

That will sow Chaos in there, the Patrons will probably start to laugh or cheer or something, what's gonna do that to Elias's run for Mayor? Felicia may get extremely upset, to the point where she tries to hit/kill Kathleen, or completely breaks down, I think that may be the point to bring in the Confidence Points (which as of yet we don't know what they are for). If Confidence Points are above x amount she is just upset with Kathleen but continues. If they are below x then she breaks down in Shame and all.

Option 2 would be to the Delight of Kathleen.

The other Thing is, Elias may have some, unknown, Ties to federal Law Enforcement. Or, he has enough Money to hire a Hitsquad. That all Depends on how he reacts. He may just "not care" at all.

 

[Dactess]

Spoiler: Mina question

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[AidanPryde04808]

Spoiler: Mina question

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No one knows yet. Game ends basically right after the second Concert. There is a Walkthrough in the first Post. Personally, I was happy with the Hana/Mina Scene. Let's see where that'll go.

 

[Ottoeight]

It's a Mind Game for Kathleen, she wants to break Felicia. So far Felicia mostly had Fun doing that Thing.

And I think that gnaws on Kathleens sense of "I am in Charge, i can do what I want. And everyone does what I tell them, this is MY game (see the Spider/Veronica Incident)".

What I think will happen is something like. The usual "strapping them in", having Edwin or someone else bring out the Painting from (What i still assume is her lost/abandoned/hidden Daughter, but that's a different topic) the Art Show and burn/destroy it in front of her and then start to fuck her on the Stage. And then while the fucking is going on Kathleen starts to make a "grand" Speech about the newest Club Member, the Door opens Kathleen says his Name and in walks Elias, while Felicia is being "taken" by someone.

That will sow Chaos in there, the Patrons will probably start to laugh or cheer or something, what's gonna do that to Elias's run for Mayor? Felicia may get extremely upset, to the point where she tries to hit/kill Kathleen, or completely breaks down, I think that may be the point to bring in the Confidence Points (which as of yet we don't know what they are for). If Confidence Points are above x amount she is just upset with Kathleen but continues. If they are below x then she breaks down in Shame and all.

Option 2 would be to the Delight of Kathleen.

The other Thing is, Elias may have some, unknown, Ties to federal Law Enforcement. Or, he has enough Money to hire a Hitsquad. That all Depends on how he reacts. He may just "not care" at all.

1) Felicia considers Elias' run for mayor a nuisance;

2) every club member considers Elias a sort of an "impoverished noble" - some members openly look down on him and they are much wealthier than him.

 

[Dactess]

No one knows yet. Game ends basically right after the second Concert. There is a Walkthrough in the first Post. Personally, I was happy with the Hana/Mina Scene. Let's see where that'll go.

Well same, I am satisfied with the Hana and Mina ending.

My question is ultimately pointless, I mean in the end it doesn't effect me, the veronica/mina choice is probably one of the choices I will never pick lol Guess I am just curious if there is a reason they went from bi curious to dropping the lesbian word. Just a small detail I am obsessing over... Will find out later I suppose.

Thanks for the reply though

 

[Simpgor]

It's a Mind Game for Kathleen, she wants to break Felicia. So far Felicia mostly had Fun doing that Thing.

And I think that gnaws on Kathleens sense of "I am in Charge, i can do what I want. And everyone does what I tell them, this is MY game (see the Spider/Veronica Incident)".

What I think will happen is something like. The usual "strapping them in", having Edwin or someone else bring out the Painting from (What i still assume is her lost/abandoned/hidden Daughter, but that's a different topic) the Art Show and burn/destroy it in front of her and then start to fuck her on the Stage. And then while the fucking is going on Kathleen starts to make a "grand" Speech about the newest Club Member, the Door opens Kathleen says his Name and in walks Elias, while Felicia is being "taken" by someone.

That will sow Chaos in there, the Patrons will probably start to laugh or cheer or something, what's gonna do that to Elias's run for Mayor? Felicia may get extremely upset, to the point where she tries to hit/kill Kathleen, or completely breaks down, I think that may be the point to bring in the Confidence Points (which as of yet we don't know what they are for). If Confidence Points are above x amount she is just upset with Kathleen but continues. If they are below x then she breaks down in Shame and all.

Option 2 would be to the Delight of Kathleen.

The other Thing is, Elias may have some, unknown, Ties to federal Law Enforcement. Or, he has enough Money to hire a Hitsquad. That all Depends on how he reacts. He may just "not care" at all.

I agree with the idea Kathleen is doing it for her own enjoyment rather than her having her rely on Elias and how he reacts to various things to further a plan she's "betting everything on"

Like ottoeight pointed out multiple of the clubs patrons have already shit talked Elias (the one buying the painting iirc) and thats just when Elias is "technically" being cucked not actually being cucked in a room full of people who don't like him/wouldn't benefit from siding with him instead of the current Patrons.

Also why would the "failure" (as in hes currently losing money he just has enough for it not to matter right now) of a steel magnate have connections to the feds that he never mentioned when he was gassing himself in the interview (week 2), or why has Felicia/Kathleen never mentioned it? And as to hiring a hit squad? August has a long-time friend who we know is am actual gangster who is willing to burn and scar someone under him because they were disrespectful to a random girl which just so happened to be Hana. We know Chuck had Ties to the CIA (rocket/missle stuff) and there are multiple people at the club still talking like war mongers sorry but Elias is just going to sit there and take it like a good little boy or Samson will slap him into obedience lest Chuck get involved and scar Elias permanently

Edit: i still think that Edwin is in a worse position than any of the club Patrons unless one of the owners stands up for him he is by far the "lowest" member of the Club and who Felicia could be "emotionally cheating" in addition to the sex stuff at the club (and you know fucking her in the ass on his desk until she wants to be your sugar mama)

 

[prpa]

What i still assume is her lost/abandoned/hidden Daughter, but that's a different topic

I don't remember, was it ever stated how old Denise is? Felicia is only 34, and unless Denise is very young, I don't see how she could be her daughter.

 

[Great730]

To be honest, I can't imagine the end of this game, there are so many characters, so many probabilities of the end of each character, the ending of each carnation with ms, the ending of Hana and Mina, the ending of the harem, the ending where one gwojika wins and the other 2 remain the property of the club, and so on. Ps personally, I want to see Kathleen take over the club and turn Veronica into her club slut, just a fantasy nothing more

 

[Great730]

By the way, how would you like the game to end, write your thoughts and fantasies about this?

 

[Idontplay]

Felicia will become a homeless, Rosalind will commit suicide, Veronica will become a full time whore (not in the club, on the street), Mina will die by AIDS, Edwin will be castrated by Hana due his relationship whit Felicia, Hana finds out she has the same illness of her mother, Kateleen ruined because some journalist finds out she (the wife of a very important member of the city) is involved in the club, Ian will be disowned by all his relatives…

Yes, I'm not Mr. Nice Guy.

 

[kumenl0l]

Felicia will become a homeless, Rosalind will commit suicide, Veronica will become a full time whore (not in the club, on the street), Mina will die by AIDS, Edwin will be castrated by Hana due his relationship whit Felicia, Hana finds out she has the same illness of her mother, Kateleen ruined because some journalist finds out she (the wife of a very important member of the city) is involved in the club, Ian will be disowned by all his relatives…

Yes, I'm not Mr. Nice Guy.

 

[ffive]

but I am just curious if that like makes her lesbian, thus not bi, and as a result no longer attracted to men such as the MC.

I mean no, sexual attraction doesn't work this way. I'd trust the devs of this particular game to know better than that.

 

[Tiranda889]

After rejecting mina's advances, change your mind.

How to trigger this memories??

 

[jacbox]

Quick question - playing for the first time and I'm about to start week 3. Is there a way to actually date (not fuck, but be in a relationship) with Mina and Hana at the same time? No need to spoil it, just simple yes or no will suffice. Thanks!

 

[ffive]

Is there a way to actually date (not fuck, but be in a relationship) with Mina and Hana at the same time?

No, the only relationship you can start at this point is with Hana.

 

[lustforsex]

After rejecting mina's advances, change your mind.

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Reject Mina and just continue playing, later you will have a chance to change your mind, but there is a nuance

 

[Dactess]

After rejecting mina's advances, change your mind.

How to trigger this memories??

For me, I had to make sure to just be FWB with Hana, if I went GF, it would skip the scene.


Just wanted to add that incase you were still having trouble

 

[ename144]

This could be some 5-d chess move in her plan to (Kathleen goal here) or it could be to fuck with the carnation that Kathleen has been wrong about on multiple occasions during the exhibitions?

I just dont see how Elias changes anything with August/Chuck and doubly so if Kathleen has to avoid blowback/come out on top of it, honestly unless Elias is an actual cuck I dont see him thanking Kathleen for "lying" to get him to come to a show where his wife has potentially been tied up and covered in multiple peoples cum or fucked after being on weird sex toy for like an hour. Keep in mind Felicia is only doing all of this because to her Elias is literally not an option in her goals

Elias changes things because he's now a member of the Club - and likely to become an extremely unhappy one when it's sprung on him that he's been getting cucked in plain view of the other members for weeks now. August definitely won't like that because - as he noted in Chapter 4 Update 4 - he doesn't want anything to rock the boat while he's trying to patch things up with Hana. Elias is definitely going to rock the boat.

It's less clear if Chuck will have strong feelings on Elias directly, but even if he doesn't, someone is going to have to smooth all the feathers Elias is going to ruffle in his tantrum and I'm not sure he'd leave that up to August.

Basically, at the very least it will be an extremely noisy distraction. At worst it will polarize the Club into two (or more) camps which will need to be mollified before business as normal can resume. It's a chaotic opportunity Kathleen could exploit (or at least think she could). That's how I see it, anyway.

After rejecting mina's advances, change your mind.

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You need to be on Mina's path but turn down the opportunity to help her cheat on Killian in Week 2, then have at least 23 Affection with Mina when the MC gets coffee with her in Week 3. This will give you the opportunity to kiss Mina during the hangout and restart the romance.

As Dactess noted, however, if the MC has made Hana his formal girlfriend in the meantime then he will automatically turn down the opportunity with Mina in Week 3. So you need to keep things with Hana casual (or not be on her path at all).

 

[Turret]

I'd guess those are going to affect Felicia's ability to ultimately strike out on her own instead of putting up with her husband. But only the devs really know what they're for, at this point.

Hi ffive!
I think along those lines as well and theorise that it goes beyond the Elias situation. Felicia´s CPs and how we gain them hint pretty much towards leading Feli to doing what she is good at and living her life the way she wants. e.g. Taking up painting seriously again (she is really good at and has passion for it)
It is one stat we need to raise, currently IIRC 4-6 points possible if we like Feli

Elias changes things because he's now a member of the Club - and likely to become an extremely unhappy one when it's sprung on him that he's been getting cucked in plain view of the other members for weeks now. August definitely won't like that because - as he noted in Chapter 4 Update 4 - he doesn't want anything to rock the boat while he's trying to patch things up with Hana. Elias is definitely going to rock the boat.

It's less clear if Chuck will have strong feelings on Elias directly, but even if he doesn't, someone is going to have to smooth all the feathers Elias is going to ruffle in his tantrum and I'm not sure he'd leave that up to August.

Basically, at the very least it will be an extremely noisy distraction. At worst it will polarize the Club into two (or more) camps which will need to be mollified before business as normal can resume. It's a chaotic opportunity Kathleen could exploit (or at least think she could). That's how I see it, anyway.

He ename144 !
Your thoughts on this situation mostly mirror me own. I think this loud, obvious distraction might be the start for Kath´s "revolution/rebellion". This distraction is strong enough to lower the attention elsewhere and Kath probably means to use this for her first major strike. We do not know much about the planning, just that Kath wants to take over the Club and has secured the "support" of (sorry Simpgor, have to mention Abel and Sophia here) Abel and Sophia. The support naturally in goose feet, since we know that the two doctors have plans which go beyond this.
I theorise we will get the choice to support Kath, Chuck/August, maybe August or Chuck alone and Abel and Sophia, when the lead starts to fly.