VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[HDussen]

can we ban ip in this site?

If only.
In general, I am not fan of using the Ignore button, but sometimes it is necessary. And half¹ of my list is that guy.

¹ Okay, 5 out of 11. Close enough.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Okay, so this game has such good reviews that I want to give it a chance, but the tags are throwing me off a bit. I have a few questions I hope someone can answer.

I get that the game is set in a brothel, and seeing the girls with other guys is probably unavoidable (I guess?). So my question is: even if you're on a girl's route, do you still have to see her working? Or is there an option to stop that somehow?

Because if I'm not on her route, I don't really care, she can do her thing. But I can't handle watching it if I'm actually pursuing her. You get me?

 

[prpa]

Okay, so this game has such good reviews that I want to give it a chance, but the tags are throwing me off a bit. I have a few questions I hope someone can answer.

I get that the game is set in a brothel, and seeing the girls with other guys is probably unavoidable (I guess?). So my question is: even if you're on a girl's route, do you still have to see her working? Or is there an option to stop that somehow?

Because if I'm not on her route, I don't really care, she can do her thing. But I can't handle watching it if I'm actually pursuing her. You get me?

There are five main LI's, but only three of them (Carnations) are competing in the club competition/exhibitions.

Loser of the first exhibition gets bukkake'd. In the second exhibition, there's an option for your friend to have sex with one of the LI's, or MC can do it himself. However, with two more exhibitions to go, it's likely that some (or all) of the Carnations may end up having sex with others. Since the main character works at the club and actively participates in exhibitions, he won’t be able to avoid seeing it if it happens.

That said, even as someone who primarily enjoys vanilla/romance content, I still highly recommend giving the game a try, it's genuinely one of the best games on the site. For me, the romance scenes are the highlight of the game, and you’d never guess that just by looking at the tags.

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[Julius Kingsley]

There are five main LI's, but only three of them (Carnations) are competing in the club competition/exhibitions.

Loser of the first exhibition gets bukkake'd. In the second exhibition, there's an option for your friend to have sex with one of the LI's, or MC can do it himself. However, with two more exhibitions to go, it's likely that some (or all) of the girls may end up having sex with others. Since the main character works at the club, he won’t be able to avoid seeing it if it happens.

That said, even as someone who primarily enjoys vanilla/romance content, I still highly recommend giving the game a try, it's genuinely one of the best games on the site. For me, the romance scenes are the highlight of the game, and you’d never guess that just by looking at the tags.

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From your comment, I noticed you said "so far." So is it just speculation at this point and nothing has actually happened yet?

You also mentioned two girls who aren't part of the competition. Do they end up in weird situations too, like the "three carnations," as you called them?

I'm all for a good story with some great romance. I just want to know what I'm getting into.

 

[HornyGuy0690]

Okay, so this game has such good reviews that I want to give it a chance, but the tags are throwing me off a bit. I have a few questions I hope someone can answer.

I get that the game is set in a brothel, and seeing the girls with other guys is probably unavoidable (I guess?). So my question is: even if you're on a girl's route, do you still have to see her working? Or is there an option to stop that somehow?

Because if I'm not on her route, I don't really care, she can do her thing. But I can't handle watching it if I'm actually pursuing her. You get me?

To add to what the previous commenter said, as the MC you can influence who loses the exhibition, and during the aforementioned bukkake scene, you have the option to look away and focus on something else. I can’t say what might happen in the future, but based on the choices the game has offered so far, I assume we’ll be able to prevent at least one of the carnations from doing anything with another man.

 

[Julius Kingsley]

To add to what the previous commenter said, as the MC you can influence who loses the exhibition, and during the aforementioned bukkake scene, you have the option to look away and focus on something else. I can’t say what might happen in the future, but based on the choices the game has offered so far, I assume we’ll be able to prevent at least one of the carnations from doing anything with another man.

Please tell me they're not all likable and worth protecting, lol.

 

[prpa]

Please tell me they're not all likable and worth protecting, lol.

Yes, they are.

 

[Elduriel]

You also mentioned two girls who aren't part of the competition. Do they end up in weird situations too, like the "three carnations," as you called them?

one of them works at the club in a sort of management position (owners's daughter), so she is not "entertainment". And the other has nothing to do with the club.

 

[Ottoeight]

I just want to know what I'm getting into.

Download the game. Unzip it. Play the prologue and see by yourself.

The prologue is more than enough for making you aware of what you are supposed to come across with by playing the story.

Anyway, 2 of the main girls aren't house girls/Carnations, therefore their routes are the safe ones: anyone who's telling you that Mina and/or Hana might be sexually exploited in the upcoming chapters is just a dude who just want to see every female character been sexually harassed/abused/exploited. Just their wishful thinking.

 

[Ottoeight]

I feel like I get what asking and from what I can remember you should be all clear. This game isn't really like BaDIK where there are character paths, so you can sort of be involved with all the girls simultaneously although you can't experience everything fully and even then there's alternate scenes between kind and harsher variants of the MC. But if there's a girl you like in particular, I feel like there's almost always a way to sort of be the sole person (at least male) that does anything with her. I guess the exception is Felicia (blonde trophy-wife looking character) and Mina (blonde girl next door looking character) since one is married and one is in a relationship when you start the game. Even then though, I don't think I remember anything being shown that doesn't involve the MC. It does seem from playing the more recent updates like you'll be able to steer some of these characters into more open situations but again it seems like it needs to be an intentional decision.

Nope. Wrong.

Every main girl has 1 major key choice in the early chapters. If you miss it, you are out of her route and you will miss every romance content with her.

 

[ffive]

Every main girl has 1 major key choice in the early chapters. If you miss it, you are out of her route and you will miss every romance content with her.

Hmm it's been a while i played, but does that go for Mina too? I can't really think of any such choice for her, even if you turn her down out of concern for Ian you get the "second chance" to get together afterwards.

 

[Maccabbee]

Hmm it's been a while i played, but does that go for Mina too? I can't really think of any such choice for her, even if you turn her down out of concern for Ian you get the "second chance" to get together afterwards.

I seem to recall Mina having multiple off-ramps, but it's been a while.

 

[slightchance]

Anyway, 2 of the main girls aren't house girls/Carnations, therefore their routes are the safe ones: anyone who's telling you that Mina and/or Hana might be sexually exploited in the upcoming chapters is just a dude who just want to see every female character been sexually harassed/abused/exploited. Just their wishful thinking.

Not that I am saying it's going to happen eventually or that it will be inevitable but Jeff & Mutt are more creative than you give them credit for. Unless you've heard it straight from horse's mouth it's your wishful thinking as well. Could be that I missed the announcement though. I give you my word that I'll be okay one way the other.

 

[Simpgor]

Not that I am saying it's going to happen eventually or that it will be inevitable but Jeff & Mutt are more creative than you give them credit for. Unless you've heard it straight from horse's mouth it's your wishful thinking as well. Could be that I missed the announcement though. I give you my word that I'll be okay one way the other.

Well they aren't going to be added to the carnations in the last week (not least because that creates almost x2 as much work not counting any variations)

Mina is "hard" for the MC to "sexually exploit" because she asked him for help with her fuckit list so anything "exploitative" would have to be something that she doesn't want at all? Going by her sex scene she wants to try almost everything the game has shown so far so i could see running into issues with patreon to "exploit" her in the same way the carnations are.

If you aren't doing Mina's route the ONLY (imo) way for Mina to get involved in the club would be Kathleen and she seems more focused on Felicia, and her stuff with Abel/Sophia. I also dont put any stock in the idea that Mina is going to be brought in this week (to "hurt" felica more) since we already know Elias is going to be there, and kathleen bought an emotionally important painting (to felica), kathleen has enough ammo for this to already be the hardest week for felica and imo brining in mina just serves to (potentially) piss off Edwin, Hana, Ian, and Chuck (if he thinks kathleen did it to fuck with Edwin/Ian)

Hana makes even less sense. Is kathleen gonna tempt her into being a whore instead of the boss/or sell her shares? Is Kathleen (who wants to be horny but still have respect) going to let the patrons go to town on one of the bosses (but not her).

I guess August was not only a badass super smart mob boss but he also had a secret incest fetish (august just like me frfr) and wanted to whore his daughter out.....so he gave her the position of boss......to......?

Obviously kathleens magic bullshit drug could work but once thats really out of the bottle there is no putting in back in

 

[fred9320]

my prefred girl is hanaaaaaaaa

 

[pinuz1]

Please tell me they're not all likable and worth protecting, lol.

Every single one of them is.

And you might not believe it, but that's one of the best parts of the game. The game puts you in a situation where you are an important cog in a huge wheel that is spinning, and by yourself, you have no power to stop it from moving, yet you are a key component on those 3 girls being involved in the competition where they might be forced to do some stuff they are not happy with (I'll mention that everything that happens is with "consent", all 3 carnations agree to participate and are free to leave at any point, the game doesn't do "rapey" stuff) but as I was mentioning, you end up spending a whole lot of time with them and as you grow closer to each of the carnations, you get to know what is at stakes for each, and not only that but you might end up falling for all 3 girls, every single one of them is an amazing character, and that whole dilemma of trying to help them through the competition, by making them have an easier time, or help them psychologically endure what they are going through, while you are also obligated to help them perform said duty that torments them is genius.

It makes you question your own morality, you have so many chances to take advantage of them, and for your character this whole thing should be only happiness and free pussy, but if you have a little bit of empathy it makes you want to root for the girls and try to help them in any way you can (while also getting some free pussy). Also I don't want to spoil anything but if seeing a character you love, end up with a sad ending worries you, I do think the game will let you help the girls that don't end up winning the exhibition in some way or another, tho take that with a grain of salt.

Aside from that, some other people already answered your first question, but yes, give the game a go, as much as it may seem this is some weird sharing game, or even NTR, it's nothing like that, you can pretty much avoid every instance where a girl has to interact with other men, and there's 2 girls that are away from the main competition and won't have to get involved in a sex club full of old men, even if some people in this thread would love it if it wasn't like that smh. Will it stay that way till the end? who knows, the game is definitely not vanilla, but that's what makes it so fun, there's no way to have a vanilla story be as interesting as the one this game has.

 

[pinuz1]

Is it original? I have never seen this!

Speaking from memory here, so I might be wrong, but to see this one you have to go and follow Hana after first exhibition is over instead of watching the punishment for the losing girl.

For me it was the other way around, I'd always follow Hana and ended up never seeing the

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You can't make Felicia your gf (yet(or probably ever))

Also, if i'm not mistaken, TD has confirmed every girl will have their own "ending" path, so I think a "girlfriend" route for each girl is more than possible, tho who knows, maybe some of the endings won't be as romantic as some others, but that's just speculation from my part. Sophia will get the most romantic ending and full of sex too, trust (chances are she's not getting any, but a man can fucking dream).

 

[Julius Kingsley]

Every single one of them is.

And you might not believe it, but that's one of the best parts of the game. The game puts you in a situation where you are an important cog in a huge wheel that is spinning, and by yourself, you have no power to stop it from moving, yet you are a key component on those 3 girls being involved in the competition where they might be forced to do some stuff they are not happy with (I'll mention that everything that happens is with "consent", all 3 carnations agree to participate and are free to leave at any point, the game doesn't do "rapey" stuff) but as I was mentioning, you end up spending a whole lot of time with them and as you grow closer to each of the carnations, you get to know what is at stakes for each, and not only that but you might end up falling for all 3 girls, every single one of them is an amazing character, and that whole dilemma of trying to help them through the competition, by making them have an easier time, or help them psychologically endure what they are going through, while you are also obligated to help them perform said duty that torments them is genius.

It makes you question your own morality, you have so many chances to take advantage of them, and for your character this whole thing should be only happiness and free pussy, but if you have a little bit of empathy it makes you want to root for the girls and try to help them in any way you can (while also getting some free pussy). Also I don't want to spoil anything but if seeing a character you love, end up with a sad ending worries you, I do think the game will let you help the girls that don't end up winning the exhibition in some way or another, tho take that with a grain of salt.

Aside from that, some other people already answered your first question, but yes, give the game a go, as much as it may seem this is some weird sharing game, or even NTR, it's nothing like that, you can pretty much avoid every instance where a girl has to interact with other men, and there's 2 girls that are away from the main competition and won't have to get involved in a sex club full of old men, even if some people in this thread would love it if it wasn't like that smh. Will it stay that way till the end? who knows, the game is definitely not vanilla, but that's what makes it so fun, there's no way to have a vanilla story be as interesting as the one this game has.

Making them all likable is the correct stance from a writing standpoint, but it will make choosing just one to support hard, man. I’m intrigued and downloading the game right now. I will give it a thorough chance, and even if it’s not for me, I won’t turn into another troll terrorizing this thread, dw guys lol.

 

[pinuz1]

Making them all likable is the correct stance from a writing standpoint, but it will make choosing just one to support hard, man. I’m intrigued and downloading the game right now. I will give it a thorough chance, and even if it’s not for me, I won’t turn into another troll terrorizing this thread, dw guys lol.

Trust me, you'd need to have serious mental problems to turn into another troll like the one we currently have , hope you enjoy the game btw, it's super fun and interesting, and there's plenty of wholesome content too, I'd say most people might drop it in the first couple hours because they might think the tags are not for them, but further in is when the romance and good stuff starts to build up and happens and it's worth it

 

[Simpgor]

Trust me, you'd need to have serious mental problems to turn into another troll like the one we currently have , hope you enjoy the game btw, it's super fun and interesting, and there's plenty of wholesome content too, I'd say most people might drop it in the first couple hours because they might think the tags are not for them, but further in is when the romance and good stuff starts to build up and happend and it's worth it

Im proud to say that i dropped it during the first "competition" but that even back then with way less content (and less emotionally hard hitting stuff) the writing was still good enough to make me come back to it a few days later.