VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[Whatever whenever]

Leave our favourites characters alone, please...

Kilian alone

 

[Whatever whenever]

tattoo removal It'll only benefit that dumb biker. Everyone has long known what tattoos on a woman's body mean. This is the stigma of a prostitute.

 

[Idontplay]

Sniff, sniff! I smell the scent of a troll.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

... You MONSTER!

Of all things in this world of debauchery....

Don't. Touch. The. TITS!

>_<;

Leave the Tits and the Tats.

 

[Buletti]

Yes, I have seen some headscratchers about "cucking" and "NTR" too. Among the WTF examples was a discussion where the MC voyeured on an exhibitionistic couple, said couple in a happy marriage btw, and then came some posts with "oh, this game is full of cucking and NTR". Really, guys, what did you smoke, please tell us, it must be good.

As for Veronica, I think outside the specific LI paths for her, there is no really viable relationship beside friendship with Edwin possible. Not because of her sexual orientation, but because of her character traits as a whole. For example, in my three personal canon playthroughs (which have other main LIs) only once did I get enough points to invite Veronica after an exhibition despite playing a nice Edwin who wants to help the three carnations.
And that one time was with specifically playing towards these points, making some decisions I would not choose otherwise.

Well, I could see Kath finally losing it and threatening Hana with tattoo removal if she does not sell her shares of the club to her.
Or another fate for Hana: getting saddled with a totally "East Asian" name like Mie-Ze explanation for those not getting the wordplay: Mieze (spoken in English probably Meetsah, end e is never silent in German) is a playful nickname in German for a cat. This wordplay is quite old, already used in the cult comic and cartoon detective series "Nick Knatterton", which was full of name and other wordplays. examples: Mi-Tse Meyer, German-Chinese owner of the Alibi Bar and Tino Talmi, VIP jeweller, with the joke being Talmi is a German word for cheap mass production jewellery. Nick himself was modelled after movie legend Hans Albers when he played Sherlock Holmes.
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All names on this page are possible in reality, but also wordplays

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Kombiniere: I totally did not expect an excerpt about Nick Knatterton in this thread when I started to scroll down.

Some good faps back in the days before internet was invented.

 

[Turret]

Kombiniere: I totally did not expect an excerpt about Nick Knatterton in this thread when I started to scroll down.

Some good faps back in the days before internet was invented.

Kombiniere: Good times! I was a little boy when the cartoon series aired first. Great fun, but a lot of the (thankfully complete politically incorrect) jokes and wordplays went over my head at that young age. Appreciated both comics and cartoons more when I got a bit older.
I simply had to give the non-German members a bit of background for the naming wordplays.

 

[ffive]

The tattoo removal I could definitely get behind, but don't touch her tits. That's too cruel a fate.

... You MONSTER!

Of all things in this world of debauchery....

Don't. Touch. The. TITS!

>_<;

Leave our favourites characters alone, please...

So many people wishing chronic back pains on the poor girl for their own gratification, smh.

 

[Khan merry]

Damn

So many people wishing chronic back pains on the poor girl for their own gratification, smh.

Bad bitch don't age, i'm not worried

 

[Whatever whenever]

Would it be too harsh to wish for the end of the game to be where the MC becomes the owner of this illegal empire and Hana is a perverted and drug-addled sex toy?

 

[ffive]

Would it be too harsh to wish for the end of the game to be where the MC becomes the owner of this illegal empire and Hana is a perverted and drug-addled sex toy?

Yes, very. You should feel ashamed next time you fap to this mental image. Almost as much as Edwin when he watches his mom's videos.

 

[Whatever whenever]

Yes, very. You should feel ashamed next time you fap to this mental image. Almost as much as Edwin when he watches his mom's videos.

 

[sunaboz]

Who do you think would be most rational choice for Edwin's long time partner?

1) Hana - while she's fan's favourite I don't think she would be a good choice in the long term, especially if Edwin would like to have a real family (with kids that is). Since her mother has Huntington's disease it is likely she will have it too (and even if not her then her children). She's also a criminal basically so there would always be a chance that she would end up in jail (it remains to be seen if she would be left alone once August would be gone and she would have sold her shares). And even though she doesn't have to worry about competition from other crime organisations while August lives, once he's gone she wouldn't have manpower or connections that he has (that could change of course but that would require her to break bad fully and even then she wouldn't be able to reach the status that August has).

2) Mina - now that's a good catch and the best candidate for Edwin IMO. Although I would prefer her to go back to Killian, from a logical point of view she would be the best choice. She's young, intelligent, has a brother (and a good brother-in-law is a treasure) and is steadily building up her career. She also comes from a fairly wealthy family which never hurts. She's a loyal partner too with not much experience (Ian and Edwin and that's it). I could elaborate further but I don't want to make this post a wall of text so I'll stop here.

3) Veronica - the worst choice of all the characters IMO. She's bisexual for starters (and skews towards women at that), with tendency to having many partners (she goes to the club to pick up girls regularly). She's also divorced, has short temper and has a huge debt.

4) Rose - as bad of a choice as Veronica, mainly because she has a kid so Edwin would always be someone much less precious to her. She's also not too bright, has a debt and in general is a very bad long-time partner material.

5) Felicia - even though she's my favourite character I don't think she would be the best choice, though out of all carnations she's the best candidate (but with the bar being so low that doesn't say much). She's intelligent, sophisticated, has no children of her own and has no debts for once. IIRC, she's the only one with higher education out of the people above (she's psychology major).

6) Sophia - she's super intelligent, beautiful, fairly young (younger than Veronica even) and is single. The problem is she seems to be fucked up in the head (at least from what we've seen so far). Still, out of all women that we've seen in PC she would be the best choice for a long time partner for Edwin (excluding Mina). The question is - would she even be interested in Edwin in that way?

7) Lucy - after Felicia the hottest character in the whole game IMO but when it comes to wife material she's less than optimal (mainly due to her having children).

I won't mention other prostitutes (like Andrea, who is sweet and super hot at the same time) or characters above forty (like Grace, who is my favourite MILF) since they are not the most logical choices (the heart wants what the heart wants, here I'm speculating who would be the best candidate on paper).

One of the things I took into account were hobbies and skills those women have and Hana and Sophia win this by far. On the other end of the spectrum is Veronica, it always cracks me up when she says she's a life coach . Oh, and thank you TD for adding the "Life coach?" option:

 

[Ottoeight]

As we all agreed at the end of a dispute some time ago, all the game characters - males and females - are damaged goods. So, the proper answer would be: none.
(anyway, Hana & Mina are the only available choices, in fact)

Buuuuuuut... since this is an erotic story, the real proper answer is: boobies!

 

[Idontplay]

Wrong! The real proper answer is: Ian!

 

[Elduriel]

Who do you think would be most rational choice for Edwin's long time partner?

1) Hana - while she's fan's favourite I don't think she would be a good choice in the long term, especially if Edwin would like to have a real family (with kids that is). Since her mother has Huntington's disease it is likely she will have it too (and even if not her then her children).

Hana doesn't have Huntington's, she told us straight on, so it's all good on that front. Kids won't have it either if the parents don't have the gene, and again, Hana doesn't.

 

[PervyParadox]

Who do you think would be most rational choice for Edwin's long time partner?

1) Hana - while she's fan's favourite I don't think she would be a good choice in the long term, especially if Edwin would like to have a real family (with kids that is). Since her mother has Huntington's disease it is likely she will have it too (and even if not her then her children). She's also a criminal basically so there would always be a chance that she would end up in jail (it remains to be seen if she would be left alone once August would be gone and she would have sold her shares). And even though she doesn't have to worry about competition from other crime organisations while August lives, once he's gone she wouldn't have manpower or connections that he has (that could change of course but that would require her to break bad fully and even then she wouldn't be able to reach the status that August has).

2) Mina - now that's a good catch and the best candidate for Edwin IMO. Although I would prefer her to go back to Killian, from a logical point of view she would be the best choice. She's young, intelligent, has a brother (and a good brother-in-law is a treasure) and is steadily building up her career. She also comes from a fairly wealthy family which never hurts. She's a loyal partner too with not much experience (Ian and Edwin and that's it). I could elaborate further but I don't want to make this post a wall of text so I'll stop here.

3) Veronica - the worst choice of all the characters IMO. She's bisexual for starters (and skews towards women at that), with tendency to having many partners (she goes to the club to pick up girls regularly). She's also divorced, has short temper and has a huge debt.

4) Rose - as bad of a choice as Veronica, mainly because she has a kid so Edwin would always be someone much less precious to her. She's also not too bright, has a debt and in general is a very bad long-time partner material.

5) Felicia - even though she's my favourite character I don't think she would be the best choice, though out of all carnations she's the best candidate (but with the bar being so low that doesn't say much). She's intelligent, sophisticated, has no children of her own and has no debts for once. IIRC, she's the only one with higher education out of the people above (she's psychology major).

6) Sophia - she's super intelligent, beautiful, fairly young (younger than Veronica even) and is single. The problem is she seems to be fucked up in the head (at least from what we've seen so far). Still, out of all women that we've seen in PC she would be the best choice for a long time partner for Edwin (excluding Mina). The question is - would she even be interested in Edwin in that way?

7) Lucy - after Felicia the hottest character in the whole game IMO but when it comes to wife material she's less than optimal (mainly due to her having children).

I won't mention other prostitutes (like Andrea, who is sweet and super hot at the same time) or characters above forty (like Grace, who is my favourite MILF) since they are not the most logical choices (the heart wants what the heart wants, here I'm speculating who would be the best candidate on paper).

One of the things I took into account were hobbies and skills those women have and Hana and Sophia win this by far. On the other end of the spectrum is Veronica, it always cracks me up when she says she's a life coach . Oh, and thank you TD for adding the "Life coach?" option:
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I mean, Hana AND Mina are clearly the most logical choice.

Hoping the "and" was subtle enough here, wink-wink.

 

[pinuz1]

Who do you think would be most rational choice for Edwin's long time partner?

1) Hana - while she's fan's favourite I don't think she would be a good choice in the long term, especially if Edwin would like to have a real family (with kids that is). Since her mother has Huntington's disease it is likely she will have it too (and even if not her then her children). She's also a criminal basically so there would always be a chance that she would end up in jail (it remains to be seen if she would be left alone once August would be gone and she would have sold her shares). And even though she doesn't have to worry about competition from other crime organisations while August lives, once he's gone she wouldn't have manpower or connections that he has (that could change of course but that would require her to break bad fully and even then she wouldn't be able to reach the status that August has).

Hana doesn't have huntington's disease, could she develop it later on? sure, but if she doesn't, her children wouldn't have anything to worry because neither of the 2 parents have it. Also, what in the actual fuck is that mentality — that because my girlfriend’s mother has a disease, she’s a “bad choice”? What a weird way to dehumanize someone.

Also, Edwin is basically already a criminal too then, given he's just as involved with the Club as Hana, so I don't see how that matters, it's even been mentioned how Hana can just sell her part to Kath and wash her own hands of the whole thing, which would prob give her a shit ton of money, and since your "rational" way of thinking about someone’s future long-term partner is apparently based on their assets rather than who they are, hey, rich goth girlfriend!

 

[Ottoeight]

Hana doesn't have huntington's disease, could she develop it later on? sure, but if she doesn't, her children wouldn't have anything to worry because neither of the 2 parents have it.

Well, no.

If you carry the defective gene, you are a dead person walking. If you don't carry the gene, you are a "normal" person like anybody else.

She clearly tells Edwin she is "safe".

Also, Edwin is basically already a criminal too then, given he's just as involved with the Club as Hana, so I don't see how that matters, it's even been mentioned how Hana can just sell her part to Kath and wash her own hands of the whole thing, which would prob give her a shit ton of money, and since your "rational" way of thinking about someone’s future long-term partner is apparently based on their assets rather than who they are, hey, rich goth girlfriend!

Hana's "heavy baggage" is her dad.

 

[Turret]

Who do you think would be most rational choice for Edwin's long time partner?

1) Hana - while she's fan's favourite I don't think she would be a good choice in the long term, especially if Edwin would like to have a real family (with kids that is). Since her mother has Huntington's disease it is likely she will have it too (and even if not her then her children). She's also a criminal basically so there would always be a chance that she would end up in jail (it remains to be seen if she would be left alone once August would be gone and she would have sold her shares). And even though she doesn't have to worry about competition from other crime organisations while August lives, once he's gone she wouldn't have manpower or connections that he has (that could change of course but that would require her to break bad fully and even then she wouldn't be able to reach the status that August has).

2) Mina - now that's a good catch and the best candidate for Edwin IMO. Although I would prefer her to go back to Killian, from a logical point of view she would be the best choice. She's young, intelligent, has a brother (and a good brother-in-law is a treasure) and is steadily building up her career. She also comes from a fairly wealthy family which never hurts. She's a loyal partner too with not much experience (Ian and Edwin and that's it). I could elaborate further but I don't want to make this post a wall of text so I'll stop here.

3) Veronica - the worst choice of all the characters IMO. She's bisexual for starters (and skews towards women at that), with tendency to having many partners (she goes to the club to pick up girls regularly). She's also divorced, has short temper and has a huge debt.

4) Rose - as bad of a choice as Veronica, mainly because she has a kid so Edwin would always be someone much less precious to her. She's also not too bright, has a debt and in general is a very bad long-time partner material.

5) Felicia - even though she's my favourite character I don't think she would be the best choice, though out of all carnations she's the best candidate (but with the bar being so low that doesn't say much). She's intelligent, sophisticated, has no children of her own and has no debts for once. IIRC, she's the only one with higher education out of the people above (she's psychology major).

6) Sophia - she's super intelligent, beautiful, fairly young (younger than Veronica even) and is single. The problem is she seems to be fucked up in the head (at least from what we've seen so far). Still, out of all women that we've seen in PC she would be the best choice for a long time partner for Edwin (excluding Mina). The question is - would she even be interested in Edwin in that way?

7) Lucy - after Felicia the hottest character in the whole game IMO but when it comes to wife material she's less than optimal (mainly due to her having children).

I won't mention other prostitutes (like Andrea, who is sweet and super hot at the same time) or characters above forty (like Grace, who is my favourite MILF) since they are not the most logical choices (the heart wants what the heart wants, here I'm speculating who would be the best candidate on paper).

One of the things I took into account were hobbies and skills those women have and Hana and Sophia win this by far. On the other end of the spectrum is Veronica, it always cracks me up when she says she's a life coach . Oh, and thank you TD for adding the "Life coach?" option:
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Hi sunaboz , thanks for your list! A few comments from me:

Hana - Hana does not have Huntington´s and cannot give it to her kids. It is a genetic defect, you have it or you don´t, you luckily cannot "aquire" it during your life. As for her being a criminal, I do not know the law situation where PC takes place, but in my country prostitution is legal.


Mina - good write up. As for Ian/Mina reunion, this might still happen if we get Ian to think about his future and behaviour and help those two.

Veronica - fully agree about her being the worst option. Not because of her sexual likes and dislikes, but her character traits like extremly stubborn and short fuse, are a clear no thank you. About her sexuality, the Veronica fans are most surely in for a proper "Strap-on Hallelujah" down the road if they tie the knot with her.


Felicia - definitely the best option among the Carnations for several reasons. And with her prenup out of the way one day, we can also make sure there are Feli and Eddy 2 in the making.



Sophia - Yes, I fully agree she is a super long term option and as the probably official leader of the Sophia Fan faction I hope we get a chance to get into a relationship with her, even if the way has to be quicker due to the ingame time. (But I think a lot of the long term stuff we will get in the epilogues for all LIs) It is a personal preference if you say she is eccentric or not right in the head. Thing is, over a certain level of intelligence you operate on several different parameters and it is not the question if you are eccentric, only the question of how strongly eccentric the genius is.

 

[nalgonas4ever]

Hi sunaboz , thanks for your list! A few comments from me:

Hana - Hana does not have Huntington´s and cannot give it to her kids. It is a genetic defect, you have it or you don´t, you luckily cannot "aquire" it during your life. As for her being a criminal, I do not know the law situation where PC takes place, but in my country prostitution is legal.
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Mina - good write up. As for Ian/Mina reunion, this might still happen if we get Ian to think about his future and behaviour and help those two.

Veronica - fully agree about her being the worst option. Not because of her sexual likes and dislikes, but her character traits like extremly stubborn and short fuse, are a clear no thank you. About her sexuality, the Veronica fans are most surely in for a proper "Strap-on Hallelujah" down the road if they tie the knot with her.
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Felicia - definitely the best option among the Carnations for several reasons. And with her prenup out of the way one day, we can also make sure there are Feli and Eddy 2 in the making.
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Sophia - Yes, I fully agree she is a super long term option and as the probably official leader of the Sophia Fan faction I hope we get a chance to get into a relationship with her, even if the way has to be quicker due to the ingame time. (But I think a lot of the long term stuff we will get in the epilogues for all LIs) It is a personal preference if you say she is eccentric or not right in the head. Thing is, over a certain level of intelligence you operate on several different parameters and it is not the question if you are eccentric, only the question of how strongly eccentric the genius is.
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True, as a Veronia fan I can understand all of those flaws and reasons why she's not the best option, but also I am delusional and believe she is just like that for the circumstances also If Wade Winston Wilson takes it in the ass then so can I.


BTW I find it fun that no one mention the true worst option that is Kathleen, and I would totally would choose her.