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VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

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slightchance said:
Kathleen is an awesome and (obviously) polarizing character. She fits right in.
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All this discussion proves that, why would people be wasting time discussing a bad or boring character.
Love or hate her she's a great character.
If she's the most evil character on the game or not I don't think we really know it, she's just frontloaded as the person doing nasty things to the carnations, hence most of the hate.
I really don't like her as a person but love her as a character/villain and think she really enhances the quality of the overall narrative.
 
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A lot of talk about my favorite hag Kathleen so as her self proclaim #1 enjoyer I think it's important to make some things clear like: She is a bad person, as far as we know every good thing she does is with a motive behind it, rember kindness without sincerity is manipulation. Theres some parts where we have seen something that seems like vulnerability, the scene where she got normal clothes comes to my mind, but even the visual language tells she always remains in control and superiority, never as an equal to the MC, and as the development goes I've seen the side of August they just want to have your slightly above aberage sex club with little scalation while my dear Kathleen wants to explore the depths of depravaty in a big scale for she lacks empathy as far as I've seen. My wishful thinking is to have and ending where the MC and her have their kingdom of lust and sadism happy happy... But my mind tells me the more realistic routes are eternal lackey or become a mindless bull.
 
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nalgonas4ever said:
A lot of talk about my favorite hag Kathleen so as her self proclaim #1 enjoyer I think it's important to make some things clear like: She is a bad person, as far as we know every good thing she does is with a motive behind it, rember kindness without sincerity is manipulation. Theres some parts where we have seen something that seems like vulnerability, the scene where she got normal clothes comes to my mind, but even the visual language tells she always remains in control and superiority, never as an equal to the MC, and as the development goes I've seen the side of August they just want to have your slightly above aberage sex club with little scalation while my dear Kathleen wants to explore the depths of depravaty in a big scale for she lacks empathy as far as I've seen. My wishful thinking is to have and ending where the MC and her have their kingdom of lust and sadism happy happy... But my mind tells me the more realistic routes are eternal lackey or become a mindless bull.
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I would like to see a club where the younger generation takes over completely and make it more decent. Throw out all the old farts. Treat everyone better. Some of the whores actually like what they do. Its like everything in life you get more out of people if you treat them with decency
 
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since were on the topic of how bad kathleen is, i wanna point out shes the only one that values edwin. angust clearly doesnt trust edwin. he only tolerates him becuz of his connection to chuck and his daughter. and chuck is trying too hard to look like a reliable uncle. with the current update, we find out how full of shit he is and is just playing the long game with edwin

kathleen, on the other hand, she likes edwin becuz of his contribution to the carnation and how skillful he is at it. she even rewards him for it if he satisfies her with the result. you can argue that this is just her trying to sink her claws in on edwin, but i dont see it that way at all. judging from her dialogues with edwin, she sounds like she trusts him to an extent, at least in the club. while kathleen is cruel in her game, she may be the only one edwin can rely on. though, she is the one with least power in the club out of the 3
 
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GigglingCock said:
since were on the topic of how bad kathleen is, i wanna point out shes the only one that values edwin. angust clearly doesnt trust edwin. he only tolerates him becuz of his connection to chuck and his daughter. and chuck is trying too hard to look like a reliable uncle. with the current update, we find out how full of shit he is and is just playing the long game with edwin

kathleen, on the other hand, she likes edwin becuz of his contribution to the carnation and how skillful he is at it. she even rewards him for it if he satisfies her with the result. you can argue that this is just her trying to sink her claws in on edwin, but i dont see it that way at all. judging from her dialogues with edwin, she sounds like she trusts him to an extent, at least in the club. while kathleen is cruel in her game, she may be the only one edwin can rely on. though, she is the one with least power in the club out of the 3
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You see it, guys?

Just like I told ya. :sneaky:



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i wanna point out shes the only one that values edwin. angust clearly doesnt trust edwin. he only tolerates him becuz of his connection to chuck and his daughter. and chuck is trying too hard to look like a reliable uncle.
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NOT in the least.

It 1000% totally depends on your gameplay and your choices.

Chuck, Kath and August have variable points, just like Ian and Warren and Samson and Jacob.

August, Chuck, Jacob, Warren and Samson have friendship score. When August and Chuck's points are very high, then they trust you.

Not sure whether you can trigger August's trust yet, though.

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since were on the topic of how bad kathleen is, i wanna point out shes the only one that values edwin. angust clearly doesnt trust edwin. he only tolerates him becuz of his connection to chuck and his daughter. and chuck is trying too hard to look like a reliable uncle. with the current update, we find out how full of shit he is and is just playing the long game with edwin

kathleen, on the other hand, she likes edwin becuz of his contribution to the carnation and how skillful he is at it. she even rewards him for it if he satisfies her with the result. you can argue that this is just her trying to sink her claws in on edwin, but i dont see it that way at all. judging from her dialogues with edwin, she sounds like she trusts him to an extent, at least in the club. while kathleen is cruel in her game, she may be the only one edwin can rely on. though, she is the one with least power in the club out of the 3
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Sorry, but that is very dependent on how you play the game. For instance, August might learn to like and trust you. In my "canon" playthroughs, August definitely likes my Edwin and is on the way to trust him. (Ninja´ed by Otto:) )
 
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InsaneINC said:
I would like to see a club where the younger generation takes over completely and make it more decent. Throw out all the old farts. Treat everyone better. Some of the whores actually like what they do. Its like everything in life you get more out of people if you treat them with decency
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Based on the society they're in I can say there's no room for that kind of decency, many people here have opinions about how to treat sex workers but this is not quite the place to disscuss such terms, what I do understand not wanting the Kathleen directions where the girls would become mindless drones akin to sexdolls or not cathering to people like the gorilla lackey (forgot his name and don't care to look for it) that delights in making them physically suffer.
 
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GigglingCock said:
since were on the topic of how bad kathleen is, i wanna point out shes the only one that values edwin. angust clearly doesnt trust edwin. he only tolerates him becuz of his connection to chuck and his daughter. and chuck is trying too hard to look like a reliable uncle. with the current update, we find out how full of shit he is and is just playing the long game with edwin

kathleen, on the other hand, she likes edwin becuz of his contribution to the carnation and how skillful he is at it. she even rewards him for it if he satisfies her with the result. you can argue that this is just her trying to sink her claws in on edwin, but i dont see it that way at all. judging from her dialogues with edwin, she sounds like she trusts him to an extent, at least in the club. while kathleen is cruel in her game, she may be the only one edwin can rely on. though, she is the one with least power in the club out of the 3
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That's the beauty of this game, many of us here have had different readings because our choices differ, I don't know if by the end we could all agree on a "canon" playthrough and I could even say that defeats the porpouse of the game because this caracters are written in a way where you may need a bunch of playthroughs to get a more complete picture of them. Many people have disagree on you with August and I also would have to repeat that my sweet hag monster Kathleen, she practically has a whole report on him and his mother and as the kind of woman she is for me it's more likely she is using the right words to say and things to do in order to use him for a conquest of the club and it's clear why, the MC has the posibility to control Hana and through that take an advantage on August, seems like Chuck wants him to take his place. He is a powerful piece in that game, why wouln't she give him what he craves? It cost her next to nothing and she might even enjoy it, but it's not for him, all means to and end. And even after saying all that I still want my happy ending with her because I love older women.
 
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That's the beauty of this game, many of us here have had different readings because our choices differ, I don't know if by the end we could all agree on a "canon" playthrough and I could even say that defeats the porpouse of the game because this caracters are written in a way where you may need a bunch of playthroughs to get a more complete picture of them. Many people have disagree on you with August and I also would have to repeat that my sweet hag monster Kathleen, she practically has a whole report on him and his mother and as the kind of woman she is for me it's more likely she is using the right words to say and things to do in order to use him for a conquest of the club and it's clear why, the MC has the posibility to control Hana and through that take an advantage on August, seems like Chuck wants him to take his place. He is a powerful piece in that game, why wouln't she give him what he craves? It cost her next to nothing and she might even enjoy it, but it's not for him, all means to and end. And even after saying all that I still want my happy ending with her because I love older women.
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You should change your name from nalgonas4ever to olderwomen4ever :KEK:
 
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