VN Ren'Py Pale Carnations [Ch.4 Up.6 Public] [Mutt & Jeff]

[AeroHotshot]

As someone who does fan made character sculpting for a different adult game I can definately tell the details of each face and even bodies that you designed for PC. Maybe there are few cases of characters blending together (Victoria and Rosa for me) but overall the variety is there. Aside from that I am amazed about the graphics. Other HS games in comparison look like potato. I can only guess it must be some custom shaders injected in, perhaps with ReShade and some Ray Tracing?

The similarities between Vicky and Rosalind are very much so on purpose though. Rosalind is practically the "not really incest" stand-in. A lot more tasteful than the generic landlady shit. There's even a variable, that as of yet is unused, where the MC explicitly states this (roseHelpMom, in case you also like poking around the code).

 

[penzor]

why does the Abel guy look like Old Solid Snake?

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[topsykretts89]

Gallery Unlocker for Pale Carnations-Ch4Up6-pc.

To unlock the gallery for the game, please copy the attached file into the "game" folder.
This solution worked for my configuration; use it at your own risk.

when i click the file, it just opens another tab with all the script. obviously i can copy/paste, but where to?

 

[lustforsex]

I think the discussion about the diversity of characters' appearances has already run its course, but I would add that citing DAZ games as an example of HS games is, in my opinion, very stupid.

It's fair to compare games with different visual engines based on their story, writing, music, sound effects, and the usability/uniqueness of their menus. But if you decide to play a game knowing it's being developed with a visual engine you don't particularly like, and then automatically downgrade it because of it... there's nothing to say. Or maybe this is the first HS game someone has played? Who knows.

On the other hand, when people can't cite other games with the same visual engine as examples and compare them, that says something. I think that's a good compliment

 

[Discrepancy]

I think the discussion about the diversity of characters' appearances has already run its course, but I would add that citing DAZ games as an example of HS games is, in my opinion, very stupid.

It's fair to compare games with different visual engines based on their story, writing, music, sound effects, and the usability/uniqueness of their menus. But if you decide to play a game knowing it's being developed with a visual engine you don't particularly like, and then automatically downgrade it because of it... there's nothing to say. Or maybe this is the first HS game someone has played? Who knows.

On the other hand, when people can't cite other games with the same visual engine as examples and compare them, that says something. I think that's a good compliment

Agree and I might add that Pale Carnations looks better than most HS2 games IMO.

 

[Ozymandias037]

There is another aspect to this as well: campaign financing in the US is pretty much just legalized and organized corruption by now. Sure, if you are rich enough you can tell them "Nah, I don't want that million dollars". But what then most likely happens next is that the same million dollars end up in the pockets of whoever is running against you.

After all, the most important part of buying an election is that it leaves whoever you bought in charge. Or "in charge", as the case may be. Whatever politics they claim to have is at best a secondary consideration.

Oh, but it's so much worse than that, because there are a whole bunch of corporations and other donors that give liberally to politicians in both major parties, just to hedge their bets and make sure that no matter who wins, they still have at least a couple of people who feel obliged to take their calls.

But before I take this TOO far off topic, I'll bring it back and say that this kind of "no matter who wins, I win," playing-both-sides mentality is exactly what I'd expect of the sort of clientele that belong to the club, and it is certainly a factor in them trying to buy Elias. The connections and influence that flow through the club are at least as valuable as the money.

No thing, I get you! I see why Rosi fans think so. I have a theory that it is also part of story telling structure. If you look at the main LIs, their storylines are told in differing vibes and consistently over the run of the game. In Rosi´s case it might be to strengthen the similarity to Vicki, the dichtomy of her. but that is just a theory, I do not know if it is true.

Personally, I think you're a million percent correct here. The parallels between Rose and Vicky are far too strong to ignore, and that's not even considering the massive mom-energy Rose has.

 

[sunaboz]

Agree and I might add that Pale Carnations looks better than most HS2 games IMO.

Most? Name one HS2 game which looks better. Definitely not Eternum.

 

[Discrepancy]

Most? Name one HS2 game which looks better. Definitely not Eternum.

Yeah, I didn't wanted to say better than all, cause I'm not sure, haven't tried them all, for what I played from Eternum, it wasn't much I must confess, I did not find it that good looking (or a good game ) .

 

[torpedogoat]

Most? Name one HS2 game which looks better. Definitely not Eternum.

Clearly that's just as subjective as the eternal HS vs Daz debate. I suspect that it's mostly the Daz fans that prefer this game's distinctive HS style over the more regular good HS graphics. Because for me it's the other way round, and for me Daz ranges from hideous to barely tolerable, whereas HS ranges from grotesque to supreme, with this game in the top half but not very far up there.

 

[Discrepancy]

Clearly that's just as subjective as the eternal HS vs Daz debate. I suspect that it's mostly the Daz fans that prefer this game's distinctive HS style over the more regular good HS graphics. Because for me it's the other way round, and for me Daz ranges from hideous to barely tolerable, whereas HS ranges from grotesque to supreme, with this game in the top half but not very far up there.

Could be, I prefer Daz in general, and Pale Carnations uses realistic skin textures more comparable with good daz games than some HS games that skins look more doll like.
And as you said this is subjective I agree. But saying DAZ looks tolerable at best is surelly a take

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Definitely not Eternum.

for what I played from Eternum, it wasn't much I must confess, I did not find it that good looking (or a good game ) .

You are shameless

 

[Meabe37]

for what I played from Eternum, it wasn't much I must confess, I did not find it that good looking (or a good game ) .

I though you were a well educated nice gentleman. I'm disappointed to find out i was wrong.

Because for me it's the other way round, and for me Daz ranges from hideous to barely tolerable, whereas HS ranges from grotesque to supreme, with this game in the top half but not very far up there.

This whole take is ridiculously wrong. The visual range of both DAZ and HS are the same and if you say otherwise, i will just catalogue you as prob just another blind fanatic tbh. I can find objectively, for both, games that i would ranked as hideous and others as "supreme" in terms of visuals. PC and Eternum are both on this side and at the very top, no question.

 

[Michkooo]

Any update where we see Dalia naked is a good update in my book.

We didn't fuck her but at least I could watch

 

[Ozymandias037]

Personally, I tend to like DAZ visuals better than HS ones, but you'll never hear me say that HS games are too samey or that they can't look good. They absolutely can. And GIL is a wizard, so the women in PC (in my opinion) don't at all look the same -- I find a lot of variety in body type, muscle tone (or lack thereof), boob size and shape (although nobody here is part of the IBTC), facial features, and more. But I do think DAZ has a bigger potential for variety, especially with faces.

That being said, a wider range doesn't mean it's better. The ceiling might be higher (in my opinion for my own tastes) in DAZ, but the floor is also lower. And bad DAZ falls way farther into uncanny valley creepiness than bad HS does.

 

[recoba]

when i click the file, it just opens another tab with all the script. obviously i can copy/paste, but where to?

Try this

 

[Discrepancy]

Personally, I tend to like DAZ visuals better than HS ones, but you'll never hear me say that HS games are too samey or that they can't look good. They absolutely can. And GIL is a wizard, so the women in PC (in my opinion) don't at all look the same -- I find a lot of variety in body type, muscle tone (or lack thereof), facial features, and more. But I do think DAZ has a bigger potential for variety, especially with faces.

That being said, a wider range doesn't mean it's better. The ceiling might be higher (in my opinion for my own tastes) in DAZ, but the floor is also lower. And bad DAZ falls way farther into uncanny valley creepiness than bad HS does.

Agree, specially your second paragraph, and it's also true for animations, dunno if HS has a decent built-in animation engine, but there's lots of decent looking DAZ games with mediocre animations, but HS games tend to have better baseline animations, at least for the games I tried/played.

 

[Beduin123]

Ozymandias037 left out the fact that politicians can also be broke and pretend to own more money than they actually do. This isn't the case with Elias though, unless all the information we know about him is false. A thousand is to a millionaire what a million is to a billionaire. Let that sink in. Why would he take the money and make himself vulnerable. Is he not only gullible but stupid? But yeah, enough about that. The point of the scene was to inform us that he can be bought. In that it succeeded.

A million is a million and I don't think Elias is THAT rich to simply decline it.
Well, I don't know how else to educate you about the obvious facts that it is how the political system works and I don't want to waste my time anyway. Sorry.

that particular sex pose was something special to Sophia.

If you have noticed, Lucy is also being railed by the MC in the same pose. Which didn't appear in this game until this update. 3 scenes in this update are in this pose. But I wouldn't put much philosophy into that. My impression was that the Devs just wanted to save some time by putting different models onto the same game mechanics. I don't know how the rendering process goes but this is strange that this rare and rather physically demanding pose is used three times in a row.

 

[Garen]

I don't know who's got the taste for armpit licking between GIL and TD1900 but I see you and appreciate you.

Give me a taste of Rose's armpits and I'll die a happy man.

 

[Discrepancy]

Any update where we see Dalia naked is a good update in my book.

We didn't fuck her but at least I could watch

Yeah, on the orgy I was pretty sure it would happen but it didn't

I don't know who's got the taste for armpit licking between GIL and TD1900 but I see you and appreciate you.

Give me a taste of Rose's armpits and I'll die a happy man.

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I only saw the Mina scene and was hot, had to go watch the Lucy one soon.
Not related, but since we talking about fetishes, I was wondering, am I wrong or there isn't a single anal scene yet? There's the tag, but I only remember dildos insertions not Edwin fucking any girl in the ass, hope that is rectified soon

 

[shroomify]

Yeah, on the orgy I was pretty sure it would happen but it didn't

I only saw the Mina scene and was hot, had to go watch the Lucy one soon.
Not related, but since we talking about fetishes, I was wondering, am I wrong or there isn't a single anal scene yet? There's the tag, but I only remember dildos insertions not Edwin fucking any girl in the ass, hope that is rectified soon

the BDSM scene with Victoria at MC's apartment is anal.