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I wouldn't count on it since the first game had unavoidable NTR and if you dislike NTR in any form or capacity I don't see the point in playing this game knowing full well NTR occures in the 1st game and from what I've heard and read the first game is primarily NTR focuses as the boyfriend has a submissive stat and the girlfriend has a Corruption stat.... According to dev notes in the first game there was going to be a domination stat for boyfriend and another state for the girlfriend that was loyalty or love or something but it got scrapped because the dev likes making NTR games I guess
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Fetishes and sex scenes this update: Impregnation, Lesbians, Submission, Vaginal, Strap-on, Blowjob, Handjob, Voyeurism & NTR (optional), Foot Fetish, French Kissing

The last update goes right against what you said, NTR is optional. I do believe it was also optional in the first game too. Some of it might have been forced through blackmail, I can't remember I would need to replay it.

Honestly the only thing I'm disappointed in is they haven't found each other yet and started to work things out. Also, Ellie is sliding down a deep hole and you have no control to stop it. The choices in this VN seems very limited versus the other one, a lot less options to say no to something.

But the Dev has a vision and for now I, for one, have no problem following that.
Keep up the great work.
 

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I wish we had more options still. Nadia and her daughter are too accepting when it comes to whoring themselves out, or are at least rarely challenged anymore. The option to make the client drunk, for example, does exactly what was foretold. And since he doesn't even try to convince Nadia to drink also the scene just ends with her leaving instead of having a tipsy Nadia making slutty decisions.
 

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I wish we had more options still. Nadia and her daughter are too accepting when it comes to whoring themselves out, or are at least rarely challenged anymore. The option to make the client drunk, for example, does exactly what was foretold. And since he doesn't even try to convince Nadia to drink also the scene just ends with her leaving instead of having a tipsy Nadia making slutty decisions.
Yeah same here, while I understand Nadia, she's a nympho, would whore herself out like crazy. Then I would understand Ellie following in the footsteps of her mom; I do wish we had a bit more control over things myself. Like stopping Ellie, or rejecting tricks for Nadia.

I thought the second part would be about them reconnecting and working through their problems. What it has really turned into at this point is two different stories packed into one. I mean if he's not going to find them or something along those lines I would rather that part of the story be dropped so the focus can more on to Nadia and Ellie.
 

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is there any patch where rejecting the gross ass neighbor doesn't lock out the lesbian scenes? extremely annoying that you have to whore out to disgusting pigs just to see Ellie eat some cunt.
 
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The last update goes right against what you said, NTR is optional. I do believe it was also optional in the first game too. Some of it might have been forced through blackmail, I can't remember I would need to replay it.
If by "optional" you mean getting locked out of 99% of all subsequent sex scenes for that character, sure it's "optional"
 

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is there any patch where rejecting the gross ass neighbor doesn't lock out the lesbian scenes? extremely annoying that you have to whore out to disgusting pigs just to see Ellie eat some cunt.
just fast forward those scenes lol, that is what I do when I don't like something.
 

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v0.28

Fetishes and sex scenes this update: Impregnation, Lesbians, Submission, Vaginal, Strap-on, Blowjob, Handjob, Voyeurism & NTR (optional), Foot Fetish, French Kissing

The last update goes right against what you said, NTR is optional. I do believe it was also optional in the first game too. Some of it might have been forced through blackmail, I can't remember I would need to replay it.

Honestly the only thing I'm disappointed in is they haven't found each other yet and started to work things out. Also, Ellie is sliding down a deep hole and you have no control to stop it. The choices in this VN seems very limited versus the other one, a lot less options to say no to something.

But the Dev has a vision and for now I, for one, have no problem following that.
Keep up the great work.
Yeah at this point I feel like the dev doesn't even know where to go with their story. We are so far in, and MC and FMC still haven't met let alone he meets his daughter. Like I get the MC tag, but he gets almost no scenes, at least in his first game had they both somewhat had equal scene not really sure where this is going. Almost seems like the dev is doing content based on his Pateron support.
 

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Yeah at this point I feel like the dev doesn't even know where to go with their story. We are so far in, and MC and FMC still haven't met let alone he meets his daughter. Like I get the MC tag, but he gets almost no scenes, at least in his first game had they both somewhat had equal scene not really sure where this is going. Almost seems like the dev is doing content based on his Pateron support.
If the dev keeps going like this, the “MC” (male protagonist) will meet his daughter too late, and she will be a nymphomaniacal slut, pregnant with her second neighbor’s child, and in a romantic relationship with her mother.

Honestly, not where I thought the sequel would go. I expected more of a struggle for Nadia to keep Ellie on the straight path, to avoid becoming a single mother like her.
 

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If the dev keeps going like this, the “MC” (male protagonist) will meet his daughter too late, and she will be a nymphomaniacal slut, pregnant with her second neighbor’s child, and in a romantic relationship with her mother.

Honestly, not where I thought the sequel would go. I expected more of a struggle for Nadia to keep Ellie on the straight path, to avoid becoming a single mother like her.
Now it's not a fact that Ellie is pregnant with her first child, but there actually a big chance since she had unprotected sex so many times. And after a full night of sex with Larry, Ellie mistakenly used an antibiotic instead of contraceptives.

And it will be interesting if someone from Ellie's acquaintances from school sees her in a black hooker suit. It will be interesting to see more interesting sex scenes with Ellie before she will find that pregnant.

For Nadia, it is too late to start struggle, if by the player chose, Ellie chose the path of debauchery and does not know how to use contraception. And Nadia doesn't even know Ellie had sex.
 
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Now it's not a fact that Ellie is pregnant with her first child, but there actually a big chance since she had unprotected sex so many times. And after a full night of sex with Larry, Ellie mistakenly used an antibiotic instead of contraceptives.

And it will be interesting if someone from Ellie's acquaintances from school sees her in a black hooker suit. It will be interesting to see more interesting sex scenes with Ellie before she will find that pregnant.
I wasn't trying to suggest that Ellie is already pregnant with Larry's baby, just that by the time the male protagonist actually gets to meet his daughter in-game, she's gonna look like "trailer trash", with a bunch of Larry's kids running around.
 

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If the dev keeps going like this, the “MC” (male protagonist) will meet his daughter too late, and she will be a nymphomaniacal slut, pregnant with her second neighbor’s child, and in a romantic relationship with her mother.

Honestly, not where I thought the sequel would go. I expected more of a struggle for Nadia to keep Ellie on the straight path, to avoid becoming a single mother like her.
The fact the Nadia will fuck anything with a pulse after having a child to take care of and raise is getting bit old.
I mean she is a hooker/call girl/escort and they can afford to pay their rent and stuff? Which makes Ellie start fucking the ugly ass neighbor to help out with bills. All that after she sees him perving on her mother.
It is just starting to not make a lot of sense.
I would guess the dude knows he has a child by Nadia ( I can't remember I need to reply the first one ), yet he's in no hurry to get to her or find them?
This has become a story of a mother and daughter who will fuck anything and everything with out much question. Oh I didn't expect your friend, but it's ok I'll fuck you both. Oh, my neighbor wants a fuck sure no problem.
Ellie fucks to get paid to help with rent/bills, later he just says, thought we could just have sex, 'Ok, sure why not.' 'I'm thinking of how you would look pregnant.' 'Cool cum in me...'. So, now she doesn't even need paid... Oh thanks for coming over this is my brother fuck us both! Yeah sounds fun, wait here is my old ass father fuck him too, Ok... Really?
It's a story that should just show them both on their backs with a line of people at their door.

A lot of the control you have had over the the story is just gone, used to be able to say no and such, now it's just forced scene after forced scene. More like a Kenetic novel...

I figured the second part would be about reconnection once he got out and about Nadia struggling to clean up her act while protecting Ellie. Nadia doesn't even hide her shit from her daughter by not doing it in the house or anything.

Anyway I'll keep following it in the hopes the story start to turn a corner, but I doubt it will based on what's going on right now in it. Honestly I would like more options to stop Ellie and Nadia, it's just starting to feel like every other VN out there.
 
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The fact the Nadia will fuck anything with a pulse after having a child to take care of and raise is getting bit old.
I mean she is a hooker/call girl/escort and they can afford to pay their rent and stuff? Which makes Ellie start fucking the ugly ass neighbor to help out with bills. All that after she sees him perving on her mother.
It is just starting to not make a lot of sense.
I would guess the dude knows he has a child by Nadia ( I can't remember I need to reply the first one ), yet he's in no hurry to get to her or find them?
This has become a story of a mother and daughter who will fuck anything and everything with out much question. Oh I didn't expect your friend, but it's ok I'll fuck you both. Oh, my neighbor wants a fuck sure no problem.
Ellie fucks to get paid to help with rent/bills, later he just says, thought we could just have sex, 'Ok, sure why not.' 'I'm thinking of how you would look pregnant.' 'Cool cum in me...'. So, now she doesn't even need paid... Oh thanks for coming over this is my brother fuck us both! Yeah sounds fun, wait here is my old ass father fuck him too, Ok... Really?
It's a story that should just show them both on their backs with a line of people at their door.

A lot of the control you have had over the the story is just gone, used to be able to say no and such, now it's just forced scene after forced scene. More like a Kenetic novel...

I figured the second part would be about reconnection once he got out and about Nadia struggling to clean up her act while protecting Ellie. Nadia doesn't even hide her shit from her daughter by not doing it in the house or anything.

Anyway I'll keep following it in the hopes the story start to turn a corner, but I doubt it will based on what's going on right now in it. Honestly I would like more options to stop Ellie and Nadia, it's just starting to feel like every other VN out there.
Agree. On. Every. Single. Word.

Ellie is well on her way of becoming a turbo-slut, an even bigger one than Nadia was in the first part.
And Nadia doesn't even give a fuck about trying to protect Ellie from that kind of life, she even walks around naked, fresh from some fucking where she also gets creampied (for fuck sake, the little "flashback" Nadia can have in the tub shows how she repeatedly sucked off a fat ass store manager just to earn more money... while 8 months pregnant with Ellie. No wonder Ellie has such an affinity for swallowing, her mother basically force fed her cum while in the womb).

And then we have Ellie, afraid of getting knocked up by her neighbour - but in the very next encounter with him, is suddenly fantasizing about carrying Larry's baby.

And for all of you that want to say "well you don't have to let Ellie have sex with Larry, it is avoidable!", sure, it is... If I was only interested in seeing lesbian scenes. But instead of giving Ellie a proper male love interest, she is either a turbo-slut or a lesbian.

Terrible choices, and at this point, I am just sticking around to watch what happens to this trainwreck.
 
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I wasn't trying to suggest that Ellie is already pregnant with Larry's baby, just that by the time the male protagonist actually gets to meet his daughter in-game, she's gonna look like "trailer trash", with a bunch of Larry's kids running around.
Not small of chances that Ellie is already pregnant from Larry. But my opinion, that you are exaggerate.
 
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Agree. On. Every. Single. Word.

Ellie is well on her way of becoming a turbo-slut, an even bigger one than Nadia was in the first part.
And Nadia doesn't even give a fuck about trying to protect Ellie from that kind of life, she even walks around naked, fresh from some fucking where she also gets creampied (for fuck sake, the little "flashback" Nadia can have in the tub shows how she repeatedly sucked off a fat ass store manager just to earn more money... while 8 months pregnant with Ellie. No wonder Ellie has such an affinity for swallowing, her mother basically force fed her cum while in the womb).

And then we have Ellie, afraid of getting knocked up by her neighbour - but in the very next encounter with him, is suddenly fantasizing about carrying Larry's baby.

And for all of you that want to say "well you don't have to let Ellie have sex with Larry, it is avoidable!", sure, it is... If I was only interested in seeing lesbian scenes. But instead of giving Ellie a proper male love interest, she is either a turbo-slut or a lesbian.

Terrible choices, and at this point, I am just sticking around to watch what happens to this trainwreck.
Yeah, I agree.
I was wrong on one point, she told him to not cum inside when he was talking about her getting pregnant, he did it anyway. So, she does care about that. Oh and he does pay her too.
This story fell off the rails, should be about redemption and getting their life right.
A dad that doesn't even care to find his daughter and wife (ex?)
A mother who could careless who she fucks and what she exposes her daughter too.
A daughter who has a friend who is corrupting her, and I would think that is based on knowing Ellie's mother is a straight up whore, and a neighbor who is taking advantage of her and her mother and they both let him. I do understand Larry can be avoided, but really, I'm surprised Ellie isn't getting pounded by her mom's tricks since she has a lot of them in house.

Like I said it's turned into a VN with little to no choices and all about how much dick all the girls can get. A race to see who get's knocked up first and pounded the hardest. Why even have the Father/Husband in the game at all?

Each to their own, it is after all the Dev's story to tell, we're just along for the ride. I just expected something else, but this is ok too, I like watching train wrecks.
 
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Yeah, I agree.
I was wrong on one point, she told him to not cum inside when he was talking about her getting pregnant, he did it anyway. So, she does care about that. Oh and he does pay her too.
This story fell off the rails, should be about redemption and getting their life right.
A dad that doesn't even care to find his daughter and wife (ex?)
A mother who could careless who she fucks and what she exposes her daughter too.
A daughter who has a friend who is corrupting her, and I would think that is based on knowing Ellie's mother is a straight up whore, and a neighbor who is taking advantage of her and her mother and they both let him. I do understand Larry can be avoided, but really, I'm surprised Ellie isn't getting pounded by her mom's tricks since she has a lot of them in house.

Like I said it's turned into a VN with little to no choices and all about how much dick all the girls can get. A race to see who get's knocked up first and pounded the hardest. Why even have the Father/Husband in the game at all?

Each to their own, it is after all the Dev's story to tell, we're just along for the ride. I just expected something else, but this is ok too, I like watching train wrecks.
Yes. Larry finished inside Ellie last time. But Nadia unaware about their relationship.

No fact that Ellie is Eugene daughter. Nadia have cheated on him very often. Nadia also doesn't even care to find Eugene.
 
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Yes. Larry finished inside Ellie last time. But Nadia unaware about their relationship.

No fact that Ellie is Eugene daughter. Nadia have cheated on him very often. Nadia also doesn't even care to find Eugene.
See, on my ending Eugene is the father. There wasn't very much cheating in my play through, they got married and while they were on their honeymoon she discovers she's pregnant, after he gets arrested.
My ending she was still in love with him and forgave him, she was then whisked away to witness protection.

It's one of the problems with the endings, some do not fit with the second chapter.

You have ending where she's not with him at all. Endings where she loves him still and wants to be with him. So, in some endings Ellie is his, others probably not his.

What does fit, as I went back to Season 1, is Eugene never knew she was pregnant. So he is unaware of having a child, in my ending at least.

It's like, Season 1 set the tone for the story, but no matter how you ended the story it has no bearing on season 2.
There's an ending where the guy tells her they will make a ton of money because she'll be fucked by 30 - 40 guys a day. Doesn't fit into season 2 because at the end she was 100% happy to do that.

I'm starting to see season 2 more of a what if story, Eugene gets thrown in jail, she has to take care of herself. They never resolved their problems and she's pregnant by Eugene. (Just me as I prefer to think Eugene is the father)

You can't have multiple different ending and try to fit it into a season 2 without multiple starting paths. This is why most VNs that are going to have another season, do not have multiple ending or have them all segway into the same result (just getting there is different).

But again, I do enjoy the story as long as I look at it as separate from the first season.

It's the Dev's baby they can write it however they want, I'm sure they have plans.
 
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First of all, I want to thank the developer of the game.

I definitely don't want to be misunderstood in my suggestions, I just want to share my own opinion instead of giving advice.

But I would be very happy if the developer thinks about it.

As for the subject.
In some scenes of the play, even in most scenes, I almost feel that some sex scenes like this are cut, for example, Ellie is walking to school with her friend, we see Larry push her out of the way, and then larry and ellie jump into a sex scene, almost some scenes like this.

imagine as if you were writing a storybook, the main part and skeleton of this story consists of introduction, development and conclusion, so it would be perfect if the scenes in the game were written and drawn as introduction to the event, development of events and consequences of events.

My next thought is that there should be enriched sex categories in this game, if these happen, I can't be the only one who thinks this game will be a very nice game in future updates, right? :) The fact is that it is really well thought out to have 3 main characters in this game, so there is no doubt that it will be a longer game than the first game in terms of story richness.

For example, if the playing time of the first game is +15 hours, I get the idea that this game should take longer, and we are still at the very beginning of the story, don't be surprised if we see +150s :giggle:This is a really high-potential project.

There is a lot to be written and drawn in terms of characters and plot.

As for my other idea, it may be more creative to have options such as anal offers or urine requests, provocative requests, because there may be some nelson-type sex positions, for example, dog positions, 69, cowboy or reverse cowboy, there are countless sex positions like this.

It can be very boring if there are the same positions in every scene.

Therefore, in some special scenes, different poses and requests can be used from scene to scene, for example, there are various positions that are more creative according to the number of people the character is with, so if we encounter multiple questions, this way the game becomes mysterious and mysterious.

A perfect masterpiece and a game that will make it more fun, sensual, and the developer's throne will turn into a game that will not be easily overthrown.

The game can be beautiful, but as I said, it can also be perfect, the game story is very beautiful, I really like it, I am extremely confident that the developer will make the game story more perfectly binding, more creative and realistic, in short, this formula is ---- excellent story + category richness + multiple options rich sex position options = and a game and developer that has not been dethroned for years :)
 
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