f9account
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Sounds like it'd be easier to just make a fresh sidescroller than to modify this one.
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If you manage to draw decent sprites then I can offer to add them and write code in the game for you, at least. Sponsoring is not entirely out of the question but you will have to share some seriously good art first, keep in mind all modders in this thread do that as a hobby and get 0$ in return, so it is very unlikely that anybody would be willing to pay something, let alone pay something fair. Animations of this style are typically worth several hundreds $ per animation which I doubt anybody would offer.
The good news is that if you become able to replicate PIC's artstyle, then you will probably be able to live of your art anyway because this kind of artists are very rare. It seems like you're just starting though, so probably better to keep your hopes low. If I can give you one tip, I think nowadays artists don't draw that kind of animations by hand, they first render it in a 3d software like Blender, then pixelize it and manually edit it. Also forget about AI, it is both bad at replicating someone else's pixel art, and bad at animating it.
Not sure where you got that impression. This game is easy to mod by most standards and is a good way to start. Download UMT, open any modded version of PIC, and import your sprite, that's it. Several people have made mods here adding new sprites. I shared a wave zombie mod with new weapon and sounds about 20 pages earlier.
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It’s really not. The backgrounds are in the sprite sheets, so you just need to export the sheets that contain the backgrounds you wanna edit, work on the extracted PNG file then reimport it back all with UMT. Same thing with the SFX too: extract, edit then reimport, or maybe just import directly without extracting if you already have something to replace it.
Now except if you’re looking to actually add things and not just change already existing stuff, then you might need to modify the code a bit (not really hard but that might scare beginners)
I want to give it a go.
I am not on the level of PIC's artwork, but reckon it is not impossible to create a few animation loops at the game's level of quality with the right setup and enough time.
I already tried setting up references in Poser and can export them into blender to get accurate lighting and shadows (I suspect Pixel Factory did something similiar with a 3D editor, as you pointed out, as their shadows are on point).
Once happy with the animation loop in 3D I will redraw the frames in Photoshop. The 3D models will serve as references, but, obviously, clothes, hair and other bits will be drawn from scratch. I've used this method before for digital art with results that would probably be decent enough for the low res sprites.
The most challenging bit will be the animation itself... A single animation loop in PIC is 4 frames, so it's not too massive of a commitment, but is going to take time and effort. I was thinking of trying a couple of animation loops but let's see how things go...
I have no interest in doing something like this professionally, just wanted to see what else can be accomplished with this animation style / method in a side scroller.
Regarding compensation, I was not expecting hundreds of $, just wondering whether anyone would offer amything, as from experience, doing this properly takes me ages... But I am OK with just trying it on my own. Will not be feeling any pressure from outside this way.
Here's a link to my old other Pixiv account. I haven't posted there in ages and ther's not much o there, but will give a rough general idea...
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I was not planning on using AI for this, as I've never gotten round to learning the tools and just want to draw it all myself. It may actually be very beneficial if done properly and enable single perso projects of this calibre. But we're not there yet.
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We think similar, I was able to make a couple bucks from a comission animation but I didn't commit much after that one
You can probably figure it out with your skill level, having the obvservation skill to notice the quality difference is the first sign
I recommend using your pixiv or setting a new account and posting the works there for diffusion
Hey. I just found out about your wave mod and tried it. Like others have said, it's impressive and thanks for your work. However, I haven't seen anybody talk about the difficulty of the mod so I would like to leave some feedback in case you ever work on it again.
Personally, I've found that it's too difficult on "Normal" difficulty. Sometimes seemingly impossible. The highest I've gotten so far is Wave 6. I'm sure it's possible to go higher but I'm not sure how to do so reliably. Specifically, I'm really not sure how the player is supposed to deal with enemies spawning simultaneously and sometimes very close to the PC on both sides. Due to the very limited rate of fire of the gun/kicks, the high HP of the enemies, and not having invincibility frames after getting fucked to escape being surrounded, there doesn't seem to be any way to counterplay. Magnum does help against certain enemies, but is also blocked by many enemies. Also, another problem is that worms and crawling flies often get hidden among the bodies so the player doesn't have a fair chance to react to them.
My suggestion is some combination of:
- Decrease spawn rate
- Increase minimum distance from the PC that the monsters can spawn
- Decrease HP of enemies slightly (not so it's the same as "Easy" difficulty, but somewhere in between current "Normal" and current "Easy")
- Clear bodies after each wave
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Glad you enjoyed it. There isn't anything new after wave 5-6, once the tentacle spawner boss spawns, so the difficulty steps up quite a lot past that point since there's no reason to go higher anyway.
It is possible to reach wave 10 and higher though. But not by playing normally. You have to figure out that
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I haven't planned to continue this mod unless some other modder comes with new enemies/anims. But if I end up updating it, you can expected the difficulty to be balanced like that. The starting place is probably not gonna ever be holdable after wave 10, but I'll add new parts of the building and weapons which will allow to survive past wave 10. I will likely not make enemies easier as I want the solution to be challenging. I'll consider adding invincibility frames though as it can be sometimes frustrating (it's not intuitive though but if you let the heroine gets sex'd instead of mashing, you have invincibility and no-collision for a few frames already, while mashing seems to still keep collision, and the sex itself doesn't do much damage, so it is better to not mash sometimes).
FYI, around waves 6-7 the AI of the monsters is also improved, it's not just more of them, so I expected to fail around this point if you play normally.
I did manage to reach Wave 9 not long after my previous comment by finding out about that position that you spoilered. But yes I would prefer to reach higher level waves by playing normally instead of cheesing
Yeah I also did notice the waves don't actually get harder after Wave 6.
Invincibility frames would be great! I just gave rather basic suggestions because I'm not sure what can be feasibly accomplished through modding.
Another suggestion would be adding more moves, possibly special/emergency moves that have their own resource (separate from the ammo used for the pistol) that you have to manage. Like being able to barrel roll though enemies to avoid being surrounded. Or shooting in both directions for a limited number of shots/limited amount of time. Or being able to block/parry/negate damage for certain number of attacks/limited amount of time. Lots of possibilities. But they would probably require separate, new anims.
Not related to balance, but powerup items, weapons, and ammo spawning in random locations might be a neat idea too? To encourage the player to move around instead of finding the best spots to camp.
Tried doing a sketched version of an animation, 3 frame loop, first with a tablet, and now on my phone with my thumb
The idea is to have her interacting with 2 cicadas.
Trying to also set up a similar motion loop in DAZ3D for better reference.
This is quite hard and time consuming.
The idea is to have her interacting with 2 cicadas.
Trying to also set up a similar motion loop in DAZ3D for better reference.
This is quite hard and time consuming.
Be incredible and very sexyTried doing a sketched version of an animation, 3 frame loop, first with a tablet, and now on my phone with my thumb
The idea is to have her interacting with 2 cicadas.
Trying to also set up a similar motion loop in DAZ3D for better reference.
This is quite hard and time consuming.
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