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DomWolf

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All NTR against the MC is...... NTR the MC does is avoidable too. But somebody has to get their feelings hurt or this game gets boring fast
In my experience people are asking about the MC losing girls to others so I didnt list all the times MC does ot to others.
 

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Yes. You dont HAVE to be mayor. But you also cant trigger Liandra giving birth until you are mayor so...
so short answer is NO :p, and I bet there will be more in the future that requires you to be mayor.

It was a serious question BTW, I thought maybe after enough time/conditions had passed, the mayors son would turn up and do something that triggered the mayors death and your candidacy without the whole cuck sequence, I genuinely could have missed all this because I used to pay my rent on time :eek: (force of habit)

Like can you ignore Alice and her fiance causing her to actually marry him? to be honest I came close to trying this, Tavern Alice didn't really float my boat (Temple Alice is so much hotter)
 

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so short answer is NO :p, and I bet there will be more in the future that requires you to be mayor.

It was a serious question BTW, I thought maybe after enough time/conditions had passed, the mayors son would turn up and do something that triggered the mayors death and your candidacy without the whole cuck sequence, I genuinely could have missed all this because I used to pay my rent on time :eek: (force of habit)

Like can you ignore Alice and her fiance causing her to actually marry him? to be honest I came close to trying this, Tavern Alice didn't really float my boat (Temple Alice is so much hotter)
Every quest (apart from Zsofia's dress & Oakly's acorn) are time limit free. Suitor will never marry Alice, Roderick will not show up without cucking the mayor & so on. Zsofia's dress quest & Acorns are the only quests that can be failed in the game by not completing them by a certain point.
 

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Every quest (apart from Zsofia's dress & Oakly's acorn) are time limit free. Suitor will never marry Alice, Roderick will not show up without cucking the mayor & so on. Zsofia's dress quest & Acorns are the only quests that can be failed in the game by not completing them by a certain point.
cant you give the Dress in the courtyard of the castle?
if not than that is a ''bug''
 

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cant you give the Dress in the courtyard of the castle?
if not than that is a ''bug''
Well last time forgot to do that is was strate put into Failed so always assumed that was the case. Havent tried it in the later updates as I never wanted to miss it. So not sure...
 

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Is it though?? can you progress the game without cucking the mayor?
In my experience people are asking about the MC losing girls to others so I didnt list all the times MC does ot to others.
Is it though?? can you progress the game without cucking the mayor?
Honestly my understanding of NTR is about the same as nuclear fusión. From what I've been told it's when the LI of one party is "forcibly" taken by another party". There is no choice there and that's what I work with, I accept correction on this because I just don't know about NTR that much.
From that understanding I generated my last opinion. As for progressing I accept NTR is unavoidable for the MC in some scenarios. Gotta hurt the poor old mayor's feels. As for his son I debated with someone that explained it to me like this. If you like a girl and are courting her when all of a sudden another man swoops in an sweeps her off her feet and away from you, I was told that's NTR too. I don't play those routes so I will be deficient in my understanding most like forever.
 
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Well last time forgot to do that is was strate put into Failed so always assumed that was the case. Havent tried it in the later updates as I never wanted to miss it. So not sure...
cant you give the Dress in the courtyard of the castle?
if not than that is a ''bug'
Yes you can. I've missed giving her it in the cemetery and ended up giving her it in the courtyard
 
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Honestly my understanding of NTR is about the same as nuclear fusión. From what I've been told it's when the LI of one party is "forcibly" taken by another party". There is no choice there and that's what I work with, I accept correction on this because I just don't know about NTR that much.
From that understanding I generated my last opinion. As for progressing I accept NTR is unavoidable for the MC in some scenarios. Gotta hurt the poor old mayor's feels. As for his son I debated with someone that explained it to me like this. If you like a girl and are courting her when all of a sudden another man swoops in an sweeps her off her feet and away from you, I was told that's NTR too. I don't play those routes so I will be deficient in my understanding most like forever.
The "forcibly taken" is an angle that lot of Netorare takes, but it is "Loss" that is the big definition I think loss is twice a intense if you endure herculean trials trying to "save" the girl from the guy who is extorting her into being his sex slave, just to be told at the finish line that "actually she loves him now, not you, so she is staying".

The big arguments stem from the point you can't loss what isn't yours to begin with, all those Anti-NTR folk crying that all women are their LI's because they want them, is right up there with the those who claim various celebrities are their soul mates, if they can't have them nobody can.

As for the courting argument, that has a certain amount merit if the girl gives fair indication that she wants you, in the case of the mayors son, that really doesn't apply because neither of the women wanted him or lead him to believe they wanted him, he was simply a wannabe rapist in waiting (rape isn't NTR either, the LI has to choose the other guy over you, having a LI raped is a traumatic event but you still have each other after)
 

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The "forcibly taken" is an angle that lot of Netorare takes, but it is "Loss" that is the big definition I think loss is twice a intense if you endure herculean trials trying to "save" the girl from the guy who is extorting her into being his sex slave, just to be told at the finish line that "actually she loves him now, not you, so she is staying".

The big arguments stem from the point you can't loss what isn't yours to begin with, all those Anti-NTR folk crying that all women are their LI's because they want them, is right up there with the those who claim various celebrities are their soul mates, if they can't have them nobody can.

As for the courting argument, that has a certain amount merit if the girl gives fair indication that she wants you, in the case of the mayors son, that really doesn't apply because neither of the women wanted him or lead him to believe they wanted him, he was simply a wannabe rapist in waiting (rape isn't NTR either, the LI has to choose the other guy over you, having a LI raped is a traumatic event but you still have each other after)
Fair points, I can follow that train of thought. To tired to do it now though. :)
 
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I'm surprised he hasn't hung himself with all the humilation he recieves...
My thoughts exactly
Possibly a self-punishment type masochism? He has put Jenny through so much shit that he may feel guilty & sees her time with MC as the happiest shes been in a long time. Not wanting to lose her he has merely assigned himself the comfort that she still wants to be his wife. He just has to let the mayor fuck her each weak...

Also I'm sure he probably knows deep down non of the kids are his but again he both wants to be with Jenny & wants to be punished for the years of pain he coursed her. Deep down he probably feels he deserves this & has come to terms.
 
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Possibly a self-punishment type masochism? He has put Jenny through so much shit that he may feel guilty & sees her time with MC as the happiest shes been in a long time. Not wanting to lose her he has merely assigned himself the comfort that she still wants to be his wife. He just has to let the mayor fuck her each weak...

Also I'm sure he probably knows deep down non of the kids are his but again he both wants to be with Jenny & wants to be punished for the years of pain he coursed her. Deep down he probably feels he deserves this & has come to terms.
I mean its only porn game and this is some way to have Jenny and have kids with her without any responsibility ;)
 
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where to find manure for a moon flower I cleaned up after a horse I collected only three but I need five thanks in advance
 
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