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Well not really. Self grooming & maintenance is still a thing.

Luthien is hairless down there. I think Oksana & Liandra is also hairless (but I cant tell if it's just spars blonde hairs or if they are clean shaven). Succubus & Familiar are also clean shaven downstairs too. So there are a small number of females who have shaven pussies. Even among the women with hair there are a mix of trimed & full bush going on.

There are also females who just dont have hair like BB & Vix but I'm not counting them officially cos they are not "people" like Humans, Halflings & Elves (BB is part of a hairless species of bats & Vix is a Dragon so of course she is hairless).
I really doubt that self-maintenance was really a thing in the medieval. First, it was expensive, there was no time for it, and it was not convenient. After all, even the nobility had a rather strange opinion about cleanliness from today's point of view.
Sure, you usually didn't go to bed covered in pig shit, but it probably wasn't a given.

Elves are conceited and contrived. Even their males are terribly effeminate. You just can't count Luthien out.

I mean Oksana had some hair.

SD, GD and familiar you cant count too. They are only few weeks old or what. Im not really sure about GD, Im afraid of her pussy more than from these japanese squared pussies.
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I really doubt that self-maintenance was really a thing in the medieval. First, it was expensive, there was no time for it, and it was not convenient. After all, even the nobility had a rather strange opinion about cleanliness from today's point of view.
Sure, you usually didn't go to bed covered in pig shit, but it probably wasn't a given.

Elves are conceited and contrived. Even their males are terribly effeminate. You just can't count Luthien out.

I mean Oksana had some hair.

SD, GD and familiar you cant count too. They are only few weeks old or what. Im not really sure about GD, Im afraid of her pussy more than from these japanese squared pussies.
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True, but I would imagine some women back then would mabey put some care into their bush (& dudes come to think of it) a pair of scissors giving a controlled trim is something I can imagine people doing depending on culture & personal preference. There are plenty of women in this game who have trimed or maintained pubic areas (I even went & checked before I put up my comment just to be sure :p)

I was just pointing out that Luthien is shaven, & with her age she is definitely doing the wax! I think Liandra is shaven. But at the same time Erevi & Caleah have some bush so not all Elves keep it clear down there.

I couldnt tell cos blonde pubes can be really fine & "hidden" so... thanks for the confirmation.

SD, GD & Familiar may not be very old (being a few weaks/couple years) but what about Annabelle & Venomina? Both are also very young when you think about how fast they matured. BOTH have hairy twats. Just saying.

Also what's wrong with GD's pussy? Shes my favorite gobbo
 

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True, but I would imagine some women back then would mabey put some care into their bush (& dudes come to think of it) a pair of scissors giving a controlled trim is something I can imagine people doing depending on culture & personal preference. There are plenty of women in this game who have trimed or maintained pubic areas (I even went & checked before I put up my comment just to be sure :p)

I was just pointing out that Luthien is shaven, & with her age she is definitely doing the wax! I think Liandra is shaven. But at the same time Erevi & Caleah have some bush so not all Elves keep it clear down there.

I couldnt tell cos blonde pubes can be really fine & "hidden" so... thanks for the confirmation.

SD, GD & Familiar may not be very old (being a few weaks/couple years) but what about Annabelle & Venomina? Both are also very young when you think about how fast they matured. BOTH have hairy twats. Just saying.

Also what's wrong with GD's pussy? Shes my favorite gobbo
Caleah is a Swamp Elf, that doesn't sound too fancy to me.
Everi doesn't have time for haircuts, she has to practice black magic.

I'm not entirely sure about Oksana, I just think so.

As you yourself pointed out earlier, they are not quite human. Large spiders are hairy from birth and we haven't seen a bald cow either.

I really like her model, but her pussy scares me, it's just so weird so meaty in weird way. And I saw what kind of immoralities.

I'm just rambling. At first I was disgusted by how hairy the game is, but now it just suits me for what age it is.
 
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I really doubt that self-maintenance was really a thing in the medieval. First, it was expensive, there was no time for it, and it was not convenient. After all, even the nobility had a rather strange opinion about cleanliness from today's point of view.
Sure, you usually didn't go to bed covered in pig shit, but it probably wasn't a given....
I knew I had an argument to this but it took me a few minutes to find something to reference... scraping the skin predates soap and water as a way of cleaning yourself (it's more than getting dirt of your body or any kind of "fashion"... parasites like lice really motivate a regular cleaning routine), this goes double for areas where water is scarce or temperatures are too cold to make immersion in water desirable... Where you say people were hairy because it was medieval time, I tend to believe Hirsutism is a relatively modern concept (indoor plumbing might have been the big landmark), that is enabled by the multitude of hygiene options we now have that are less destructive to our body hair

https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/why-women-feel-pressured-to-shave/index.html said:
....Before that, removing body hair was something both men and women did – as far back as the Stone Age, then through ancient Egypt, Greece and the Roman Empire – using seashells, beeswax and various other depilatories. In these earlier eras, as Victoria Sherrow writes in “Encyclopedia of Hair: A Cultural History,” hairlessness was seen mostly as a way to keep the body clean. Ancient Romans also associated it with class: The smoother your skin was, the purer and more superior you were.
 
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i am not want to stop the fight. or issues

but who was for shaving ((heart)) and for the bush ((party/new update))
so want to see who is fighting who
 
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i am not want to stop the fight. or issues

but who was for shaving ((heart)) and for the bush ((party/new update))
so want to see who is fighting who
No fight bro. Someone mentioned everyone in the game has bush. I pointed out that while most women do have bush, many are trimed or maintained, & there are some LIs who are bare down their. Then came the debate on wether medieval people self groomed/maintained their body hair.

No argument. No teams. No Bush party or Bald party. Just a debate on historical stuff when compared to PQ lol
 
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i am not want to stop the fight. or issues

but who was for shaving ((heart)) and for the bush ((party/new update))
so want to see who is fighting who
No fight, just being pedantic, personally I love variety (I've said it before, I'm sure), though I personally tend to lean toward trimmed rather than bald or unkept, but style IMO should be inkeeping with the personality of the character rather than an overarching "rule"
 

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I knew I had an argument to this but it took me a few minutes to find something to reference... scraping the skin predates soap and water as a way of cleaning yourself (it's more than getting dirt of your body or any kind of "fashion"... parasites like lice really motivate a regular cleaning routine), this goes double for areas where water is scarce or temperatures are too cold to make immersion in water desirable... Where you say people were hairy because it was medieval time, I tend to believe Hirsutism is a relatively modern concept (indoor plumbing might have been the big landmark), that is enabled by the multitude of hygiene options we now have that are less destructive to our body hair

I didn't say that there weren't eras when people didn't take care of themselves. But the Middle Ages is quite a dirty period for me. Even in the 17th century, picking lice from a wig was a popular pastime. In addition, in most of the books I read glorified hair growth during this period.

i am not want to stop the fight. or issues

but who was for shaving ((heart)) and for the bush ((party/new update))
so want to see who is fighting who
I choose shaved, or rather well-groomed. I like it when the girl has some shape cut there. But this discussion is not about preferences ;)
 

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You don't STINK like a peasant. You don't DRESS like a peasant. And you're definitely not ON FIRE like a peasant.
 
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I didn't say that there weren't eras when people didn't take care of themselves. But the Middle Ages is quite a dirty period for me. Even in the 17th century, picking lice from a wig was a popular pastime. In addition, in most of the books I read glorified hair growth during this period.
Feels like you are switching the goalposts now buddy, since AFAIK we were talking about their ability to groom themselves, but let me try for a concise response (this will be my third time editing this BTW, I keep writing essays :cautious:)
  1. This game is not set in the middle ages, The Middles Ages simply act as an analogue to help us identify with the technologies available.
  2. Even if it were the middle ages, Fads aren't universal, there is no evidence of anyone in the game with elaborate wigs for example, No sign of Lead based makeup, No sign of shaved foreheads etc
  3. Conversely I found this photo of a bas-relief that clearly shows a medieval woman tending to her bush.
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Feels like you are switching the goalposts now buddy, since AFAIK we were talking about their ability to groom themselves, but let me try for a concise response (this will be my third time editing this BTW, I keep writing essays :cautious:)
  1. This game is not set in the middle ages, The Middles Ages simply act as an analogue to help us identify with the technologies available.
  2. Even if it were the middle ages, Fads aren't universal, there is no evidence of anyone in the game with elaborate wigs for example, No sign of Lead based makeup, No sign of shaved foreheads etc
  3. Conversely I found this photo of a bas-relief that clearly shows a medieval woman tending to her bush.
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I definitely don't change goalposts. I never wrote here that I like hairy pussies like when you cut a bear's back.
I just wrote that it fits this period. It is clear to me that the game is fantasy, but its environment is clearly inspired by the medieval, perhaps even ancient times. For me, this eras are just pretty dirty. I guess I'm influenced by pop culture. In addition, at this time, probably the largest epidemics in the history of mankind were raging, mostly connected with poor hygiene. And a completely unkempt bush is a sign of bad hygiene for me.

I don't write much here because I only have basic knowledge of English and translators often destroy the original idea (I don't blame them, it's my fault, I should have studied better).
I often get confused both in the original post and in my own post. That's why I usually only write short posts.

To extricate myself from this, my original position was that the women here are mostly unshaven. The game is set in a period inspired by the early Middle Ages Europe, and this period evokes relatively low hygiene habits, into which my unshaved pubic area fits perfectly.

Also, MC has more hair on his ass than some of my friends on face.
 

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I definitely don't change goalposts. I never wrote here that I like hairy pussies like when you cut a bear's back....
I never said anything about your preferences, my only point was that there was nothing stopping the women from having a shaved/trimmed bush.... full stop. My interpretation of your posts was that you were taking the opposing stance.

and it definitely looks like there have been some crossed wires here, so for clarity's sake I didn't intend any offense and I didn't intend for you to feel attacked.
 

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I never said anything about your preferences, my only point was that there was nothing stopping the women from having a shaved/trimmed bush.... full stop. My interpretation of your posts was that you were taking the opposing stance.

and it definitely looks like there have been some crossed wires here, so for clarity's sake I didn't intend any offense and I didn't intend for you to feel attacked.
I certainly don't feel attacked. In addition, I agree with you in most cases. I just don't agree here.
I'm not even saying that something really prevented women, maybe just prejudices and customs of the time. I'm just of the opinion that it wasn't common.
And to the game. A poor woman who takes care of her business (bakery, stables, mayorship, cooking drugs...) has 6 or more children. The father of these children is still whoring somewhere and making other children with other women. No help with kids or household. In addition, she has to be at his will at any time, if she is not, he will drug her with a cake. Tell me when does that poor woman have time to shave her bush?
 

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I didn't say that there weren't eras when people didn't take care of themselves. But the Middle Ages is quite a dirty period for me. Even in the 17th century, picking lice from a wig was a popular pastime. In addition, in most of the books I read glorified hair growth during this period.


I choose shaved, or rather well-groomed. I like it when the girl has some shape cut there. But this discussion is not about preferences ;)
You know for ladies to keep their pussies clean-shaven is the same for guys doing the same thing with their faces
 

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I certainly don't feel attacked. In addition, I agree with you in most cases. I just don't agree here.
I'm not even saying that something really prevented women, maybe just prejudices and customs of the time. I'm just of the opinion that it wasn't common.
And to the game. A poor woman who takes care of her business (bakery, stables, mayorship, cooking drugs...) has 6 or more children. The father of these children is still whoring somewhere and making other children with other women. No help with kids or household. In addition, she has to be at his will at any time, if she is not, he will drug her with a cake. Tell me when does that poor woman have time to shave her bush?
If you read my first post on this track you'd note I already commented on the fastest way... Fire :p, pass a lit torch quickly across the area and hair goes bye bye with only a lingering smell to testify that it was ever there to begin with. Besides that there is no reason they don't have a hair removing ointments/potions (just like the real Middle Ages) with the inclusion of magic the options only expand.

Besides that deadbeat father of the village has lots of money, let him pay for whatever grooming services that might be required to maintain his harems standard of beauty.... If nothing else he can surely learn a fireball spell :devilish:
 

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You know for ladies to keep their pussies clean-shaven is the same for guys doing the same thing with their faces
I have had a beard for over 20 years and it has never felt unclean. The same cannot be said about the female growth :p

And I have one old stupit joke about this, if you want.

If you read my first post on this track you'd note I already commented on the fastest way... Fire :p, pass a lit torch quickly across the area and hair goes bye bye with only a lingering smell to testify that it was ever there to begin with. Besides that there is no reason they don't have a hair removing ointments/potions (just like the real Middle Ages) with the inclusion of magic the options only expand.
Well, yes, but then the smell during cunnilingus, it will be like licking ashes.
OK, potions would do, I just can't argue with that here.
Besides that deadbeat father of the village has lots of money, let him pay for whatever grooming services that might be required to maintain his harems standard of beauty.... If nothing else he can surely learn a fireball spell :devilish:
I think MC doesn't care what his beauties look like. He just loves them all the way they are.
Plus, in your case, he can't even have the money for it if he spends everything on renovating the Millers' house :KEK:
 

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...Well, yes, but then the smell during cunnilingus, it will be like licking ashes...
ok Dude, I don't know about your girls, but mine wash! and when they do it's bye bye ashes & burnt hair smell. (besides it's best to do the singeing near the bath or some other body of water... just incase!!)

...Plus, in your case, he can't even have the money for it if he spends everything on renovating the Millers' house :KEK:
Well I wouldn't need to keep burning down the Millers House if there were something else to do there ;)
 
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ok Dude, I don't know about your girls, but mine wash! and when they do it's bye bye ashes & burnt hair smell. (besides it's best to do the singeing near the bath or some other body of water... just incase!!)


Well I wouldn't need to keep burning down the Millers House if there were something else to do there ;)
Dude, have you ever burned for example your arm hair? You simply can't get rid of the stench, and you can't just wash it off, you just have to re-smell it.

I'm starting to feel like you're taking me way too seriously. Even in my first post on this hairly topic, I thought with exaggeration.
We'll probably leave it at that, whoever wants to shave and wherever they want.
 
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