Damagus01

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Good game overall but there are some things I dislike about it.

There are these things called "side quests" and they give the impression that "they are not related to main quests/storyline so it's optional to do them" but they are not. There is this quest called "missing shipment". It's one of the first quests and requires to you have sex with an (ugly) ogre to complete the quest. Preferably there should be an option to complete the quest without having sex with her, but even if there isn't such an option I wouldn't make a huge deal out of it and simply leave the quest unfinished. But later in the game, you get a main quest that requires getting a dress for Erevi but you can't because you didn't finish totally unrelated side quest. This is only one of the examples.

I mean, preferably I don't want to trigger any bestiality scenes and would want to have an option for that. But even if Beth's entire existence revolves around doing it with a horse thus adding such an option defeats the purpose then that should only prevent you from seeing Beth-related events/scenes/quests. It shouldn't affect completely unrelated quests that you are unable to take (and progress further in the game) unless you see some horse action.

I only didn't complete 3 side quests (missing shipment, spyglass and female goblin quests) and became unable to progress further (I can't get "restoring the temple" quest). That female goblin returns like nothing happened even if I take her ears and kill her. That's some side quest ya.
"Missing Shipment" was renamed "The Peddler's Fate" a while back, you're playing an older version. The current one is v3.12, with another update due in the next 2-3 weeks or so.

Regarding your specific comments:
1) The game explores a lot of kinks & fetishes. A LOT. No one expects any particular player to find all of that content appealing.
2) Some Side quests have to be completed before certain Main quests are available, but any additional quests in that storyline don't have to be done. For example you need to get Rosy's bakery up and running but don't have to pursue her storyline past that.
3) You don't have to peep on Beth at all, let alone get the spyglass. I made that mistake myself. Just get her Affection high enough (though she only agrees to a date with you after Restore The Temple is done). It's a lot of shoveling, but it works.
4) You do not have to return to Maghda (the ogress) after that first time, but you need to get Edgar's stuff back so he can open his shop. You'll be buying outfits from him even if you avoid as many side quests as you can. That includes Main quests...you have to complete Shopping (for Erevi in the Tower) before Restore The Temple is available.
5) Goblins are a recurring threat. They were nearly wiped out 20 years ago and now they're back. You can't reduce their threat without following their quests. If you don't, you accept they will continue to be an issue in the game. (The goblins questline is extremely popular, thouh.)

Other Side questlines don't have to be done at all. For example you can complete the game having done zero content for Mia, Victoria, Alice, the giants, or the goblins (and this list is incomplete...). However, nearly all the Side girls' questlines provide some kind of in-game benefit if you follow them. Passive income, access to more ingredients, the ability to buy things you normally can't buy, etc.
 

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5) Goblins are a recurring threat. They were nearly wiped out 20 years ago and now they're back. You can't reduce their threat without following their quests. If you don't, you accept they will continue to be an issue in the game. (The goblins questline is extremely popular, thouh.)

Everything you have said is so correct & I agree with it all. However I do agree with rndmann about the whole Shakala still showing up even if you kill her... I do feel if she is killed then she should stay dead & the whole Goblin Arc is just cut off from then on.

It's a wierd thing IMO & should be changed. Otherwise what's the point in the choice?
 
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Maybe if a female orc is added, to scout an orc camp?
Honestly I would just like to see it used more. Scouting Goblin camps, peeping on more girls, spotting secrets/weaknesses.

Example:
Like you said you are scouting a powerful orc force that threatens the Temple & Wierdwood. If you have the Spyglass you can use it to look at key points in the camp (the forge, the barracks, beast pens ect...) & u can check the chief's/boss'es longhouse only to 1) find out its female boss & 2) she is currently stripping for a bath... ;).
 

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Everything you have said is so correct & I agree with it all. However I do agree with rndmann about the whole Shakala still showing up even if you kill her... I do feel if she is killed then she should stay dead & the whole Goblin Arc is just cut off from then on.

It's a wierd thing IMO & should be changed. Otherwise what's the point in the choice?
I view it as, another powerful female goblin will show up. You do have a point about that female showing up any time soon, though. They're uncommon to begin with, not all of them become powerful (see Sequoia), and TBH not all of those who could become powerful would survive long enough to equal Shakala. Perhaps after gacking her it should be a while before the next one appears.
 
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Evangelion-01

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I view it as, another powerful female goblin will show up. You do have a point about that female showing up any time soon, though. They're uncommon to begin with, not all of them become powerful (see Sequoia), and TBH not all of those who could become powerful would survive long enough to equal Shakala's. Perhaps after gacking her it should be a while before the next one appears.
Any Clan poseing a Thread to MCs Clan need to have a female... apparently the old Goblin King had ensured the loyality of the other Clans by force, which required him to monopolize the females... when he had no females left in his Clan he attempted to recruit several Trolls in order to keep the other Clans under Controll.
A Clan without a female are dependend on outcasts or runaways from the other clans in order to increase or maintain their numbers... they wouldn't risk to rebell against a stronger force... maybe fall in line as Vasall to one of the stronger Clans, but they wouldn't attack MCs Clan on their own.
The females need to be powerfull to choose their own partner.... if they are weak they'll either become the cumdumps of their tribe or the Chiefs sex slave
 

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"Missing Shipment" was renamed "The Peddler's Fate" a while back, you're playing an older version. The current one is v3.12, with another update due in the next 2-3 weeks or so.

Regarding your specific comments:
1) The game explores a lot of kinks & fetishes. A LOT. No one expects any particular player to find all of that content appealing.
2) Some Side quests have to be completed before certain Main quests are available, but any additional quests in that storyline don't have to be done. For example you need to get Rosy's bakery up and running but don't have to pursue her storyline past that.
3) You don't have to peep on Beth at all, let alone get the spyglass. I made that mistake myself. Just get her Affection high enough (though she only agrees to a date with you after Restore The Temple is done). It's a lot of shoveling, but it works.
4) You do not have to return to Maghda (the ogress) after that first time, but you need to get Edgar's stuff back so he can open his shop. You'll be buying outfits from him even if you avoid as many side quests as you can. That includes Main quests...you have to complete Shopping (for Erevi in the Tower) before Restore The Temple is available.
5) Goblins are a recurring threat. They were nearly wiped out 20 years ago and now they're back. You can't reduce their threat without following their quests. If you don't, you accept they will continue to be an issue in the game. (The goblins questline is extremely popular, thouh.)

Other Side questlines don't have to be done at all. For example you can complete the game having done zero content for Mia, Victoria, Alice, the giants, or the goblins (and this list is incomplete...). However, nearly all the Side girls' questlines provide some kind of in-game benefit if you follow them. Passive income, access to more ingredients, the ability to buy things you normally can't buy, etc.

First of all, I was playing v3.12 but walkthrough was using old name and that name stuck with me.

2, 4) So, I still have to complete a side quest with an unappealing event (even though I am lvl 12 and capable of killing her by just gazing at her at this point) in order to continue main quest. That was my point.
3) I gave Beth as an example just to get across my point. I didn't complete the current content so I don't actually know if you need to spy her to take some unrelated other quests. Peddler quest was like that and I got the impression there are others like it.
5) So, you are saying not doing goblin quests doesn't prevent me from taking other side quests or main quests? That's good.

So, you are saying things like "The Peddler's Fate" doesn't happen too much and if I bear one or two of them I should be ok? I still would prefer if there was an option for completing this quest without having sex with her (especially because you have to complete this quest in order to progress through the game, if it was something optional I just wouldn't do that quest and be done with it). Like killing her or deceiving her.
 

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I view it as, another powerful female goblin will show up. You do have a point about that female showing up any time soon, though. They're uncommon to begin with, not all of them become powerful (see Sequoia), and TBH not all of those who could become powerful would survive long enough to equal Shakala. Perhaps after gacking her it should be a while before the next one appears.
Yeah buts not "another" female goblin. Its Shakala. We all know it's her. The game dosent change, she dont have a different name. It's still a bit immersion breaking if u r one of the people who decided to kill her.
 

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I've been giving Jenny fake potions to play with dice
After winning the dice, he had sex with Jenny and used a fertility enhancement potion, but he still couldn't get Jenny pregnant
Jenny big sexy woman ;) but can she have max have 6 kids?
maybe a litlle nice surprise ;)
 

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First of all, I was playing v3.12 but walkthrough was using old name and that name stuck with me.

2, 4) So, I still have to complete a side quest with an unappealing event (even though I am lvl 12 and capable of killing her by just gazing at her at this point) in order to continue main quest. That was my point.
3) I gave Beth as an example just to get across my point. I didn't complete the current content so I don't actually know if you need to spy her to take some unrelated other quests. Peddler quest was like that and I got the impression there are others like it.
5) So, you are saying not doing goblin quests doesn't prevent me from taking other side quests or main quests? That's good.

So, you are saying things like "The Peddler's Fate" doesn't happen too much and if I bear one or two of them I should be ok? I still would prefer if there was an option for completing this quest without having sex with her (especially because you have to complete this quest in order to progress through the game, if it was something optional I just wouldn't do that quest and be done with it). Like killing her or deceiving her.
Well you need the horse cum for the Giant cock Potion and as far as I remember that requires observing Beth atleast once... unless you buy it each time from the clothing shop dude ofc... than again you need to brew it atleast once for the temple Questline and Frida as far as I can recall.

Long story short you should abide of the idea that sidequest means not mandatory quest... in this game side Quests are Quest surrunding storylines not defined as the main story line... though they progress and develope different areas of the game which will eventually become mandatory or important in the main storyline.
 

HarukazeYukii

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Most pregnancies last 20 days (announced on day 5).

Vampires take 25 days.

Goblins take 15 days.

Bat Breeder & Venomina take 7 days.


Yes you gain an Imp Familiar later in the Tower quests.
Do I have to keep doing the main quests to unlock birth? cause Im already in day 90 and still not kids so far and I have 3 girls pregnat already
 

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Do I have to keep doing the main quests to unlock birth? cause Im already in day 90 and still not kids so far and I have 3 girls pregnat already
Erevi is the 1st person to get pregnant & give birth. Complete all her quests up until u have done her shopping & date. Then do the Temple quests with Ziva tk re-open the Temple. Speak with Beth, ask her on date, then see Erevi. She should be in labour.

Who are the other 2 girls u have pregnant?
 
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HarukazeYukii

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Erevi is the 1st person to get pregnant & give birth. Complete all her quests up until u have done her shopping & date. Then do the Temple quests with Ziva tk re-open the Temple. Speak with Beth, ask her on date, then see Erevi. She should be in labour.

Who are the other 2 girls u have pregnant?
Frida and Victoria
 

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Frida and Victoria
Frida is stuck in pregnancy until after u complete the Waystones Part 2 quest.

Victoria is a weird 1. I think u must complete Let There Be Light & Waystones Part 2 in order for her to visit angry about her pregnancy. If she HAS visited u in anger & u have completed making the mayor horny & winning her back, then u need to do Waystones Part 2 & then wait for a guard to appear waiting outside you're house (try to go in then complete the following questline).

Alot of first time pregnancies or births are locked behind certain questlines.
 
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HarukazeYukii

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Frida is stuck in pregnancy until after u complete the Waystones Part 2 quest.

Victoria is a weird 1. I think u must complete Let There Be Light & Waystones Part 2 in order for her to visit angry about her pregnancy. If she HAS visited u in anger & u have completed making the mayor horny & winning her back, then u need to do Waystones Part 2 & then wait for a guard to appear waiting outside you're house (try to go in then complete the following questline).

Alot of first time pregnancies or births are locked behind certain questlines.
Tyvm for the help :D
 
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Damagus01

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Well you need the horse cum for the Giant cock Potion and as far as I remember that requires observing Beth atleast once... unless you buy it each time from the clothing shop dude ofc... than again you need to brew it atleast once for the temple Questline and Frida as far as I can recall.
Edgar selling sex potions requires making any sex potion on your own. I've unlocked it making a Barrenness potion. It doesn't unlock until the day after Victoria has full-on sex with you without letting you come inside her. So you don't have to buy horse seed from Beth, just buy P.G. from Edgar. I usually do make my own for the first ones and save the coins for other stuff.

FYI you can also trigger asking Ziva for the P.G. recipe by trying to visit Maghda without having one. You need to have a sheep, and if you don't have a P.G. the MC thinks "I should get a super dick potion first."
 

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Yeah buts not "another" female goblin. Its Shakala. We all know it's her. The game dosent change, she dont have a different name. It's still a bit immersion breaking if u r one of the people who decided to kill her.
Making a bunch of alternate females to show up later isn't really feasible, either.

Maybe if you want to gack her you get a warning that a lot of game content would be locked out, giving you a chance to change your mind?

Vixenatrix is also getting an update eventually. Maybe a warning if you try to steal the gem and survive her content will be locked out, as well?
 
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