RPGM Peasant's Quest [v3.91] [Tinkerer]

[storm1105]

But Mia didn't feel raped at that moment. Not until after. Do you know how many times I've felt that way when I saw my night beauty in the morning? And sober?
Even the dog comparison is lame, the woman immediately realizes that her man has slightly bigger hands and doesn't drool that much.
In Mia's case, it's just an unfortunate (and funny to those not involved) coincidence. Coincidence. I just can't accept it as rape.

Yeah M3ntir ask him please.

And I agree with everything you said about the NTR tag, it's just that it's bringing pervs here.

Oh I agree with the option of turning them off. I just think the tag is misused on this game

I'm going to be honest here. I've been readin the conversation for a while but I really really really really don't understand how rape doesn't count as ntr. The Mia scene is 100% an ntr scene. She was raped by a werewolf "but there werewolf doesn't see it as rape" first that part of the argument has to think of werewolves as having an animal intelligence when the whole point is that they're a transformed human and I don't really see why that would matter anyway. There are a lot of rapists that try to claim something was rape and that the person wanted it.

Then there's the "but Mia didn't see it as rape" yeah that's because she thought it was the mc. Rape by deception is still a thing that can be held up in court. But even if she consented and it wasn't rape I don't really see how it wouldn't really be ntr. Unless it's swinging/sharing any time the protagonist's love interest has sex with someone else while they're in a relationship with the mc it's ntr. Any scene that involves a love interest getting raped or Sexually assaulted is ntr too. I dont really understand why this is a debate. There werewolf scene imo is a pretty clear cut case of ntr. I also don't understand the argument that it wasn't rape. It 100% was.

 

[PhineasFlynn]

I'm going to be honest here. I've been readin the conversation for a while but I really really really really don't understand how rape doesn't count as ntr. The Mia scene is 100% an ntr scene. She was raped by a werewolf "but there werewolf doesn't see it as rape" first that part of the argument has to think of werewolves as having an animal intelligence when the whole point is that they're a transformed human and I don't really see why that would matter anyway. There are a lot of rapists that try to claim something was rape and that the person wanted it.

Then there's the "but Mia didn't see it as rape" yeah that's because she thought it was the mc. Rape by deception is still a thing that can be held up in court. But even if she consented and it wasn't rape I don't really see how it wouldn't really be ntr. Unless it's swinging/sharing any time the protagonist's love interest has sex with someone else while they're in a relationship with the mc it's ntr. Any scene that involves a love interest getting raped or Sexually assaulted is ntr too. I dont really understand why this is a debate. There werewolf scene imo is a pretty clear cut case of ntr. I also don't understand the argument that it wasn't rape. It 100% was.

Rape is a form of sexual violence that involves sexual penetration, with or without an object or body part, committed without the victim's consent. Consent must be freely and voluntarily given, and a definition often includes instances where the act is carried out through force, threat of force, coercion, or by taking advantage of a victim's vulnerability. Definitions can vary by jurisdiction, but the key element is the lack of consent.

None of this happened, Mia did it voluntarily, without pressure. After prior agreement. MC was an dork and could not keep his part of the agreement. Werewolf walked by and had sex with a girl who wanted to have sex with him.
Everything went practically according to the previous agreement, only the actors alternated. So just an unfortunate coincidence.
Of course, if I were MC, I probably wouldn't say it so calmly.

 

[storm1105]

coercion, or by taking advantage of a victim's vulnerability.

That's literally exactly what happened to mia. Mia was decieved into thinking she was having sex with her boyfriend and the werewolf took advantage of her vulnerability because she let her guard down thinking it was her boyfriend. That's why rape by deception is considered a thing.


The thingwith mia is 100% rape and there really isn't an argument otherwise. Any situation where a party would not have consented under normal circumstances is rape.

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Any situation where a person thinks they are having sex with someone else is rape

 

[darkBlu]

Rape is a form of sexual violence that involves sexual penetration, with or without an object or body part, committed without the victim's consent. Consent must be freely and voluntarily given, and a definition often includes instances where the act is carried out through force, threat of force, coercion, or by taking advantage of a victim's vulnerability. Definitions can vary by jurisdiction, but the key element is the lack of consent.

None of this happened, Mia did it voluntarily, without pressure. After prior agreement. MC was an dork and could not keep his part of the agreement. Werewolf walked by and had sex with a girl who wanted to have sex with him.
Everything went practically according to the previous agreement, only the actors alternated. So just an unfortunate coincidence.
Of course, if I were MC, I probably wouldn't say it so calmly.

Consent must be informed. If I consent to have sex with someone while blindfolded, but someone else has sex with me while blindfolded who is not the person I consented with, that is rape. Even if I am not able to realize the difference during the act.

Mia consented to sex with MC. The werewolf was not MC. That makes it rape.

 

[DomWolf]

I'm going to be honest here. I've been readin the conversation for a while but I really really really really don't understand how rape doesn't count as ntr. The Mia scene is 100% an ntr scene. She was raped by a werewolf "but there werewolf doesn't see it as rape" first that part of the argument has to think of werewolves as having an animal intelligence when the whole point is that they're a transformed human and I don't really see why that would matter anyway. There are a lot of rapists that try to claim something was rape and that the person wanted it.

Then there's the "but Mia didn't see it as rape" yeah that's because she thought it was the mc. Rape by deception is still a thing that can be held up in court. But even if she consented and it wasn't rape I don't really see how it wouldn't really be ntr. Unless it's swinging/sharing any time the protagonist's love interest has sex with someone else while they're in a relationship with the mc it's ntr. Any scene that involves a love interest getting raped or Sexually assaulted is ntr too. I dont really understand why this is a debate. There werewolf scene imo is a pretty clear cut case of ntr. I also don't understand the argument that it wasn't rape. It 100% was.

NTR is when a love interest is stolen from someone. Mia wasn't stolen away from MC, she had one moment where a werewolf she thought was MC fucked her. She doesn't then decide the werewolf is a better lover & leave with it. But that's just my thoughts on the matter.

As for the Werewolf's intelect, Tinkerer said Werewolves in this setting are born with the lycan bloodline. Some have full control on there transformation, others don't. Some change & get stuck that way living as a beast for months. So really we don't know anything about this werewolf but there's a 50/50 chance he is stuck seeing as he was living in a cave. So we won't really be able to tell how aware he is unless Tinkerer himself tells us.

 

[DomWolf]

taking advantage of a victim's vulnerability. Definitions can vary by jurisdiction, but the key element is the lack of consent.

Mia "consented" to the idea it was MC. She didn't consent to a random werewolf as far as she was aware. The werewolf saw a chance & took it. She was raped by this definition. The werewolf took advantage of her vulnerability & Mia was unaware of who was actually fucking her.

Would be like if you was gonna fuck you're lover dressed as a gimp but you got stuck in a closet & another gimp dude dressed as a gimp took that oppertunity to fuck her instead. It's rape, but the victim only realises it is retrospectively.

 

[storm1105]

NTR is when a love interest is stolen from someone. Mia wasn't stolen away from MC, she had one moment where a werewolf she thought was MC fucked her. She doesn't then decide the werewolf is a better lover & leave with it. But that's just my thoughts on the matter.

As for the Werewolf's intelect, Tinkerer said Werewolves in this setting are born with the lycan bloodline. Some have full control on there transformation, others don't. Some change & get stuck that way living as a beast for months. So really we don't know anything about this werewolf but there's a 50/50 chance he is stuck seeing as he was living in a cave. So we won't really be able to tell how aware he is unless Tinkerer himself tells us.

Ntr isn't about being "stoten" it's just about cuckholding. A love interest being forcibly raped is still ntr. Even a love inteterest that just goes around fucking random men but has no attachment to any of them and still loves the mc is still ntr. It's essentially any scene where the point is to invoke a feeling of possible jealousy or anger. Any sexual assault scene is ntr

 

[DomWolf]

Ntr isn't about being "stoten" it's just about cuckholding. A love interest being forcibly raped is still ntr. Even a love inteterest that just goes around fucking random men but has no attachment to any of them and still loves the mc is still ntr. It's essentially any scene where the point is to invoke a feeling of possible jealousy or anger. Any sexual assault scene is ntr

Huh. Guess that makes sense.

 

[PhineasFlynn]

Would be like if you was gonna fuck you're lover dressed as a gimp but you got stuck in a closet & another gimp dude dressed as a gimp took that oppertunity to fuck her instead. It's rape, but the victim only realises it is retrospectively.

Well, of course I agree that if this happened to me, I would be pissed off, wronged, and feel cheated.
But I don't think it meets the definition. She agreed to sleep with a werewolf. Yes, unfortunately, another one came for her.

Of course, I'm not saying it's all right. I actually agree it's wrong, but it's just not rape. Maybe an unfortunate, embarrassing sexual mistake.

 

[PhineasFlynn]

That's literally exactly what happened to mia. Mia was decieved into thinking she was having sex with her boyfriend and the werewolf took advantage of her vulnerability because she let her guard down thinking it was her boyfriend. That's why rape by deception is considered a thing.


The thingwith mia is 100% rape and there really isn't an argument otherwise. Any situation where a party would not have consented under normal circumstances is rape.

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Any situation where a person thinks they are having sex with someone else is rape

The werewolf didn't knowshe was waiting for his boyfriend. He saw a horny red hood who simply wanted it with all her might. If it had gone to court and he had a better lawyer, she could have been punished for rape in the end.

I imagine vulnerability as the inability to defend herself, both mentally and physically. Drunkenness, illness, depression. Not cosplaying with a boyfriend. After all, she didn't even hint to him that she didn't want it.

 

[PhineasFlynn]

Consent must be informed. If I consent to have sex with someone while blindfolded, but someone else has sex with me while blindfolded who is not the person I consented with, that is rape. Even if I am not able to realize the difference during the act.

Mia consented to sex with MC. The werewolf was not MC. That makes it rape.

Yeah, I agree. But where is line about informed. She was in her right mind, she didn't resist. On the contrary, she wanted it herself. I don't deny that there was a mistake here.

Of course, she didn't sign an informed consent. But has that ever happened to any of you, that you slept with a girl and only then found out what her name was?

 

[DomWolf]

Yeah, I agree. But where is line about informed. She was in her right mind, she didn't resist. On the contrary, she wanted it herself. I don't deny that there was a mistake here.

Of course, she didn't sign an informed consent. But has that ever happened to any of you, that you slept with a girl and only then found out what her name was?

Happened to a mate of mine. You wouldn't think it looking at him or hearing him speak but he's a HUGE Lord of The Rings fan like read the books, the Silmarillian, knows the lore inside & out, watches the extended cut of all the films in a Hobbit/LoTR marathonfor fun. Started dating this hot as fuck chick who just so happened to also be a massive LoTR fan as well. They would say I love you in elvish for fucksake lol.

Well she was an identical twin & her sister would often get jealous of anything she had so one day the gf went to the shower while my mate was asleep. The sister snuck in & started getting all frisky so they began to fuck. Wasn't until after when he said I love u in elvish & she was like "what the fuck?" That he realised a mistake was made.

The gf broke up with him over it. I told him he could press rape charges against the sister but he loved that girl so much he couldn't bring himself to damage her family any further. That bitch ruined the best relationship my mate has ever had.


Could argue a similiarty here. Mia thought she was fucking her bf who was gonna magically cosplay a werewolf only for a real one to swoop in & fuck her while she was unaware. This is why I consider it rape. And so would the law. I know it's a fantasy setting but it don't change the fact the consent was under false pretenses.

 

[storm1105]

Of course, she didn't sign an informed consent.

If it's not informed concent it's rape. It doesn't matter if the werewolf didn't know or not. It was absolutely a rape scene

 

[Jakeace]

View attachment 4376997 View attachment 4376998 HELP! .Beth's quest have been completed up to the PROMISE but now I have uploaded 3.55 version Berth's new house is gone too.
On the book of girls she is not preganent. see attached.
Can some help to restore or is it a bug?

Hey guys ... This problem is still here no Berths house. If some can send me a save file for 3.71 with Berts house would much appriciated. I have hold this for nealy 9 months .. please assit/ Thank you all

 

[S2nake]

either you don't meet the minimum system requirements mentioned in the quoted post or you have a corrupted download.

Hey did you include the incest and beastly mods in your unofficial android port?

 

[jamesben]

if you got to Jamesben's account and all his posts in this threat is asking; ""update when ?''
so a lazy person who just dont want to look.

finally someone told me lazy

 

[PhineasFlynn]

Happened to a mate of mine. You wouldn't think it looking at him or hearing him speak but he's a HUGE Lord of The Rings fan like read the books, the Silmarillian, knows the lore inside & out, watches the extended cut of all the films in a Hobbit/LoTR marathonfor fun. Started dating this hot as fuck chick who just so happened to also be a massive LoTR fan as well. They would say I love you in elvish for fucksake lol.

Well she was an identical twin & her sister would often get jealous of anything she had so one day the gf went to the shower while my mate was asleep. The sister snuck in & started getting all frisky so they began to fuck. Wasn't until after when he said I love u in elvish & she was like "what the fuck?" That he realised a mistake was made.

The gf broke up with him over it. I told him he could press rape charges against the sister but he loved that girl so much he couldn't bring himself to damage her family any further. That bitch ruined the best relationship my mate has ever had.


Could argue a similiarty here. Mia thought she was fucking her bf who was gonna magically cosplay a werewolf only for a real one to swoop in & fuck her while she was unaware. This is why I consider it rape. And so would the law. I know it's a fantasy setting but it don't change the fact the consent was under false pretenses.

It's sad, but I have to point out that a lot of movies I've seen start similarly, but then the sister usually joins in.

But here it's a little different, your friend didn't do anything wrong, but his "sister-in-law" was marrying his girlfriend. The werewolf didn't pretend to be anyone, he just took the opportunity. By the way, the girlfriend should have punched her sister in the face rather than breaking up with your friend.

If it's not informed concent it's rape. It doesn't matter if the werewolf didn't know or not. It was absolutely a rape scene

Let's leave it at that, it's clear that we disagree here. I just see it differently.

 

[Apartment817]

he just took the opportunity.

It's upsetting that you are refusing to acknowledge the informed part of informed consent.

Took = steal.

 

[PhineasFlynn]

It's upsetting that you are refusing to acknowledge the informed part of informed consent.

Took = steal.

Damn, I'm starting to look like a rapist. I've never done anything like that. I'm just looking at this scene from a werewolf's perspective.

I'd like to point out that I'm not a rapist, a pimp, or a cuck. This isn't the kind of situation I usually look for in porn. I just find this particular scene tragicomically funny (I assume that's what Tinkerer intended) and I definitely don't identify with any of the characters' behavior.

 

[the66]

Hey did you include the incest and beastly mods in your unofficial android port?

my Android port contains all the content the game is supposed to have.