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gotcha... I wonder if something broke in a recent update or if it's always been there... I've certainly never heard of it before
It's happened to me a few times ever since her pregnancy/birth content was added. If you sleep in ANY bed where she dissappears on day 19 you run the risk of her not returning in the morning to show the baby.

Dosent always happen but it's enough to be worried about. But as long as u sleep in a bed where she dosent dissappear then you should be good.
 

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Sorry to bombard you all with all these questions today. But I can't find any info. I even used search before starting to write.

A while ago, I started Shakala's quest. I also found Sequoia. Both Shakala and Sequoia had two hearts. Shakala had given birth to a baby girl. She grew up. But for various reasons, I put this quest on hold. I left it stalled for a while. I had the goblin population at 28, and now, strangely, it's at 19... And I should start by saying I haven't killed any of the goblins in the area. The problem is that after taking Shakala's daughter on a boar-hunting mission, I now find Shakala with one heart. Before, she had two. Can anyone explain to me why? Or how can I increase Shakala's and the other goblin women's affection? With the MC and Shakala's daughter, I guess I need to progress on her quests. But what about Shakala and Sequoia?

Thank you
It's the game's affection mechanism, if you don't have sex with that female character for a period of time, the heart will be lost. The less affection, the harder it is to ask them to have sex with us (unless we feed them special cakes).
As for the goblin population, just make the female goblins pregnant to restore the numbers.
 

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Sorry to bombard you all with all these questions today. But I can't find any info. I even used search before starting to write.

A while ago, I started Shakala's quest. I also found Sequoia. Both Shakala and Sequoia had two hearts. Shakala had given birth to a baby girl. She grew up. But for various reasons, I put this quest on hold. I left it stalled for a while. I had the goblin population at 28, and now, strangely, it's at 19... And I should start by saying I haven't killed any of the goblins in the area. The problem is that after taking Shakala's daughter on a boar-hunting mission, I now find Shakala with one heart. Before, she had two. Can anyone explain to me why? Or how can I increase Shakala's and the other goblin women's affection? With the MC and Shakala's daughter, I guess I need to progress on her quests. But what about Shakala and Sequoia?

Thank you
Everyday their is a chance Goblins will die either from conflict, infighting or stupidity. Which is why you must keep making babies with the gobbo girls so the population can stay high.

The Affection of Shakala, Sequoia & GD are strongly tethered to Goblin Pop. which means they get pissy if you aren't doing you're job & making Warriors with them.
 
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Everyday their is a chance Goblins will die either from conflict, infighting or stupidity. Which is why you must keep making babies with the gobbo girls so the population can stay high.

The Affection of Shakala, Sequoia & GD are strongly tethered to Goblin Pop. which means they get pissy if you aren't doing you're job & making Warriors with them.
Not to mention having to send some goblins to protect the well from some race I forget. I don't think that race has females or anything, because I've never met a female of that race before.
 
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It's happened to me a few times ever since her pregnancy/birth content was added. If you sleep in ANY bed where she dissappears on day 19 you run the risk of her not returning in the morning to show the baby.

Dosent always happen but it's enough to be worried about. But as long as u sleep in a bed where she dosent dissappear then you should be good.
so what was Tinkerers response? I assume you reported it... was it elusive or what?
I guess I've never encountered because I rarely sleep in any of the "good" beds, it's usually the ToD, Rented House, Goblin Nest or the Vamps... I wonder what other content/bugs I might have missed doing this.
 

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so what was Tinkerers response? I assume you reported it... was it elusive or what?
I guess I've never encountered because I rarely sleep in any of the "good" beds, it's usually the ToD, Rented House, Goblin Nest or the Vamps... I wonder what other content/bugs I might have missed doing this.
I did mention it to M3ntir who said he would let Tinkerer know but I never heard a reply on that.
 
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Sorry to bombard you all with all these questions today. But I can't find any info. I even used search before starting to write.
Nah, you're cool. You're not going "WTF why does [thing] happen/not happen??!" without giving any details of where you are in the game, what you've already tried, etc. :)

I second this. So many people just give vague, half-assed rants about their problem without anything for us to work with. Then get frustrated that we can't help cos we're asking 101 questions to pinpoint where they even are in the game & what they did. So you're good dude.
 
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Hi guys sorry if the post is a bit long this time and sorry for my writing style, but I use a translator to help me.
I'm faced with this Quest: Go Forth and Multiply
Activation requirements: Complete the quest “For the Cause”
Location: The Temple
Now that there is ample room at the temple, you must do your holy duty and father Qetesh as many
children as possible. You need to have at least 5 children at the temple in order to complete this quest.
It is completed once the apparition appears at your bedside for the second time. Speak to Ziva once the
quest is complete.

As the quest says, when there are 5* children in the temple, an apparition should appear next to the bed "twice"?

Let me start by saying, in my old save I remember this happening to me before, and I was much further along.
But since I restarted the game from scratch, I don't know why, but things are going differently.
Meaning, once I arrived at the temple, after activating the lights, I was already seeing this apparition of the woman appear on the ground floor. The MC was surprised, but nothing happened. Apart from seeing this apparition woman walk and disappear.

I continued following the quest. And in my case, Alice gave birth to a child, shortly after arriving at the temple. So I started counting from that moment. So I had 1 child. At that point, I impregnated Alice, Caleah, and Ziva on the same day :ROFLMAO:. So on the 20th day, I found myself with 1+3=4 children, since, as I said, Alice had already given birth to 1 child the first time. I tried to sleep anyway. Obviously, with 4 children, no apparition appeared. Since the quest correctly said that you must have at least 5 children, I impregnated the three women again. And after another 20 days, I found myself with 1+3+3=7 children. (Now, even if you didn't want to count the first child, I would still have 6 in the temple.) At that point, I went to bed and the apparition appeared for the first time next to the bed. So I got ready to sleep again. But the apparition didn't appear again at the foot of the bed... (I tried to sleep several times but nothing). So the quest isn't over, and it didn't ask me to go talk to Ziva. So I'm a little confused and don't know how to proceed.

Especially because another quest was activated, which theoretically should have been activated only afterward? I'm talking about the Quest: Forsaken. Entering the tavern, I found Oksana drunk and took her to the temple... but in doing so, I skipped the step related to the Quest: Spread the Good Word. Which obviously should have been activated after: Go Forth and Multiply. Can someone tell me what I did wrong? Should I reload a previous save? I have one... even if doing so would lose a couple of hours of gameplay...

Any info or advice is really appreciated.
Thank you
 

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Hi guys sorry if the post is a bit long this time and sorry for my writing style, but I use a translator to help me.
I'm faced with this Quest: Go Forth and Multiply
Activation requirements: Complete the quest “For the Cause”
Location: The Temple
Now that there is ample room at the temple, you must do your holy duty and father Qetesh as many
children as possible. You need to have at least 5 children at the temple in order to complete this quest.
It is completed once the apparition appears at your bedside for the second time. Speak to Ziva once the
quest is complete.

As the quest says, when there are 5* children in the temple, an apparition should appear next to the bed "twice"?

Let me start by saying, in my old save I remember this happening to me before, and I was much further along.
But since I restarted the game from scratch, I don't know why, but things are going differently.
Meaning, once I arrived at the temple, after activating the lights, I was already seeing this apparition of the woman appear on the ground floor. The MC was surprised, but nothing happened. Apart from seeing this apparition woman walk and disappear.

I continued following the quest. And in my case, Alice gave birth to a child, shortly after arriving at the temple. So I started counting from that moment. So I had 1 child. At that point, I impregnated Alice, Caleah, and Ziva on the same day :ROFLMAO:. So on the 20th day, I found myself with 1+3=4 children, since, as I said, Alice had already given birth to 1 child the first time. I tried to sleep anyway. Obviously, with 4 children, no apparition appeared. Since the quest correctly said that you must have at least 5 children, I impregnated the three women again. And after another 20 days, I found myself with 1+3+3=7 children. (Now, even if you didn't want to count the first child, I would still have 6 in the temple.) At that point, I went to bed and the apparition appeared for the first time next to the bed. So I got ready to sleep again. But the apparition didn't appear again at the foot of the bed... (I tried to sleep several times but nothing). So the quest isn't over, and it didn't ask me to go talk to Ziva. So I'm a little confused and don't know how to proceed.

Especially because another quest was activated, which theoretically should have been activated only afterward? I'm talking about the Quest: Forsaken. Entering the tavern, I found Oksana drunk and took her to the temple... but in doing so, I skipped the step related to the Quest: Spread the Good Word. Which obviously should have been activated after: Go Forth and Multiply. Can someone tell me what I did wrong? Should I reload a previous save? I have one... even if doing so would lose a couple of hours of gameplay...

Any info or advice is really appreciated.
Thank you
The 5+ children must be conceived in the Temple. Alice's first child does not count for that.

The apparition in the hallway is separate (and earlier) from "For The Cause," foreshadowing later events. :)
The apparition appearing by your bed is, I believe, a daily chance once the prerequisites are met rather than automatically when you sleep at the Temple. It can take a while for both times to happen. I believe the second time also has to happen on a different day than the first one, try that if you haven't done it already.
 
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Hi guys sorry if the post is a bit long this time and sorry for my writing style, but I use a translator to help me.
I'm faced with this Quest: Go Forth and Multiply
Activation requirements: Complete the quest “For the Cause”
Location: The Temple
Now that there is ample room at the temple, you must do your holy duty and father Qetesh as many
children as possible. You need to have at least 5 children at the temple in order to complete this quest.
It is completed once the apparition appears at your bedside for the second time. Speak to Ziva once the
quest is complete.

As the quest says, when there are 5* children in the temple, an apparition should appear next to the bed "twice"?

Let me start by saying, in my old save I remember this happening to me before, and I was much further along.
But since I restarted the game from scratch, I don't know why, but things are going differently.
Meaning, once I arrived at the temple, after activating the lights, I was already seeing this apparition of the woman appear on the ground floor. The MC was surprised, but nothing happened. Apart from seeing this apparition woman walk and disappear.

I continued following the quest. And in my case, Alice gave birth to a child, shortly after arriving at the temple. So I started counting from that moment. So I had 1 child. At that point, I impregnated Alice, Caleah, and Ziva on the same day :ROFLMAO:. So on the 20th day, I found myself with 1+3=4 children, since, as I said, Alice had already given birth to 1 child the first time. I tried to sleep anyway. Obviously, with 4 children, no apparition appeared. Since the quest correctly said that you must have at least 5 children, I impregnated the three women again. And after another 20 days, I found myself with 1+3+3=7 children. (Now, even if you didn't want to count the first child, I would still have 6 in the temple.) At that point, I went to bed and the apparition appeared for the first time next to the bed. So I got ready to sleep again. But the apparition didn't appear again at the foot of the bed... (I tried to sleep several times but nothing). So the quest isn't over, and it didn't ask me to go talk to Ziva. So I'm a little confused and don't know how to proceed.

Especially because another quest was activated, which theoretically should have been activated only afterward? I'm talking about the Quest: Forsaken. Entering the tavern, I found Oksana drunk and took her to the temple... but in doing so, I skipped the step related to the Quest: Spread the Good Word. Which obviously should have been activated after: Go Forth and Multiply. Can someone tell me what I did wrong? Should I reload a previous save? I have one... even if doing so would lose a couple of hours of gameplay...

Any info or advice is really appreciated.
Thank you
The Walkthrough regarding "Go forth and Multiply" appears to no longer be accurate, in my last playthrough and in someone else's experience a few pages back, "Go Forth" didn't complete until I got "Quest 174: Wandering Spirit", it won't affect your game, or keep any other quests from happening, you just won't finish "Go Forth" until you follow the spirit. (Recently there wasn't an option to talk about it with Ziva. In the past I completed it a dozen times the way the walkthrough says, but that was way before "Wandering Spirit" was completed.)
 
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The Walkthrough regarding "Go forth and Multiply" appears to no longer be accurate, in my last playthrough and in someone else's experience a few pages back, "Go Forth" didn't complete until I got "Quest 174: Wandering Spirit", it won't affect your game, or keep any other quests from happening, you just won't finish "Go Forth" until you follow the spirit.
Bahamut Zero I believe this is now the case as I've noticed this as well.
 
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The Walkthrough regarding "Go forth and Multiply" appears to no longer be accurate, in my last playthrough and in someone else's experience a few pages back, "Go Forth" didn't complete until I got "Quest 174: Wandering Spirit", it won't affect your game, or keep any other quests from happening, you just won't finish "Go Forth" until you follow the spirit. (There was never an option to talk about it with Ziva. In the past I completed it a dozen times the way the walkthrough says, but that was way before "Wandering Spirit" was completed.)
So in a way it's now difficult to get and finish these three quests in sequence?
Quest: Go Forth and Multiply -> Quest: Spread the Good Word -> Quest: Forsaken?

Except I purposely don't go to the tavern earlier than expected. Because it seems like Oksane appears there as soon as you have five children now. And not, as the guide says: Activation requirements: Must have completed the quest “Go Forth and Multiply”. You must have lied to Oksana after defeating Master.

Another problem I'm wondering now is how do I activate Quest 174: Wandering Spirit? Since I have to do the Quest: Mouths to Feed to do that? And to activate Mouths to Feed, I need the apparition to appear twice at the foot of the bed. And to do that, as I said, the game says I need to have at least five children in the temple. And I have seven or six, if the first one can't be counted. And that's what confuses me now.
 

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So in a way it's now difficult to get and finish these three quests in sequence?
Quest: Go Forth and Multiply -> Quest: Spread the Good Word -> Quest: Forsaken?

Except I purposely don't go to the tavern earlier than expected. Because it seems like Oksane appears there as soon as you have five children now. And not, as the guide says: Activation requirements: Must have completed the quest “Go Forth and Multiply”. You must have lied to Oksana after defeating Master.

Another problem I'm wondering now is how do I activate Quest 174: Wandering Spirit? Since I have to do the Quest: Mouths to Feed to do that? And to activate Mouths to Feed, I need the apparition to appear twice at the foot of the bed. And to do that, as I said, the game says I need to have at least five children in the temple. And I have seven or six, if the first one can't be counted. And that's what confuses me now.
Should be fine. Do "A Friend In Need" & you'll be sent with Oksana to do "Mouths To Feed".
 

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So in a way it's now difficult to get and finish these three quests in sequence?
Quest: Go Forth and Multiply -> Quest: Spread the Good Word -> Quest: Forsaken?

Except I purposely don't go to the tavern earlier than expected. Because it seems like Oksane appears there as soon as you have five children now. And not, as the guide says: Activation requirements: Must have completed the quest “Go Forth and Multiply”. You must have lied to Oksana after defeating Master.

Another problem I'm wondering now is how do I activate Quest 174: Wandering Spirit? Since I have to do the Quest: Mouths to Feed to do that? And to activate Mouths to Feed, I need the apparition to appear twice at the foot of the bed. And to do that, as I said, the game says I need to have at least five children in the temple. And I have seven or six, if the first one can't be counted. And that's what confuses me now.
IIRC "Spread The Good Word" and "Forsaken" now start when you talk to Ziva after the second bedside apparition. Haven't actually replayed that part since the change to "Go Forth And Multiply."
 
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Should be fine. Do "A Friend In Need" & you'll be sent with Oksana to do "Mouths To Feed".
I don't recall "A Friend In Need" and that phrase isn't coming up when I CTRL+F the walkthroughs. Maybe the wrong quest title?
 

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I thought that was the name of the quest after "Forsaken"? Or mabey I have gotten confused?
"Mouths To Feed" is the next Temple quest after "Spread The Good Word" and "Forsaken" are completed. Were you thinking of someone specific as the "Friend In Need?"
 

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IIRC "Spread The Good Word" and "Forsaken" now start when you talk to Ziva after the second bedside apparition. Haven't actually replayed that part since the change to "Go Forth And Multiply."
That's the problem. Forsaken appeared to me before the apparition appeared for the second time at the foot of the bed.
To be precise: i am doing this quest "Go Forth And Multiply."
I have 7 or 6 child in the temple. (7 if we count Alice's first child). Anyway with 6 child, the apparition only show one time at the foot of the bed. And during the exploration, when I entered the tavern, Oksane was already there and the MC took her to the temple right after. Without Ziva giving me the quest "Spread The Good Word".
So it's like I missed a quest. I'm trying to reload my game and sleep in the temple, hoping the apparition will sit on the edge of the bed again. So I can see it twice. But I think I'll have to reload my backup. And have to play through two hours again...
 

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That's the problem. Forsaken appeared to me before the apparition appeared for the second time at the foot of the bed.
To be precise: i am doing this quest "Go Forth And Multiply."
I have 7 or 6 child in the temple. (7 if we count Alice's first child). Anyway with 6 child, the apparition only show one time at the foot of the bed. And during the exploration, when I entered the tavern, Oksane was already there and the MC took her to the temple right after. Without Ziva giving me the quest "Spread The Good Word".
So it's like I missed a quest. I'm trying to reload my game and sleep in the temple, hoping the apparition will sit on the edge of the bed again. So I can see it twice. But I think I'll have to reload my backup. And have to play through two hours again...
I don't believe u NEED the second apparition bed visit before that anymore. I believe you should be good.
 
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