Griev

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The MC will love this when it happens, whether the reader does or not. Stef will then begin forcing these scenarios regularly, whether the reader wants them to happen or not. Choices abound!



Writing a sentence or two about how much an MC likes something does not make a reader also like that thing. Stef having the enthusiasm of a Fig Street whore working overtime while fucking the MC (come on...please...oh yeah...it's good...I came...) and then acting like a gorilla on PCP while fucking others (HRRNGGGGAAAAAHHHHFUCKKK *spasms wildly*) is not empowering or arousing to a non-cuck reader, it is emasculating and confusing.



The reader is forced to adopt the point of view of an emasculated cuck avatar who is tricked into loving whatever NTR-lite <thing> Stef is craving each update.
The CHARACTER in the game has an emotional reaction to something that may or may not be shared with the person playing it, because a dev can only program the MC, not the player. Same with all forms of entertainment.


I think this is the main issue right here. You're looking to be empowered irl by a fuckin porn game and when you're not, you feel emasculated and confused, by your own words. LOG OFF bruh, breathe and come back. You weren't emasculated by Steph, you were emasculated by yourself the second you decided to download and play a porn game for any sense of self worth and seeking to be empowered from watching pixels fuck.


No dev forces anyone to do SHIT. You decided to download their game for free on your own, you decided to play it on your own. You decided to continue playing it even though you were being "emasculated" by Steph's pixels. At any point YOU could have chosen to NOT do any of those. When you have a choice to NOT partake in an action, you aren't FORCED into that action.
 

DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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I've come to terms with the fact that the writing in this game is not going to set up route paths and kink selection in a satisfying way for many readers. I want to highlight the problems I personally have with this VN, on the off-chance the author will include more reader agency in the future or takes this into account when setting up stories for new games.

I felt hope at the start of this update, when the couple returned home to find their room unoccupied by an elderly glom-on sleeping naked in their bed. A swinging couple arriving home from a night out at the strip club, so amped up that they want to bang each other's brains out for hours? Awesome! The couple also established that Stef won't sleep around behind MC's back... but then in the very next sentence MC says he actually would enjoy walking in on Stef and Arnold banging behind his back and got a massive erection when talking about it. This all but confirms Stef will plan another "shocking" cheating feint in the future, whether the reader is getting sick of them or not. The MC will love this when it happens, whether the reader does or not. Stef will then begin forcing these scenarios regularly, whether the reader wants them to happen or not. Choices abound!

OK, not the biggest deal. Let's get back to that horned up, post strip club sex with the MC and his wife, a rare and welcome surprise!

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Oh no. I forgot...

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...Stef needs to include Arnold...

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...every...

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...single...

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...time.

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Don't Fear The Reaper has cowbell, Perfect Housewife has Arnold.

Writing a sentence or two about how much an MC likes something does not make a reader also like that thing. Stef having the enthusiasm of a Fig Street whore working overtime while fucking the MC (come on...please...oh yeah...it's good...I came...) and then acting like a gorilla on PCP while fucking others (HRRNGGGGAAAAAHHHHFUCKKK *spasms wildly*) is not empowering or arousing to a non-cuck reader, it is emasculating and confusing. Stef can't go a single day without multiple doses of Arnold dick, which is not equally true of the MC (she can seemingly go for weeks without him). The author shoehorns Arnold into basically every single sexual encounter the MC has with his wife, with zero reader input or narrative reason for him being included. I would not be shocked to find out the author is an old guy named Arnold that looks exactly like Arnold. It's getting to be author self-insert levels of comical how often his shriveled, ugly mug pops into a scene unprompted to fuck Stef in this "choice based" VN. A threesome is set up by Stef with another girl later in this update... HOT! But it won't be a threesome, because Stef has also invited Arnold for....reasons, and she will be busy jerking him off in the background while he four-finger fucks her. We all know shots of geezers getting jerked off by our wives while awkwardly watching us fuck a stripper makes every almost-threesome that much hotter, right guys!? Stef was really prioritizing MC's needs there. After all, what fun would a FFM encounter be without including the same 75 year old conman beggar who's been monopolizing MC's wife in 9 out of every 10 scenes throughout the game?

How about an option, one single time in this game, to say Sit down and watch or go away Arnold, I don't like you and I'm fucking my wife alone for the first time in a month right now. How about an option to talk with Stef about not wanting to rub balls with Arnold and bathe in his wild jizz spew each time MC wants to fuck his wife? There are many "see it or skip it" options for scenes with other bulls in this game, but Arnold is guaranteed action if he's within a 20 mile radius of Stef when she's thinking about sex. If Stef will only fuck her husband during group scenes now, how about giving readers the choice to invite Erik over, or the boss, instead of Arnold? I'd even accept the mentally handicapped guy at this point, which is really saying something. Make Arnold sit on his thumbs and watch, or forget about him in his room for a change. Forcing Arnold (or a group of old men if Arnold has taken it upon himself to invite the nursing home to MC's house) into every intimate encounter the MC has with his wife is not the ideal "Perfect Housewife" scenario for a sizable percentage of readers. The author sets up a variety of male and female partners for the couple, but this is really the Arnold and Stef show. Stef is doing all the things an author-controlled, beta-cuck husband who loves geriatric sex with a conman would enjoy, she's not presenting a variety of options that readers might want to experience while share/swinging with their "Perfect Housewife."

If MC wasn't such a dense wimp, it might have dawned on him that Stef probably stopped by Arnold's room while "cleaning up," just like she did last time, and told him to come out naked later that night because she wanted to fuck him. Why else would a "respectful, good guy" walk out naked and rock hard like that as a guest in someone's house? Why else would Stef insist on fucking noisily outside Arnold's door while peeking on him through the keyhole? This game is full of oddly placed NTR-lite inferences, creating a sense of mistrust and tension that belies Stef's motivations. Why is this woman unable to have passionate one-on-one sex with her husband? If she's able, why has she not once wanted to since they began "sharing?" Her actions throughout the game are sheisty, this is just one example. The MC loves being cucked, but readers who don't share the same preference will always be put off by this story because the only thought process MC has is I told her not to do that but she did anyways and now I have an erection so she must have done the right thing! A selfish wife running the show is standard fare for a traditional NTR story, which this author is basically following beat by beat, except for the occasional "remember, I love and respect my husband" from Stef and an "I love being cucked so much I jerked off 8 times in 3 minutes" from MC. The reader is supposed to believe simultaneously that 1. Stef would never do NTR stuff to the MC (reader), and 2. MC (author) and Stef both get really turned on by NTR stuff. Stef is constantly pushing the boundaries of what even cuck-MC is comfortable with. The couple's experimentation process is Stef saying "I would never do <thing> honey," then later tricking MC into thinking <thing> happened because she likes it or her grandpa boyfriend(s) ask for it, with MC inevitably coming around to say "Wow it turns out when you did <thing> against my wishes I got an erection so I'm not even mad about it now!" Then Stef does <thing> with zero MC or reader input for the rest of the story. Later on a new and more depraved <thing #2> is desired by Stef and the process resets.

What a reader wants to see doesn't matter to the author of this story. The reader is forced to adopt the point of view of an emasculated cuck avatar who is tricked into loving whatever NTR-lite <thing> Stef is craving each update. If reader input isn't going to alter a story (outside of "watch this scene? y/n"), included kinks, or character motivations, why write a choice based VN in the first place? This probably would have been fine as a single path graphic novel instead, especially if the author leaned into the NTR setups they love creating but keep backing out of prematurely. Call the novel Stef Craves the Geriatric NTR Guys and Cucky Trusts Her so readers who enjoy choices and kink variety don't waste their time, everyone wins!
What the fuck did you think NTR stood for, Nice Touchy Romance :ROFLMAO:
 
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I've come to terms with the fact that the writing in this game is not going to set up route paths and kink selection in a satisfying way for many readers. I want to highlight the problems I personally have with this VN, on the off-chance the author will include more reader agency in the future or takes this into account when setting up stories for new games.

I felt hope at the start of this update, when the couple returned home to find their room unoccupied by an elderly glom-on sleeping naked in their bed. A swinging couple arriving home from a night out at the strip club, so amped up that they want to bang each other's brains out for hours? Awesome! The couple also established that Stef won't sleep around behind MC's back... but then in the very next sentence MC says he actually would enjoy walking in on Stef and Arnold banging behind his back and got a massive erection when talking about it. This all but confirms Stef will plan another "shocking" cheating feint in the future, whether the reader is getting sick of them or not. The MC will love this when it happens, whether the reader does or not. Stef will then begin forcing these scenarios regularly, whether the reader wants them to happen or not. Choices abound!

OK, not the biggest deal. Let's get back to that horned up, post strip club sex with the MC and his wife, a rare and welcome surprise!

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Oh no. I forgot...

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...Stef needs to include Arnold...

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...every...

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...single...

View attachment 3165316

...time.

View attachment 3165283

Don't Fear The Reaper has cowbell, Perfect Housewife has Arnold.

Writing a sentence or two about how much an MC likes something does not make a reader also like that thing. Stef having the enthusiasm of a Fig Street whore working overtime while fucking the MC (come on...please...oh yeah...it's good...I came...) and then acting like a gorilla on PCP while fucking others (HRRNGGGGAAAAAHHHHFUCKKK *spasms wildly*) is not empowering or arousing to a non-cuck reader, it is emasculating and confusing. Stef can't go a single day without multiple doses of Arnold dick, which is not equally true of the MC (she can seemingly go for weeks without him). The author shoehorns Arnold into basically every single sexual encounter the MC has with his wife, with zero reader input or narrative reason for him being included. I would not be shocked to find out the author is an old guy named Arnold that looks exactly like Arnold. It's getting to be author self-insert levels of comical how often his shriveled, ugly mug pops into a scene unprompted to fuck Stef in this "choice based" VN. A threesome is set up by Stef with another girl later in this update... HOT! But it won't be a threesome, because Stef has also invited Arnold for....reasons, and she will be busy jerking him off in the background while he four-finger fucks her. We all know shots of geezers getting jerked off by our wives while awkwardly watching us fuck a stripper makes every almost-threesome that much hotter, right guys!? Stef was really prioritizing MC's needs there. After all, what fun would a FFM encounter be without including the same 75 year old conman beggar who's been monopolizing MC's wife in 9 out of every 10 scenes throughout the game?

How about an option, one single time in this game, to say Sit down and watch or go away Arnold, I don't like you and I'm fucking my wife alone for the first time in a month right now. How about an option to talk with Stef about not wanting to rub balls with Arnold and bathe in his wild jizz spew each time MC wants to fuck his wife? There are many "see it or skip it" options for scenes with other bulls in this game, but Arnold is guaranteed action if he's within a 20 mile radius of Stef when she's thinking about sex. If Stef will only fuck her husband during group scenes now, how about giving readers the choice to invite Erik over, or the boss, instead of Arnold? I'd even accept the mentally handicapped guy at this point, which is really saying something. Make Arnold sit on his thumbs and watch, or forget about him in his room for a change. Forcing Arnold (or a group of old men if Arnold has taken it upon himself to invite the nursing home to MC's house) into every intimate encounter the MC has with his wife is not the ideal "Perfect Housewife" scenario for a sizable percentage of readers. The author sets up a variety of male and female partners for the couple, but this is really the Arnold and Stef show. Stef is doing all the things an author-controlled, beta-cuck husband who loves geriatric sex with a conman would enjoy, she's not presenting a variety of options that readers might want to experience while share/swinging with their "Perfect Housewife."

If MC wasn't such a dense wimp, it might have dawned on him that Stef probably stopped by Arnold's room while "cleaning up," just like she did last time, and told him to come out naked later that night because she wanted to fuck him. Why else would a "respectful, good guy" walk out naked and rock hard like that as a guest in someone's house? Why else would Stef insist on fucking noisily outside Arnold's door while peeking on him through the keyhole? This game is full of oddly placed NTR-lite inferences, creating a sense of mistrust and tension that belies Stef's motivations. Why is this woman unable to have passionate one-on-one sex with her husband? If she's able, why has she not once wanted to since they began "sharing?" Her actions throughout the game are sheisty, this is just one example. The MC loves being cucked, but readers who don't share the same preference will always be put off by this story because the only thought process MC has is I told her not to do that but she did anyways and now I have an erection so she must have done the right thing! A selfish wife running the show is standard fare for a traditional NTR story, which this author is basically following beat by beat, except for the occasional "remember, I love and respect my husband" from Stef and an "I love being cucked so much I jerked off 8 times in 3 minutes" from MC. The reader is supposed to believe simultaneously that 1. Stef would never do NTR stuff to the MC (reader), and 2. MC (author) and Stef both get really turned on by NTR stuff. Stef is constantly pushing the boundaries of what even cuck-MC is comfortable with. The couple's experimentation process is Stef saying "I would never do <thing> honey," then later tricking MC into thinking <thing> happened because she likes it or her grandpa boyfriend(s) ask for it, with MC inevitably coming around to say "Wow it turns out when you did <thing> against my wishes I got an erection so I'm not even mad about it now!" Then Stef does <thing> with zero MC or reader input for the rest of the story. Later on a new and more depraved <thing #2> is desired by Stef and the process resets.

What a reader wants to see doesn't matter to the author of this story. The reader is forced to adopt the point of view of an emasculated cuck avatar who is tricked into loving whatever NTR-lite <thing> Stef is craving each update. If reader input isn't going to alter a story (outside of "watch this scene? y/n"), included kinks, or character motivations, why write a choice based VN in the first place? This probably would have been fine as a single path graphic novel instead, especially if the author leaned into the NTR setups they love creating but keep backing out of prematurely. Call the novel Stef Craves the Geriatric NTR Guys and Cucky Trusts Her so readers who enjoy choices and kink variety don't waste their time, everyone wins!
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BBC King

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I've come to terms with the fact that the writing in this game is not going to set up route paths and kink selection in a satisfying way for many readers. I want to highlight the problems I personally have with this VN, on the off-chance the author will include more reader agency in the future or takes this into account when setting up stories for new games.

I felt hope at the start of this update, when the couple returned home to find their room unoccupied by an elderly glom-on sleeping naked in their bed. A swinging couple arriving home from a night out at the strip club, so amped up that they want to bang each other's brains out for hours? Awesome! The couple also established that Stef won't sleep around behind MC's back... but then in the very next sentence MC says he actually would enjoy walking in on Stef and Arnold banging behind his back and got a massive erection when talking about it. This all but confirms Stef will plan another "shocking" cheating feint in the future, whether the reader is getting sick of them or not. The MC will love this when it happens, whether the reader does or not. Stef will then begin forcing these scenarios regularly, whether the reader wants them to happen or not. Choices abound!

OK, not the biggest deal. Let's get back to that horned up, post strip club sex with the MC and his wife, a rare and welcome surprise!

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Oh no. I forgot...

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...Stef needs to include Arnold...

View attachment 3165256
View attachment 3165257

...every...

View attachment 3165258

...single...

View attachment 3165316

...time.

View attachment 3165283

Don't Fear The Reaper has cowbell, Perfect Housewife has Arnold.

Writing a sentence or two about how much an MC likes something does not make a reader also like that thing. Stef having the enthusiasm of a Fig Street whore working overtime while fucking the MC (come on...please...oh yeah...it's good...I came...) and then acting like a gorilla on PCP while fucking others (HRRNGGGGAAAAAHHHHFUCKKK *spasms wildly*) is not empowering or arousing to a non-cuck reader, it is emasculating and confusing. Stef can't go a single day without multiple doses of Arnold dick, which is not equally true of the MC (she can seemingly go for weeks without him). The author shoehorns Arnold into basically every single sexual encounter the MC has with his wife, with zero reader input or narrative reason for him being included. I would not be shocked to find out the author is an old guy named Arnold that looks exactly like Arnold. It's getting to be author self-insert levels of comical how often his shriveled, ugly mug pops into a scene unprompted to fuck Stef in this "choice based" VN. A threesome is set up by Stef with another girl later in this update... HOT! But it won't be a threesome, because Stef has also invited Arnold for....reasons, and she will be busy jerking him off in the background while he four-finger fucks her. We all know shots of geezers getting jerked off by our wives while awkwardly watching us fuck a stripper makes every almost-threesome that much hotter, right guys!? Stef was really prioritizing MC's needs there. After all, what fun would a FFM encounter be without including the same 75 year old conman beggar who's been monopolizing MC's wife in 9 out of every 10 scenes throughout the game?

How about an option, one single time in this game, to say Sit down and watch or go away Arnold, I don't like you and I'm fucking my wife alone for the first time in a month right now. How about an option to talk with Stef about not wanting to rub balls with Arnold and bathe in his wild jizz spew each time MC wants to fuck his wife? There are many "see it or skip it" options for scenes with other bulls in this game, but Arnold is guaranteed action if he's within a 20 mile radius of Stef when she's thinking about sex. If Stef will only fuck her husband during group scenes now, how about giving readers the choice to invite Erik over, or the boss, instead of Arnold? I'd even accept the mentally handicapped guy at this point, which is really saying something. Make Arnold sit on his thumbs and watch, or forget about him in his room for a change. Forcing Arnold (or a group of old men if Arnold has taken it upon himself to invite the nursing home to MC's house) into every intimate encounter the MC has with his wife is not the ideal "Perfect Housewife" scenario for a sizable percentage of readers. The author sets up a variety of male and female partners for the couple, but this is really the Arnold and Stef show. Stef is doing all the things an author-controlled, beta-cuck husband who loves geriatric sex with a conman would enjoy, she's not presenting a variety of options that readers might want to experience while share/swinging with their "Perfect Housewife."

If MC wasn't such a dense wimp, it might have dawned on him that Stef probably stopped by Arnold's room while "cleaning up," just like she did last time, and told him to come out naked later that night because she wanted to fuck him. Why else would a "respectful, good guy" walk out naked and rock hard like that as a guest in someone's house? Why else would Stef insist on fucking noisily outside Arnold's door while peeking on him through the keyhole? This game is full of oddly placed NTR-lite inferences, creating a sense of mistrust and tension that belies Stef's motivations. Why is this woman unable to have passionate one-on-one sex with her husband? If she's able, why has she not once wanted to since they began "sharing?" Her actions throughout the game are sheisty, this is just one example. The MC loves being cucked, but readers who don't share the same preference will always be put off by this story because the only thought process MC has is I told her not to do that but she did anyways and now I have an erection so she must have done the right thing! A selfish wife running the show is standard fare for a traditional NTR story, which this author is basically following beat by beat, except for the occasional "remember, I love and respect my husband" from Stef and an "I love being cucked so much I jerked off 8 times in 3 minutes" from MC. The reader is supposed to believe simultaneously that 1. Stef would never do NTR stuff to the MC (reader), and 2. MC (author) and Stef both get really turned on by NTR stuff. Stef is constantly pushing the boundaries of what even cuck-MC is comfortable with. The couple's experimentation process is Stef saying "I would never do <thing> honey," then later tricking MC into thinking <thing> happened because she likes it or her grandpa boyfriend(s) ask for it, with MC inevitably coming around to say "Wow it turns out when you did <thing> against my wishes I got an erection so I'm not even mad about it now!" Then Stef does <thing> with zero MC or reader input for the rest of the story. Later on a new and more depraved <thing #2> is desired by Stef and the process resets.

What a reader wants to see doesn't matter to the author of this story. The reader is forced to adopt the point of view of an emasculated cuck avatar who is tricked into loving whatever NTR-lite <thing> Stef is craving each update. If reader input isn't going to alter a story (outside of "watch this scene? y/n"), included kinks, or character motivations, why write a choice based VN in the first place? This probably would have been fine as a single path graphic novel instead, especially if the author leaned into the NTR setups they love creating but keep backing out of prematurely. Call the novel Stef Craves the Geriatric NTR Guys and Cucky Trusts Her so readers who enjoy choices and kink variety don't waste their time, everyone wins!
Bro wrote a full dissertation about not wanting to see old man penis fucking his virtual wife.
 

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I've come to terms with the fact that the writing in this game is not going to set up route paths and kink selection in a satisfying way for many readers. I want to highlight the problems I personally have with this VN, on the off-chance the author will include more reader agency in the future or takes this into account when setting up stories for new games.

I felt hope at the start of this update, when the couple returned home to find their room unoccupied by an elderly glom-on sleeping naked in their bed. A swinging couple arriving home from a night out at the strip club, so amped up that they want to bang each other's brains out for hours? Awesome! The couple also established that Stef won't sleep around behind MC's back... but then in the very next sentence MC says he actually would enjoy walking in on Stef and Arnold banging behind his back and got a massive erection when talking about it. This all but confirms Stef will plan another "shocking" cheating feint in the future, whether the reader is getting sick of them or not. The MC will love this when it happens, whether the reader does or not. Stef will then begin forcing these scenarios regularly, whether the reader wants them to happen or not. Choices abound!

OK, not the biggest deal. Let's get back to that horned up, post strip club sex with the MC and his wife, a rare and welcome surprise!

View attachment 3165251
View attachment 3165252

Oh no. I forgot...

View attachment 3165254
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...Stef needs to include Arnold...

View attachment 3165256
View attachment 3165257

...every...

View attachment 3165258

...single...

View attachment 3165316

...time.

View attachment 3165283

Don't Fear The Reaper has cowbell, Perfect Housewife has Arnold.

Writing a sentence or two about how much an MC likes something does not make a reader also like that thing. Stef having the enthusiasm of a Fig Street whore working overtime while fucking the MC (come on...please...oh yeah...it's good...I came...) and then acting like a gorilla on PCP while fucking others (HRRNGGGGAAAAAHHHHFUCKKK *spasms wildly*) is not empowering or arousing to a non-cuck reader, it is emasculating and confusing. Stef can't go a single day without multiple doses of Arnold dick, which is not equally true of the MC (she can seemingly go for weeks without him). The author shoehorns Arnold into basically every single sexual encounter the MC has with his wife, with zero reader input or narrative reason for him being included. I would not be shocked to find out the author is an old guy named Arnold that looks exactly like Arnold. It's getting to be author self-insert levels of comical how often his shriveled, ugly mug pops into a scene unprompted to fuck Stef in this "choice based" VN. A threesome is set up by Stef with another girl later in this update... HOT! But it won't be a threesome, because Stef has also invited Arnold for....reasons, and she will be busy jerking him off in the background while he four-finger fucks her. We all know shots of geezers getting jerked off by our wives while awkwardly watching us fuck a stripper makes every almost-threesome that much hotter, right guys!? Stef was really prioritizing MC's needs there. After all, what fun would a FFM encounter be without including the same 75 year old conman beggar who's been monopolizing MC's wife in 9 out of every 10 scenes throughout the game?

How about an option, one single time in this game, to say Sit down and watch or go away Arnold, I don't like you and I'm fucking my wife alone for the first time in a month right now. How about an option to talk with Stef about not wanting to rub balls with Arnold and bathe in his wild jizz spew each time MC wants to fuck his wife? There are many "see it or skip it" options for scenes with other bulls in this game, but Arnold is guaranteed action if he's within a 20 mile radius of Stef when she's thinking about sex. If Stef will only fuck her husband during group scenes now, how about giving readers the choice to invite Erik over, or the boss, instead of Arnold? I'd even accept the mentally handicapped guy at this point, which is really saying something. Make Arnold sit on his thumbs and watch, or forget about him in his room for a change. Forcing Arnold (or a group of old men if Arnold has taken it upon himself to invite the nursing home to MC's house) into every intimate encounter the MC has with his wife is not the ideal "Perfect Housewife" scenario for a sizable percentage of readers. The author sets up a variety of male and female partners for the couple, but this is really the Arnold and Stef show. Stef is doing all the things an author-controlled, beta-cuck husband who loves geriatric sex with a conman would enjoy, she's not presenting a variety of options that readers might want to experience while share/swinging with their "Perfect Housewife."

If MC wasn't such a dense wimp, it might have dawned on him that Stef probably stopped by Arnold's room while "cleaning up," just like she did last time, and told him to come out naked later that night because she wanted to fuck him. Why else would a "respectful, good guy" walk out naked and rock hard like that as a guest in someone's house? Why else would Stef insist on fucking noisily outside Arnold's door while peeking on him through the keyhole? This game is full of oddly placed NTR-lite inferences, creating a sense of mistrust and tension that belies Stef's motivations. Why is this woman unable to have passionate one-on-one sex with her husband? If she's able, why has she not once wanted to since they began "sharing?" Her actions throughout the game are sheisty, this is just one example. The MC loves being cucked, but readers who don't share the same preference will always be put off by this story because the only thought process MC has is I told her not to do that but she did anyways and now I have an erection so she must have done the right thing! A selfish wife running the show is standard fare for a traditional NTR story, which this author is basically following beat by beat, except for the occasional "remember, I love and respect my husband" from Stef and an "I love being cucked so much I jerked off 8 times in 3 minutes" from MC. The reader is supposed to believe simultaneously that 1. Stef would never do NTR stuff to the MC (reader), and 2. MC (author) and Stef both get really turned on by NTR stuff. Stef is constantly pushing the boundaries of what even cuck-MC is comfortable with. The couple's experimentation process is Stef saying "I would never do <thing> honey," then later tricking MC into thinking <thing> happened because she likes it or her grandpa boyfriend(s) ask for it, with MC inevitably coming around to say "Wow it turns out when you did <thing> against my wishes I got an erection so I'm not even mad about it now!" Then Stef does <thing> with zero MC or reader input for the rest of the story. Later on a new and more depraved <thing #2> is desired by Stef and the process resets.

What a reader wants to see doesn't matter to the author of this story. The reader is forced to adopt the point of view of an emasculated cuck avatar who is tricked into loving whatever NTR-lite <thing> Stef is craving each update. If reader input isn't going to alter a story (outside of "watch this scene? y/n"), included kinks, or character motivations, why write a choice based VN in the first place? This probably would have been fine as a single path graphic novel instead, especially if the author leaned into the NTR setups they love creating but keep backing out of prematurely. Call the novel Stef Craves the Geriatric NTR Guys and Cucky Trusts Her so readers who enjoy choices and kink variety don't waste their time, everyone wins!
Heh, I think you missed the entire story of this game. Stef is ACTIVELY doing NTR to her husband with Arnold. And if by some miracle Arnold isn't around, she does the NTR to her husband with any other dude with a pulse and larger dick, every time.

This is a CUCK/NTR game, where the wife is ACTIVELY doing NTR to her husband because SHE has found the dude she really wants toi have sex with, Arnold, and NOT her husband.

No idea why people still think this is a swinging type game when Stef has been actively doing NTR from the moment she was giving Arnold a BJ and told the husband she wasn't. She is actively controlling the action, not the MC/hubbins. It's amusing because this is one of the first games on F95 where the WIFE is aggressively doing NTR, on purpose, and not the 'victom' of some dude that does the "rape until you fall in love" trope or the "I'll do the worse action of having sex, to not have some minimal incident broadcast that would embarrass me/husband/family" trope that predominate NTR in the vast majorty of the games here.

View this gfame one of two ways.. 1) install the incest patch so Arnold ifs Stef's dad and you'll be in nincest heaven. 2) Understand that Stef if the NTR instigator, and she's not the 'victim' here, she's the organizer and main proponent of NTR because she realized very early on her hubbins is a cuck, and stupid to boot, and that gives her free reign to do anything and everything she wants, with whomever she wants, because she knows there will never be a negative consequence to her. Worst case, her husband tries to grow a spine and she has sex with him, or otherwise outsmarts him and convinces him it's his fgault, or it was his idea for her to do all the acts she has, and she's only doing it for him...

Stef is only the "perfect housewife" if you like the idea of being a cuck MC in the game, or just want to see the typical "slut wife" game, as if she is the MC and not her husband. Actually Stef really is the MC, just the player can't control her, because she's literally organizing every single event in the game.
 

SoiCowboy

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When I read a book, I don't say, "Oh shit! Gandalf just died!", and rip the page out of the novel because I didn't like the outcome. No, I keep reading so the author can continue the story... his story.

For example, in TAC and TACOS, if you tell Anne "No," then you're in for a pretty vanilla story and sometimes she'll get pretty pissed at the MC. We make the choices in those games/VNs because we will see the content. After all, I am not Steph's husband. I am an outside observer. It's not me getting cucked, it's Oliver. I don't need him to "grow a spine" because I'm not him. I am just watching and daring Steph to keep giving us thrills.

I just don't see how people can get upset with Oliver or Steph. Steph is doing what Oliver wants her to do. Will she end up being like Anne of TAC/TACOS? Maybe, but I can imagine, probably not. It depends on the DEV. I am reading his/her story, not the story everybody else wants.

Some of you with better memories than me, can you answer this question: Is there a Yes/No choice everytime Steph wants to get friskie? If there is than these people who are upset are making the wrong decisions. It's the same thing with TAC. Anne hooks up with her father-in-law because the reader made that choice and is now pissed off at her. What The Actual Fuck!

I think some of the readers of this VN should "grow a spine" and remove themselves from its narrative and treat this like a movie where you have no input as to its outcome. And if you don't like the movie, stand up, put your popcorn down, and leave the theater.
 

Ru1n

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Heh, I think you missed the entire story of this game. Stef is ACTIVELY doing NTR to her husband with Arnold. And if by some miracle Arnold isn't around, she does the NTR to her husband with any other dude with a pulse and larger dick, every time.

This is a CUCK/NTR game, where the wife is ACTIVELY doing NTR to her husband because SHE has found the dude she really wants toi have sex with, Arnold, and NOT her husband.

No idea why people still think this is a swinging type game when Stef has been actively doing NTR from the moment she was giving Arnold a BJ and told the husband she wasn't. She is actively controlling the action, not the MC/hubbins. It's amusing because this is one of the first games on F95 where the WIFE is aggressively doing NTR, on purpose, and not the 'victom' of some dude that does the "rape until you fall in love" trope or the "I'll do the worse action of having sex, to not have some minimal incident broadcast that would embarrass me/husband/family" trope that predominate NTR in the vast majorty of the games here.

View this gfame one of two ways.. 1) install the incest patch so Arnold ifs Stef's dad and you'll be in nincest heaven. 2) Understand that Stef if the NTR instigator, and she's not the 'victim' here, she's the organizer and main proponent of NTR because she realized very early on her hubbins is a cuck, and stupid to boot, and that gives her free reign to do anything and everything she wants, with whomever she wants, because she knows there will never be a negative consequence to her. Worst case, her husband tries to grow a spine and she has sex with him, or otherwise outsmarts him and convinces him it's his fgault, or it was his idea for her to do all the acts she has, and she's only doing it for him...

Stef is only the "perfect housewife" if you like the idea of being a cuck MC in the game, or just want to see the typical "slut wife" game, as if she is the MC and not her husband. Actually Stef really is the MC, just the player can't control her, because she's literally organizing every single event in the game.
Dude, cucks don't get to fuck, and MC gets plenty of fucking alright.
Dev also wrote what's up, you making shit up won't change that.
 

Griev

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When I read a book, I don't say, "Oh shit! Gandalf just died!", and rip the page out of the novel because I didn't like the outcome. No, I keep reading so the author can continue the story... his story.

For example, in TAC and TACOS, if you tell Anne "No," then you're in for a pretty vanilla story and sometimes she'll get pretty pissed at the MC. We make the choices in those games/VNs because we will see the content. After all, I am not Steph's husband. I am an outside observer. It's not me getting cucked, it's Oliver. I don't need him to "grow a spine" because I'm not him. I am just watching and daring Steph to keep giving us thrills.

I just don't see how people can get upset with Oliver or Steph. Steph is doing what Oliver wants her to do. Will she end up being like Anne of TAC/TACOS? Maybe, but I can imagine, probably not. It depends on the DEV. I am reading his/her story, not the story everybody else wants.

Some of you with better memories than me, can you answer this question: Is there a Yes/No choice everytime Steph wants to get friskie? If there is than these people who are upset are making the wrong decisions. It's the same thing with TAC. Anne hooks up with her father-in-law because the reader made that choice and is now pissed off at her. What The Actual Fuck!

I think some of the readers of this VN should "grow a spine" and remove themselves from its narrative and treat this like a movie where you have no input as to its outcome. And if you don't like the movie, stand up, put your popcorn down, and leave the theater.
OMFG! Hahaha TRUUUUEEEEE! ALL of it, all of this!
Dudes Self-inserting themselves into a story that they have 0 control over because it's a story about Oliver and Steph, and not THEM are angry with decision that the individual characters make. The story tells you within the first few minutes that you're gonna be watching an MC that gets horny at the VERY THOUGHT of seeing his wife with another guy. So if that isn't YOUR particular kink why even try to self-insert here?

ALL Female Protag games will have some portion of the comments complaining that its "just another fuck-fest, fem protag game" when they have complete autonomy to make choices to not be sexual interact with anyone lol. In THIS game, the OP states what it is, A wife sharing game! YET, you get comments that try to force the dev into making it an NTR cheating game because that's THEIR kink. "Don't make the game YOU want, make the game I want!"
I bounced all over the place there but I say all this because, when paired with my previous post, there's never, EVER a reason to be upset with what happens in a game, or feel forced into doing something in a game. You ALWAYS have the choice to just fuck off, either by selecting a decision in the game or having the self control to simply not partake in playing that particular game.

Personally, I wouldn't want an old dude to fuck my wife lol. Luckily this is a game, so I don't feel emasculated watching MC get cucked. IT'S NOT ME! It's a guy(character) that actually enjoys it, having a great time with his wife.

Dude, cucks don't get to fuck, and MC gets plenty of fucking alright.
Dev also wrote what's up, you making shit up won't change that.
Dude comes back every few weeks to post a wall of WRONG, gets proven incorrect and disappears, only to return and repeat the process. Even the Dev has proven him wrong, he just likes attention.
 

Adamska

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I don't understand your contempt!!! however, if you have followed all the dialogues, you will know that Stefany and Oliver have fun, as far as sex between husband and wife is concerned, they don't do it just because at this moment they have become three in the den....
Sorry, but this is a porn game not a rewrite of "Gone With The Wind" It is very insightful, but if you want to use your talents to write a critique with this much depth, you need to get a job with the Washington Post.
The CHARACTER in the game has an emotional reaction to something that may or may not be shared with the person playing it, because a dev can only program the MC, not the player. Same with all forms of entertainment.
This is why I wrote things like "the problems I personally have" and complained from the perspective of one reader giving feedback, not from the MC who clearly likes what's going on. I'm looking for kinky scenes that don't routinely involve the same character. I understand that it's me that doesn't want to see the Arnold train running 24/7, but I imagine I'm not the only reader in that camp. More skip / variety options would be nice.

Notice how I include examples from the story to highlight my points when I have a complaint, while many you guys like to jump right to personal attacks for some reason without addressing them? It's possible to dislike something, voice an opinion on it, but not be "upset" or to need a "breather" to remain emotionally stable. I don't have contempt for the story, I just think it could be better and wanted to weigh in. You guys are allowed to TLDR if you want, this is a forum to write about porn games so I'm going to do that sometimes. Let's not take ourselves too seriously here, after all what else am I supposed to do when I finish up my daily WaPo articles early?


you feel emasculated and confused, by your own words.
No, I said the experience of getting an "oh yeah... that's good... mhm... oh look I came" from your wife, then watching her act like a gorilla on PCP with every other man she fucks, is emasculating and confusing. The MC clearly likes being emasculated and confused, but I stopped self inserting in this story a long time ago so don't worry about me. You seem very invested and defensive of this story, are you OK? I didn't mean to hurt you with my words.


What the fuck did you think NTR stood for, Nice Touchy Romance :ROFLMAO:
Part of my problem with this story is that it keeps teasing NTR (I was calling it "NTR-lite") but never goes balls deep into it. I'd love to see an actual NTR route with Stef, it would make for a hotter story in my opinion.


Here you go, I made a nice little gif of your favorite game for you to use as your signature
I threw up a little in my mouth but I'll still save this forever and treasure it, thank you for taking the time.


Bro wrote a full dissertation about not wanting to see old man penis fucking his virtual wife.
My virtual wife is way hotter and smarter and cooler and would never fuck Arnold, but she goes to another school so I can't introduce her to you right now.
 

Fascorslolen

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This is the second preview of the next update.

After the night spent at Dante's house, Stefany and Oliver return home, and for the first time in a long time they are alone because Arnold stayed with his friends Frank and Tony.

In the first image Stefany has returned from dinner at Dante's house very horny and wanting to be fucked, so she teases Oliver, obviously he doesn't take any time.

In the second image Stefany makes the videocall from the spa, and explains to Oliver that the old men are begging her to play with their cocks, what will Oliver do?

Let me know in the comments what you think.

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