Disgruntler

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Inb4 the guessing game with the "What if" episodes where you don't really find out until you play it whether it has cursed tags or not.

Or you can wade through thread comments to find a clear answer... to which I say good luck XP
If you got 'trapped' by a game with the tag 'swinger' because it has swinging, that's on you. No one cares that you got triggered by your own lack of attentiveness.
 

Disgruntler

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are you daft mate?

Each "What if" is different, that tag only applies to one of them (maybe 2, don't remember), meanwhile another "what if" is the harem but in medieval fantasy times.

So prey tell MR Genius, how are you supposed to know which of those episodes is swinging and which aren't? when the tags and genre are on the thread and not on the individual episodes hmmm?

O wait that's right, you can't... Cause it doesn't say.

And before you try to make some bs argument about "The names", let me ruin that too.

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Here are the names, none of them explicitly tell you what the tags are.

For example: Pornstars, could just be that MC and his harem are pornstars, or it could be the girls are pornstars and it is a gangbang swinging frenzy. Vera's wild wish, could be some bdsm, exhibitionism, swinging, Netorase etc.

Btw: in case it isn't obvious, Legend of Shinyrost, is the one where it is MC and his harem but in medieval fantasy.

But as you can clearly see, it isn't a "game" with the swinging tag, but a "Thread" with the swinging tag, because one or more (but not all) of the scenario's has that tag.
At least double check yourself before you say something stupid.
So you're complaint is that they're all in the same thread and that a single thread's tags might apply to one or all the games and this requires complaining on an unrelated game.

Got it, Karen.
 

PsybehrWolf

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You don't need to tell people you aren't going to play something, not a single person here gives a shit.
Wait! I think I...nope...just gas...false alarm...
and people who would get upset over a "what if..." and stop playing the main Virtues...that's just silly! The dev for Power Vacuum is doing something similar, and since it's not my vibe, I just pass, and continue to enjoy the game! But I mean, for realz! That's like getting upset at Marvel Comics for killing off Spiderman in the What-If where he continues to where the "Black Costume" aka Venom back in the day, and swearing off Spiderman comics! DC has it's Else Worlds, which are even more imaginative in that regard, yet you never hear of people swearing off those titles because "ermahgahd! Gotham by Gaslight!" I'll pass on the What Ifs until Virtues is complete, though I'll probably continue to because unavoidable ntr and such ain't my gig. For now, looking forward to this game.
 

LordMerek

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Wait! I think I...nope...just gas...false alarm...
and people who would get upset over a "what if..." and stop playing the main Virtues...that's just silly! The dev for Power Vacuum is doing something similar, and since it's not my vibe, I just pass, and continue to enjoy the game! But I mean, for realz! That's like getting upset at Marvel Comics for killing off Spiderman in the What-If where he continues to where the "Black Costume" aka Venom back in the day, and swearing off Spiderman comics! DC has it's Else Worlds, which are even more imaginative in that regard, yet you never hear of people swearing off those titles because "ermahgahd! Gotham by Gaslight!" I'll pass on the What Ifs until Virtues is complete, though I'll probably continue to because unavoidable ntr and such ain't my gig. For now, looking forward to this game.
Because these "What If" scenarios shouldn't exist. If a game/story is dedicated to a specific genre it should stick to that. These alternate scenarios create reasons to no longer care about the characters if things were just a little bit different (and that's a stretch) the characters (including yours) would make completely asinine decisions that don't fit with their characters at all and might as well be other characters.

Ecchi Sensei did this in one of their specials, it makes no sense and you have no control over the situation to fix it because the decisions weren't yours. These scenarios, at least for me, leave a bad taste in my mouth, and even though I know they're a "What If" scenario, I'll still have that garbage lingering in the back of my mind and such things can't be undone.
 

hobobobb

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Because these "What If" scenarios shouldn't exist. If a game/story is dedicated to a specific genre it should stick to that. These alternate scenarios create reasons to no longer care about the characters if things were just a little bit different (and that's a stretch) the characters (including yours) would make completely asinine decisions that don't fit with their characters at all and might as well be other characters.

Ecchi Sensei did this in one of their specials, it makes no sense and you have no control over the situation to fix it because the decisions weren't yours. These scenarios, at least for me, leave a bad taste in my mouth, and even though I know they're a "What If" scenario, I'll still have that garbage lingering in the back of my mind and such things can't be undone.
I am kind of in the same camp as you.

For me, it's always a question of Trust & Support which directly relates to Dev time/attention.

In my mind, and everyone can feel free to disagree, I will not support any game that has ntr/sharing/swinging/futa/cuck or variants of these Tags. Not because I hate the fact that they exist, but because I will never play them and as such, do not want my $upport Euros to go towards those tags.

Avoidable/Optional or 'What If' kind of "outside downloads" or "Stand Alones" (I think this is an English term?) is a great way to remove this type of content from a game and arguments saying that "It's not in the game, so don't worry" are absolutely correct... regarding playing the game...

However, these arguments miss the point, which is 'trust', the developer has shown by the creation of these 'outside downloads' that (like the developers who add the content to a game in a optional/avoidable format) they are willing to devote development time and resources towards those tags/fetishes.

To be clear, this is their choice and they should not be 'forced' or 'coerced' into anything else.

But back to the simple question of 'trust'.

Can I, as a supporter or potential supporter, trust the developer?

Since this question is actually about a developer's "Willingness to create" this type of content, the fact that it is 'outside' of a specific title, is irrelevant. I would argue that the fact that the Dev is willing to create such content, calls into question the ability to trust them with my $upport.
 

LordMerek

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I would argue that the fact that the Dev is willing to create such content, calls into question the ability to trust them with my $upport.
I was thinking this exact same thing. If the developer says one thing then does another based on who will throw him the most money means the developer has no integrity and no morals and more importantly doesn't actually care about the characters in his game/story in the least. It's all about money.

I, more or less, agree with you on all points. With the exception of standalone stories or "What If" scenarios, I explained why, but basically, I tend to create an attachment to characters, stories, whatever (Pretty much I'm too emotionally connected to most things) and as such lose faith in the overall story if tainted in any way. I'll just move on to something with more love put into it.
 

ShinCore

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Game crashes as soon as you click start.

Plus there is no tags listed. You have them in the genre spoiler, but no actual tags listed. And looking at the Patreon, it is a sandbox game. So need to add that.

EDIT: It crashes if you try to use Fullscreen, Borderless Fullscreen, or maximize the window.
no crashes for me
 

ShinCore

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shit son, why ditch renpy
actually, this game is running very smoothly. im actually suprised, i havent come across a GODOT game that was in a VN format. this is actually quite good so far. ive only played 30 mins though.
 

ShinCore

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Because these "What If" scenarios shouldn't exist. If a game/story is dedicated to a specific genre it should stick to that. These alternate scenarios create reasons to no longer care about the characters if things were just a little bit different (and that's a stretch) the characters (including yours) would make completely asinine decisions that don't fit with their characters at all and might as well be other characters.

Ecchi Sensei did this in one of their specials, it makes no sense and you have no control over the situation to fix it because the decisions weren't yours. These scenarios, at least for me, leave a bad taste in my mouth, and even though I know they're a "What If" scenario, I'll still have that garbage lingering in the back of my mind and such things can't be undone.
sorry man, but while i am getting the impression that you are a "paying customer", ultimately nobody but the creator/developer gets to decide the content of the game.

if they want to try out some different things, that's their decision. having an opinion and expressing it is fine, sure. but they are the ones sacrificing time, money, energy and their own sanity to create, develop and publish their content.

they are the ones driving. the rest of us are just along for the ride.
 

Darkhawk2199

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I really like this game so far. If im getting this right the MC is going to become soulmates with the other girls. Does this mean he is either going to become stronger, gain new abilities, or both?
 

DeepChannelStore

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the plot is ok sad because game crashed during first sex scene
but it me laugh little bit lol

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i play it on android and its very slow and it crash :(
i wished it was renpy but its ok atleast the developer is trying new engine

after i finish v.i.r.t.u.e or other h games i plan to play
ill download this game's .exe version on my phone and play it in a computer shop ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 

DraxisSilencer1000

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Please make the saves be sorted based on time and date! Not by the their names. Moreover, there's no music at all? V.I.R.T.U.E.S. has some good soundtrack so please let this one have good music too. Lastly, does this game consume resource bigger or something? It just crashed randomly and it didn't save what Window Size I set up. Also, please make the Tab key be available to have the same functionality as skipping in Renpy. Here's hoping that when we get there, it'll have as much sex content and feel that all the other girls are important, not just Heather.

Like the "Ask her if she wants to spend some time together" and situations should also be needed to the other girls. I don't want to see another situation with Rachel from the previous game where she doesn't have much content. Its a harem game, all of the girls (well I dunno about villains atm) should have equal importance. In fact, if you can manage to have the same sweetness as to the situation between Heather and the MC to some other girl the MC is pairing with or without using the soulmate spell... that's one way to win the harem situation.

Good luck to you devs and for the game! Please, please no more situation similar to the previous game where you just created some NTR and unpleasant content just because someone in Patron ask you to.

Bug report: pressing Enter to continue dialogue in a replay seems to restart the entire event. Clicking with mouse, it proceeds as normal, but as soon as some few presses of Enter have been registered, the event just restarts again from the very beginning. I dunno if its a gallery specific problem, but I'm replaying the scene where Heather's masturbating.
 

DraxisSilencer1000

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I really like this game so far. If im getting this right the MC is going to become soulmates with the other girls. Does this mean he is either going to become stronger, gain new abilities, or both?
We really still don't know anything about this, this soulmate thing is a spell from Heather, not from the MC. I thought, that the MC might be some secret badass based on his experience in the military, but not really. He has some skill and ways to defend himself and that's it. There's nothing like him where there's some secret power or something like in Eternum.
 

AnimeHentaiGamer

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they need to be clear if i can get a what if in this game for ntr. last time i talk to 2 different devs on this game and one of them said no ntr for what if episode and they removed that pledge for patreon. yet it is back on the patreon again.
 
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