Ren'Py Photo Hunt [v0.17.1 Extra] [Moochie]
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- Apr 10, 2020
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I really get a kick out of all this. I stopped supporting the dev when she got the bright idea to bring in a whore house and put the sister in it. Then saying ohh ohh she will be out in the next update and she wasnt..... Instant loss of trust. Now more andmore sharing routes are showing up. I played the very first release of this game and supported it for a long time. now out of the but once again the dev has done something that doesnt fit the character.... putting the sister in a whore house was bad enough now she has to involve the mother with a porn star route. something way out of character from the original story line. Then we got more girls for the whore house... Where is the harem game this started out as?
The story keep getting more convoluted with each update and more paths splitting each time. All this does is slow down content creation and adds more questionable stuff that was never mentioned or planned from the very first release. Now the game has way to many girls in it which hurts the game because the original ones get less screen time since now the dev has to make sure all these new ones get their time in the spotlight. At the rate this dev is going I see a crash coming eventually either the dev will burn out or just plain abandon the game because it will get to the point nothing fits back together and the original idea of it being a harem game is completely lost among all the broken paths and content a harem player doesnt like.
The story keep getting more convoluted with each update and more paths splitting each time. All this does is slow down content creation and adds more questionable stuff that was never mentioned or planned from the very first release. Now the game has way to many girls in it which hurts the game because the original ones get less screen time since now the dev has to make sure all these new ones get their time in the spotlight. At the rate this dev is going I see a crash coming eventually either the dev will burn out or just plain abandon the game because it will get to the point nothing fits back together and the original idea of it being a harem game is completely lost among all the broken paths and content a harem player doesnt like.
- Jan 7, 2018
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Yes, the sister in the Red Maiden was ... questionable. Well, she got out in the end but after that: nothing, no continuation of her story.
I DO think the Red Maiden is a nice addition to the game, espescially the "investigation". but the way the Red Maiden is handled ... I don't know. Sakura and mostly June seem to be nice girls, but for their storyline we need to condemn others. Who's idea was that?
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I definitely agree. And while you are right that we focus on our patrons (as we obviously should), we still at the very least check what you guys say here too sometimes . It's frustrating to see how some people choose to voice their worries, but I have a thick skin at this point. It may take a while to find the constructive criticism in the middle of the bickering, but every update or so I do try to get people to voice what they think about certain decisions.
That being said, it's really awkward having to read exaggerations or misconstrued intent on certain scenes or story developments when we KNOW why we are doing what we are doing. People think there's this huge conspiracy to add NTR to the game. Or that we just plain don't like certain characters because it's been a while since they've had content. I mean, just look a few posts before this one to see yet another discussion about how we "lied" when saying there was going to be a way to take Rachel out of the RM just because there hasn't been a full continuation to her story yet. Meanwhile Rachel is constantly on polls for our patrons to decide who should be the focus of the next update, and yet she hasn't won them so far.
It's going to happen! We will finish her story, as we will every other characters'. Sharing is optional. There won't be any NTR. We won't abandon the game. We care what you think, just try to explain yourself thoroughly and be polite. There's more to learn about the Red Maiden, and what is going on in the peninsula. Be patient and it'll all turn out well.
- Oct 12, 2020
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I completely understand. It's difficult but not impossible to find interesting and well-founded comments about the things you like and the things you don't like. That's why I "defend" those who do it the right way when on the other side you simply read a "don't complain, it's optional". They are partly right, but it seems to me that this just belittles a truly well-founded opinion.
I really appreciate that you keep stopping by, reading a little of what people have to say. Obviously you're not obligated to, but it's a nice touch. And it is even more so to take the time to answer.
So rather than further inflame the discussion (which in my opinion, is healthy to some extent), I'll take this opportunity to ask if you guys plan to add content for those of us who are not related to RM in our game. If I'm not mistaken, a couple of updates ago you guys added content with other RM girls, but I couldn't see that content because I have nothing to do with the club and I feel like I missed out on content. I saw it in a PH gameplay. lol but I don't know for sure. Am I wrong?
Or know if the romance routes will have less sexual content or less "side missions" either with main girls or secondary girls.
- Apr 10, 2020
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I was patient for a year and a half at I don't know 14 or 15 bucks a month what ever the tier was on patreon. I can remember when Moochi had hardly any supporters and yea its awesome she has grown but her original story has been lost. Then one of the main LI's was turned into a whore working as a prostitute in a whore house. There where other things that could have been done with her cause she wanted to earn money and other ways to rebuild the relationship between them. She wanted to be a model he wanted to be a photographer he could have used that to get closer to her by taking photos of her and posting them on his website. Doing the online photos could also have been used to corrupt her by slowly getting her to pose nude and do other things. Yea she would have been considered in the industry but instead of working in a whore house it would have been done at home or some other private place. They would both have made money and a lot more then just him posting photos of flowers in the park. Went to integrate the red maiden. simple use these "new" girls being brought in. they could have been girls he had seen around school and he finds them there and works on getting them out.. Not bringing in current LI's and turning them into whores like Rachel is now. Also Yes Moochi did say after people complained that in the next update after finding Rachel in there you would be able to get her out and that didn't happen... That was over a year and a half ago now and look at that she is still in the damn place... No kid with a part time job could afford to pay a whore house enough to keep a girl only to himself. That's some serious porn logic to think that's even remotely realistic.
On another subject though I don't like the whole sharing thing I will say this for people that don't understand it. Sharing is not NTR is it my fetish no but people need to stop confusing it with NTR because its not. I do believe it does fall under the swinging tag so that might be a tag you should add. As for Evelin and this porn star path.... She never once up to this point acted like someone that would even consider going down that path. After all the time spent working to get ahead and being supported the whole time by the mc and well as being supported by the mc with her college studies this porn star thing doesn't add up and doesn't fit at all. to me that's just a way to bring in other types of players and then you start getting into the grey area when it does come to NTR so that's something you all might want to rethink but after the whole red maiden bullshit with Rachel It just looks like taking the easy way out to add drama and sharing.
On another subject though I don't like the whole sharing thing I will say this for people that don't understand it. Sharing is not NTR is it my fetish no but people need to stop confusing it with NTR because its not. I do believe it does fall under the swinging tag so that might be a tag you should add. As for Evelin and this porn star path.... She never once up to this point acted like someone that would even consider going down that path. After all the time spent working to get ahead and being supported the whole time by the mc and well as being supported by the mc with her college studies this porn star thing doesn't add up and doesn't fit at all. to me that's just a way to bring in other types of players and then you start getting into the grey area when it does come to NTR so that's something you all might want to rethink but after the whole red maiden bullshit with Rachel It just looks like taking the easy way out to add drama and sharing.
- Jan 7, 2018
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When the time comes (photoshoot on the car), decide to do so, it's very clear what choice will cause what route.
I kinda like the idea of corrupting the mom and sister into sexual world. But I understand the argument. I would like to see the ntr route continue but make it an option to turn off. I also would have liked to see mom work there as well.
- Nov 14, 2017
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I think the question the user is asking is more like what can our MC do after school (meaning in the evening) or something. The post is not so clear (possibly due to a language barrier), but I do not think that his MC was thrown out of school, I think that was a game over scenario if that happened?
The worse part of the 2 different routes for Evelyn is the "excuse" as to why they need the money, that's the major problem that I have with all that plot. I still don't like that every character has 2 fully developed routes since that only means more diluted content, but the real problem is still the weak "excuses" as to why in a story point of view.
- May 5, 2018
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It's hard to disagree. This game has completely lost its original atmosphere. That's why I let go, but I'm following the topic if something interesting will finally appear.
- Jun 21, 2020
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Well hopefully giving 2 routes to Evelyn won't make it twice longer to wait for her updates.
- Jul 10, 2017
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Hello there, can anyone tell me what is Evelyn's content in this update? (Pornstar route or the other one)
- Jan 7, 2018
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The Red Maiden is central to the "main story", so all girls will somehow be influenced by what is happening there. Not all girls will have a route where they end up in the Red Maiden. For starters, not all girls will have two routes, either. As for adding content for people not involved with the RM (if you don't bring anyone there, for example, and avoid the place like the plague) that is definitely happening. Even when it comes to the ending of the game, all of this will definitely matter, so more romantic and vanilla stuff is coming, no worries.
This depends a lot on the girl. We try to keep the side-stuff from the romantic routes, but as a harem game it is just natural that there are little moments with multiple girls, for example. Like I said, it heavily depends on the girl. Lina is just A-okay with kissing random girls with you at the bus or whatever, but Jen is not wound like that.
Regardless, more romantic stuff is coming, that's all I can say at this point.
I understand your concern, but at this point we don't talk about it much because, as you've said, the discussion when it comes to Rachel has been going for a long-ass time. Her stupid decision to go to work at the Red Maiden was a mix of a serious lapse of judgement and her natural stubbornness. You can think that's believable or not, but I think we have a good amount of leeway in that area when it comes to porn games, haha.
As for her "still being in the Red Maiden", it may sound like we are making excuses, but this is a game in development. We couldn't outright remove her from it in a half-baked way just to assuage your feelings about the fact that she was there in the first place. Our last update to Rachel's main story started the "get her out" part if you choose the romantic route. She is only "stuck there" because of the limbo between patches. When it comes to the story it was such a short time in which everything happened between her and the MC that part of these complaints really make no sense. In-game you are not expected to spend years going to the RM and "keeping Rachel to yourself", you're supposed to have her just for you for something like a few weeks (at most) while you're training her, and then she would become a full-fledged prostitute. So the romantic storyline involves getting her out of the place before this training concludes.
The sandbox nature of the game means there is all sorts of weirdness because of event triggering. You can make plans with Monica for a date on the weekend and play months in-game without even seeing her again before deciding to go on the damn date. And she is okay with you fucking off for weeks? Of course not! That's because there's just no way to control these things. If you spend 400 days visiting the Red Maiden and repeating Rachel's sex scenes there, it doesn't mean she spent 13 months working exclusively for you. You just "gamed" it. It's like climbing a mountain by walking in a diagonal in Skyrim. It's just what it is.
And when it comes to the Red Maiden in general, we have said so before, but there are circumstances we can't discuss (because they would be spoilers) that will help explain all of this perceived nonsense. Any player that spent a little bit at the RM knows that there is something weird going on with Sakura, or that a lot the business and politics in the peninsula always comes back to that place. If you are investigating with Kira she is already trying to form some sort of theory, and even if you don't play the Red Maiden at all (because you are focusing on the romantic paths) you will find out just what is going on and what you can do about it.