Photographer's Delight - WIP Game Discussion

[Kane Salvatore]

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possibly for Sadie's mom...

maybe instead of her mom being the owner of the strip club/brothel/escort business maybe she's a small time partner so the she doesn't have to money Sadie needs to go to college?

though if her mom is the owner.. that could be the conflict: she has the money but won't let Sadie go to college because her roleplay/cosplay is one of the biggest sellers currently

 

[DarthSeduction]

Avery looks a bit like Jadya, so aged up she could look like Sadie's mom. However, you could just age up and morph Jayda as well.

 

[Kane Salvatore]

considering adding a petite college girl or stripper/brothel worker/escort.. but not sure on that imo..

 

[DarthSeduction]

Are you going life sim or VN?

 

[BeWilder]

considering adding a petite college girl or stripper/brothel worker/escort.. but not sure on that imo..

Its tempting to keep adding character, especially females, but remember that each one adds another layer you have to add content and uniqueness to in order to add value or else they actually begin to detract. At this point we should be more concerned with adding depth to the cast and consistency between them all rather than filling in niches. The current cast can grow into those spaces if you really need to fill them.

By my count we're already looking at 6-9 girls:

- 3 Daughters
- Female Rival
- Runway Girl
- Eldest Daughter's girlfriend
- Possibly 3 mothers

So by now you should really ask yourself do you need more or would you just like more? Going by how non-committal you are in that quoted statement I'd say we can leave her out, but this post should also be something to keep in mind going forward.

 

[Kane Salvatore]

Are you going life sim or VN?

VN/Ren'Py .. but will be experimenting with other game engines

Its tempting to keep adding character, especially females, but remember that each one adds another layer you have to add content and uniqueness too in order to add value or else they actually begin to retract. At this point we should be more concerned with adding depth to the cast and consistency between them all rather than filling in niches. The current cast can grow into those spaces if you really need to fill them.

By my count we're already looking at 6-9 girls:

- 3 Daughters
- Female Rival
- Runway Girl
- Eldest Daughter's girlfriend
- Possibly 3 mothers

So by now you should really ask yourself do you need more or would you just like more? Going by how non-committal you are in that quoted statement I'd say we can leave her out, but this post should also be something to keep in mind going forward.

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Hitomi, Sierra, Chione, Hitomi's Girlfriend, Sadie, Sadie's mom, MC's Girlfriend, MC's Girlfriend's Daughter, MC's Rival
the 5 unlined needing names and backstory

 

[♥♦ Xander Salvatore ♣♠]

other engines being RPGM, Unity, GameMaker Studio, Unreal... not really sure if you should do a life sim or a VN tbh.. i don't like points grinding unless it has real point in the game.. like SLC grinding is annoying, usually just edit my save file

 

[DarthSeduction]

VN/Ren'Py .. but will be experimenting with other game engines


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Hitomi, Sierra, Chione, Hitomi's Girlfriend, Sadie, Sadie's mom, MC's Girlfriend, MC's Girlfriend's Daughter, MC's Rival
the 5 unlined needing names and backstory

Ren'Py is typically a VN engine, but I meant how are you building your game, not what engine are you using. For instance, View of Family is a Ren'Py game, but it's a life sim. And I ask, because as BeWilder said, you're growing quite the large cast. Now, if a few of them are just background characters who have no place in the story, then you'd be fine. However, with each character you add the chances of you successfully building a game with the VN style become smaller. The only game with so many characters I can think of is Sisterly Lust, or Good Girl Gone Bad.

Now, looking at SL you have 3 ladies who don't really need much development, they're barely developed at all. The sisters are more developed and well thought out, because they're the ones who matter. GGGB has gone on long enough that it's been able to develop some of its cast over time, but even still, the girl from the book store and her boyfriend have little to no screentime, Eric's sister is on screen a bit more, but is very much cliche. So as you can see, too many characters in a VN gets dangerous.

In a Life Sim, however, with proper design each girl gets their own individual story arc. You spend time each day with whichever girl you choose to and advance the story with them individually. Typically this allows you to date everyone if you want to, however, that's mostly because the average developer hasn't been very smart with it. You could make it so that advancing your relationship with one character will degrade your relationship with another. Its all a matter of how you want to do things.

i don't like points grinding unless it has real point in the game

Check out Milfy City. It's a life sim without a lot of points grind. You can also check out view of family, which I mentioned before. It has a bit of a grind, but for the most part it is manageable.

 

[♥♦ Xander Salvatore ♣♠]

Will leave it at the 9 atm... Though will be only 5 at the start.. Will work on MC's girlfriend and her daughter, and research on the genre

 

[redknight00]

9 is a good number for endgame, but yeah starting with only 5 is better for focus on the main cast. Plus you can always merge your ideas from the unnamed petite girl to one of the other undeveloped characters.

Regarding the engine and game style, I think you'd be better with Unity or Ren'py, whichever the coder has more familiarity with. Despite my favorite game being rpgm, it's not really suited for VN or Life Sim, because you would spend a lot of time walking around unless you can program a lot of puzzles, minigames and alternatives to combat to keep the player engaged.

As for VN/LS, IMO a life sim is better for games with a larger cast and with more locations, as it allows the player to pursue the characters they are more attracted to. And because the player can choose when to do stuff they will (probably) go back to their secondary interest after completing the content for the main cast.

The main problem with that is the grind, but I'm sure you're aware of the trope. Recently I played Mythic Manor and they did a really good job in this regard because the player can complete the events in any given day except for sundays (special event days), unlike games like BB or SLF that often require the player to grind a week to get to the next events.

 

[♥♦ Xander Salvatore ♣♠]

Petite girl will be either Hitomi's girlfriend or MC's girlfriend's daughter.. Problem now is size.. I love Ada from PL and Jennifer from DmD

 

[DarthSeduction]

Petite girl will be either Hitomi's girlfriend or MC's girlfriend's daughter.. Problem now is size.. I love Ada from PL and Jennifer from DmD

Despite my own appreciation for small girls, I made FunFiction take one of our characters up a cup size to avoid the moral police. Ada is ok sized, but don't go with Jennifer. Too small and Patreon, or even more open minded sites, might shut you down for CP. Granted, I did it with mine because its set in a high school instead of a university, but still, I've seen pages get shut down for things as stupid as a characters implied age being too young.

 

[♥♦ Xander Salvatore ♣♠]

I'd love to get my hands on Sofi and Ada's 'assets' :winkytongue:

 

[Kane Salvatore]

Despite my own appreciation for small girls, I made FunFiction take one of our characters up a cup size to avoid the moral police. Ada is ok sized, but don't go with Jennifer. Too small and Patreon, or even more open minded sites, might shut you down for CP. Granted, I did it with mine because its set in a high school instead of a university, but still, I've seen pages get shut down for things as stupid as a characters implied age being too young.

I'd love to get my hands on Sofi and Ada's 'assets' :winkytongue:

i think Anna from My Cute Cousin or Mia from View of Family would work as well.. we do have the assets list for Rachel and Alina from Sisterly Lust.. might be able to make a better model though with one of the 'Teen' or 'Tween' models

 

[DarthSeduction]

i think Anna from My Cute Cousin or Mia from View of Family would work as well.. we do have the assets list for Rachel and Alina from Sisterly Lust.. might be able to make a better model though with one of the 'Teen' or 'Tween' models

I won't play My Cute Cousin because I disagree with the use of Cute in the title, but Mia... Mia is cute as fuck

 

[Kane Salvatore]

yea.. the cousin isn't 'cute' imo.. sexy maybe but not that into buff women.. love Mia :happyblush

 

[Kane Salvatore]

maybe some mix of

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for the petite girl.. will work on a name, she will be the MC's girlfriend's daughter

 

[Kane Salvatore]

Hmm... Since we are doing a diverse cast (and we are in a Pseudo-Greek town), I think her heritage will partially Greek from her mom.. Not sure what the other half should be or just make her fully Greek

 

[♥♦ Xander Salvatore ♣♠]

k.. Greek heritage
possible names atm:
Daphne
Guinevere
Gwenn
Lorelei
Theia

 

[Kane Salvatore]

got

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(i requested it ) now to get other sex worker related assets, college, photo, housing.. etc..