mbmb

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Request: Tracking information for children. How many each character has had, and with whom, and when. Nothing fancy, just spreadsheet type data would be enough.
gods have smiled upon you today. i've made preg stats a month or so ago. someone already had this idea on patreon(or here?). i don't know exactly. wouldnt be surprised if it was you lol.
maybe i'll also plot the data into a graph so you could watch it rise

i cant even manage 1 game, no way i can do another. unless it's some sort of mod for this one.
craster keep simulator. you need to feed your family, appease the gods by sacrificing some of the kids, kidnap new wives and try to keep neighboring factions in check so they dont burn you down.

So will the new body types be in this update? it'd be really cool to know what the update has in it assuming it is close. :)
only in dev. problem is that people want more and more body types, but i cannot manage to draw so many outfits to fit them all.
you can guess how normal clothes look on fat bodies.
need to find some other solution before putting them in stable version. probably dynamicly resizing and repositoining. thats a lot of hardcoding tho. eventually.
 

guest1492

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New player here.

Are there any hotkeys anywhere?
Can I reject contract work that comes in through my phone?
How do I use skill points on the girls?
Do the girls' likes ever change?
Do your staff's attributes and traits matter, or just their levels?
Is there any point in upgrading the office or bedroom?
 
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mecha_froggy

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gods have smiled upon you today. i've made preg stats a month or so ago. someone already had this idea on patreon(or here?). i don't know exactly. wouldnt be surprised if it was you lol.
maybe i'll also plot the data into a graph so you could watch it rise
Honestly I just wanted it for financial reasons - to see just how much child support was costing the company per month.


only in dev. problem is that people want more and more body types, but i cannot manage to draw so many outfits to fit them all.
you can guess how normal clothes look on fat bodies.
need to find some other solution before putting them in stable version. probably dynamicly resizing and repositoining. thats a lot of hardcoding tho. eventually.
Resizing really isn't that big a deal - I do it in photoshop all the time. The trick is to find the right anchor points on bodies to link to matching hooks in the clothes. Since this is 2D it shouldn't be too hard - edges of breasts, stomach, butt, and two points each for limbs.

Can I reject contract work that comes in through my phone?
How do I use skill points on the girls?
Do the girls' likes ever change?
Do your staff's attributes and traits matter, or just their levels?
Is there any point in upgrading the office or bedroom?
1) No, but feel free to ignore them until they expire.

2) It isn't a RPG (or is it?), so skill points aren't something you assign. But you can train them, within the limits of their Potential stat, but that can be both expensive & time consuming. At least models don't collect pay while out of work, though.

3) No, and that's something that I'd like to see change. Still there MBMB? I suggest that a girl's likes should change over time depending on the sex skill of her partners. That is to say, if she has a 80% in Girl-Boy but her last male sex partner only had a 10 in sex skill then that like should drop some. Conversely, if that same girl only had 25% in Girl-Girl and her last female sex partner had a divine 70 in sex skill then that like should go up.

4) Only their Happiness stat matters, and only insofar as it keeps them from quitting.

5) Office: In theory expanding it allows you to hire more staff, but I've never tested that theory because I never really hire more than a dozen people, anyway. Also affects quality rating of "easy shoots" done in the office.
Bedroom: Affects the quality rating of "easy shoots" that you do in that bedroom.

"Easy shoots" are done with the little upper right camera button by yourself and don't require any extra studios or crew. They cap at quality 200 while studios can go up to 400 with max crew skills. The difference in income, however, is so minor that I personally have never found any real need for an actual porn studio. I'll build a photo studio and staff it but that's it.
 
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2) It isn't a RPG (or is it?), so skill points aren't something you assign. But you can train them, within the limits of their Potential stat, but that can be both expensive & time consuming. At least models don't collect pay while out of work, though.
When I skimmed the thread, I though I saw someone mentioning that you can get skill points when training someone to their limits. Also, supposedly the special npcs come with skill points when you recruit them?

https://f95zone.to/threads/porn-empire-v0-76d-pedev.2857/post-1499400

I thought that skill points are represented by "SP" on the far right when you check the girls on your data screen (without the girl's picture).
 

JRD

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When I skimmed the thread, I though I saw someone mentioning that you can get skill points when training someone to their limits. Also, supposedly the special npcs come with skill points when you recruit them?

https://f95zone.to/threads/porn-empire-v0-76d-pedev.2857/post-1499400

I thought that skill points are represented by "SP" on the far right when you check the girls on your data screen (without the girl's picture).
The unique NPC's all have individual traits that, if you recruit them for specific jobs, will give specific traits that probably can't be otherwise obtained. (Ex. Lena van Houten gives all contract girls the Sexual trait while Maya Chase gives the MC the Secretary trait)

The skill point system was from older builds, it's not an option as of v076d.
 
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Special NPC traits can only be accessed if you hire them as staff, not as pornstars.

The Cougar - location: bar. Grants "cream machine" trait to MC that allows you spunk as many times as your want in a shoot (this does not affect quality or anything). The real perk she gives is leveling up your model's sex skill with every performance at no extra charge.

The Fitness Instructor - location: gym. Raises model's fitness stat as they work.

The Maid - location: hotel room. Grants free make-up changes (<- personally, this seems weak so using her as a pornstar is no big loss to the MC - hopefully this will change to a beauty stat boost like the other girls do.)

The Nerd - location: library. Her perk drops the pay of other PAs by 5%. Again, this seems kind of weak (an intelligence boost like the others would make more sense)

The Trophy Wife - location: hotel lobby, only on Sat & Sun. Unlocks the jewelry store at the mall, which once you visit it will unlock jewelry options for your models. In future builds it has been hinted that she will unlock other locations, too.

The Nurse - location: hospital, 12mid-6am. Gives you free STD pills and cuts all rehab times in half. This is very valuable, so you should always take the option to hire her as a medical advisor.

The Punk - location: beach. 1st encounter is random but you need a certain number of fans for later encounters. Acts as a boosted marketing PA, which means extra $$$. She also unlocks the tattoo parlor at the mall. Visit it once and you now have tattoo options.

The Cops - location: 1st encounter at your office, 2nd in the park, 3rd in the alleyway when you try buy drugs. Yes, you can recruit them! They both have security related perks and thus make good security guards. Between the two of them you probably won't need any more security at all, in fact.

I must repeat this: You do not get any of their special bonuses if you hire them as regular models/porn stars. They must be hired as personal assistants/specialists to get their unique benefits.
 

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Maybe its just me, but I don't see half of the NPCs again, after the first intro. The beach, the hotel lobby and the gym girls I have spent two full weeks clicking through without getting the NPCs. Tried all kinds of saves and setups. On my main save I didn't even cheat. Is it a bug?
 

JRD

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Maybe its just me, but I don't see half of the NPCs again, after the first intro. The beach, the hotel lobby and the gym girls I have spent two full weeks clicking through without getting the NPCs. Tried all kinds of saves and setups. On my main save I didn't even cheat. Is it a bug?
It depends on the character. None of them appear until 8 days into the game.

Jenny (trainer), Maya (student/camgirl), and Lena (ex-pornstar/escort) usually are around randomly at the Gym, Library and the Bar when open and don't seem to have requirements.

Kimberly Payton (nurse) I've only seen from midnight till about 8am in the Hospital, again no requirements to recruit after a few events.

Alice Mclean (aspiring model) is on the beach, but her events are based on how many fans you have.

Elizabeth Dillon and Debby Carter (cops) are also based on fans (1. they show up at the studio, next is in the park, then on the street - no spoilers, but there are conditional triggers).

Carmen Moya (maid) is only in the hotel room, I don't usually rent the room until a bit further along in the game.

I don't recall the Trophy Wife's name, as you can't recruit her, but her events start off in the hotel lobby and are probably tied to a trigger (most likely fans).
 

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Maybe its just me, but I don't see half of the NPCs again, after the first intro. The beach, the hotel lobby and the gym girls I have spent two full weeks clicking through without getting the NPCs. Tried all kinds of saves and setups. On my main save I didn't even cheat. Is it a bug?
Info from one of mbmb's older posts:
nurse: 23:00 - 7:00
hotel maid : 8:00 - 13:00
bar milf: 17:00 - 23:00
beach girl: all the time, but you need a lot of fans
library girl: 12:00 - 16:00
gym girl: 08:00 - 13:00
hotel milf: weekends, then she moves to the jewelry store where oyu can find her on workdays
cops: twice at home, then at the park and lastly on the street.

The girls from the gym, hotel room, library, and bar all require certain stat levels to progress with them. The relevant stats are respectively fitness, charisma, intellect, and sex skills. I believe that completing the "route" requires a minimum of 60 in the stat.

Some of the girls also give traits to your contract models if you hired them in their special jobs, but only for the ones contracted after they get hired in their jobs. The gym girl gives the athletic trait, the bar girl gives the sexual trait, and the library girl gives the prodigy trait.
 
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SO if I remember it right, dev updates then in a week or two the public one drops right? I'm excited lol this is my fav management game
 

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gods have smiled upon you today. i've made preg stats a month or so ago. someone already had this idea on patreon(or here?). i don't know exactly. wouldnt be surprised if it was you lol.
I believe I had that idea, actually. I remember having a conversation with you about finding out how many kids you've given birth to or fathered.
 

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@mbmb

I haven't read the whole thread so these may have been mentioned already, but here's a list of some bugs/exploits:
  • saving in hotel room freezes the game
  • girls waiting for casting can be used as models in contract work
  • training period is calculated by end date and not set to some total days in training (so training for 7 days 10 times in a row only makes you unavailable for 7 days)
  • the results of training show up immediately
  • if someone is scheduled for a shoot, they always show up even if they are unavailable (in rehab or training)
  • when hiring people you meet for staff, salaries are deducted at the end/beginning of the month but when hiring people from the job center, salaries are deducted immediately
  • when you recruit special npcs, traits are only added to girls you contract afterwards and not girls that were already contracted
If possible, can you add an option to the cheat menu to raise/lower someone's age by 1 year at a time?
 

mbmb

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Would POV scenes be possible in this game? Probably too crazy to implement but I can dream!
everything is possible. but yeah, too much drawing.

I believe I had that idea, actually. I remember having a conversation with you about finding out how many kids you've given birth to or fathered.
well, you can finally see this now

@mbmb

I haven't read the whole thread so these may have been mentioned already, but here's a list of some bugs/exploits:
  • saving in hotel room freezes the game
  • girls waiting for casting can be used as models in contract work
  • training period is calculated by end date and not set to some total days in training (so training for 7 days 10 times in a row only makes you unavailable for 7 days)
  • the results of training show up immediately
  • if someone is scheduled for a shoot, they always show up even if they are unavailable (in rehab or training)
  • when hiring people you meet for staff, salaries are deducted at the end/beginning of the month but when hiring people from the job center, salaries are deducted immediately
  • when you recruit special npcs, traits are only added to girls you contract afterwards and not girls that were already contracted
If possible, can you add an option to the cheat menu to raise/lower someone's age by 1 year at a time?
some of them i know. thanks for others.
i'll add age change.
 

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some of them i know. thanks for others.
i'll add age change.
Thanks. Here are a few other bugs/exploits:
  • If you attempt to recruit a girl while having less than the minimum amount of cash to offer her, you get stuck because there are no choices to choose.
  • If you enter a location while having 50+ energy, if you successfully recruit a girl after having less than 50 energy (so you trained or worked before talking to her) then you get stuck because there are no choices to choose.
  • If a girl is unavailable (not for training or rehab), you can make her available again by sending her to train for 0 days (move slider to right and then back to left).
  • The traits added to contract girls by special NPCs don't actually have any effect on their stats.
  • Girls turning 24 don't lose the teen trait; girls turning 38 don't gain the milf trait.
Looking forward to the next release. :)
 
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esoom

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Game is dead, dev should feel bad. :)

Joke by the way, I know how annoying fixing things in code can be. I started making my own simple Twine based game and thought how hard can it be it's only a text based game with a few images thrown in... then I decided I wanted to make dynamic content with random NPC generation and a tile based fight system and AI with collision avoidance and SVG graphics...

Probably shouldn't have done it in Twine.
 

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Rather than dead, I feel like the main issue with this game is that it doesn't update frequently enough to justify the waiting time between patrons and non-patrons. If you're going to have a system where patrons get the newest version earlier, then having the game take months between updates isn't really going to incentivize people to pledge. The last dev update before this one was on June 30th. Even if I was paying 10$ to get it, that's 20$ for 2 months where I received basically nothing. The only things uploaded between this update and the last were art updates, definitely not worth 10$ a month. It's just not an attractive model.
 
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Zaben

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Patience. It would not be good for supporters and non-supporters (and pirates alike :LOL:) to have timely updates with minimal new content. Imagine 5 minutes of new content every month. 5 minutes to watch and wait 1 month again. It's not better (I think)
If you are supportive or you will find out what support versions are available on the patreon and you can choose the appropriate option for the developer to get the money. But keep in mind that these are unique hand made products. Endurance. Ps: sorry for my bad english

Rather than dead, I feel like the main issue with this game is that it doesn't update frequently enough to justify the waiting time between patrons and non-patrons. If you're going to have a system where patrons get the newest version earlier, then having the game take months between updates isn't really going to incentivize people to pledge. The last dev update before this one was on June 30th. Even if I was paying 10$ to get it, that's 20$ for 2 months where I received basically nothing. The only things uploaded between this update and the last were art updates, definitely not worth 10$ a month. It's just not an attractive model.
 

PoyntFury

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Patience. It would not be good for supporters and non-supporters (and pirates alike :LOL:) to have timely updates with minimal new content. Imagine 5 minutes of new content every month. 5 minutes to watch and wait 1 month again. It's not better (I think)
If you are supportive or you will find out what support versions are available on the patreon and you can choose the appropriate option for the developer to get the money. But keep in mind that these are unique hand made products. Endurance. Ps: sorry for my bad english
I was a 10$ patron for months. I would understand if there was a new update every month, but that hasn't been the case.
 

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i try to at least release a dev version every month but all this shit with updating the engine stalled everything. i really thought it was going to be faster. my fuck up but nothing i can do now.

i'm back on track so releases will be more regular. hopefully get some goodwill back.
 
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