DudeBro79

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The only different between male and futa is that male have testicles on portrait
From what I've seen, there pretty much aren't ANY full-on males (barring the actual classification where "male" has a penis and no vagina) in the roster of common units you can get, like the most male-looking you can have looks like a futa with a flat chest. Whether or not you take that as a femboy is up to you.
 

4notherRandomGuy

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V0.31.0.0 drop a 12ish hours ago
The discord (changelog & if prefer to download from there)

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Download: (only unlockables.sav is compatible)
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will edit linux when it come out.
 

Axvz

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>lowered party size to make team composition easier to change (experimental change)
Did I understand this correctly? Players now have four party slots because it's easier to click four times instead of five? What?
Also, how am I supposed to get species synergy without evo, superhybrid or AN-9 (forgot her name, might be wrong) now? Oh, I still can put 1 pure species and 3 hybrids, I guess, but wtf was this change for anyway? Upgradeable party size some negative effects for exceeding certain thresholds to balance it out would've been nice actually, but this?
 

Noctane

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Dec 9, 2021
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Yeah i don't understand the thinking behind it.
Seems like it'll unbalance things massively.
The first thing that comes to mind is the god end, since you already lose two slot to AN13 and terra, leaving you 3 optimised girls, so now only 2 ? Fuck, still possible but it'll be painful for newbies that don't minmax.

That typed, when he made changes in the past it always ended up better, so my sentiment is "let him cook".
 

franz941

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Nov 22, 2017
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Do old saves don't work with new version? or i messed up something?
Also the remove of one a party member seem to be a damn mess like seriously some fights need to be entirely remade for this change. premise i suck at this game ,so even with team of 6 all lv 20 and legendary gear on them some boss fight fucked me up.
Now i don't know if i can even get some of the endings LOL.
 
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>lowered party size to make team composition easier to change (experimental change)
Did I understand this correctly? Players now have four party slots because it's easier to click four times instead of five? What?
Also, how am I supposed to get species synergy without evo, superhybrid or AN-9 (forgot her name, might be wrong) now? Oh, I still can put 1 pure species and 3 hybrids, I guess, but wtf was this change for anyway? Upgradeable party size some negative effects for exceeding certain thresholds to balance it out would've been nice actually, but this?
Partly because they think the game is too overwhelming and that people default to solo play (that's a terrible idea, and I think the mistake is assuming new players do this. I don't genuinely think you'll have a good time with that style UNLESS you know what you're doing) even starting out. I think they're missing the point, likewise with the changes to dating and now it being the only way for the MC to breed. These feel like overly heavy-handed approaches to either drive up the value of a system or answer a problem. In this case, I think everyone agrees the game basically doesn't really have a tutorial. It's got that "quick tutorial" thing, and it's got Tutoriel but the real problem is that the game doesn't break down the systems well enough and doesn't actually list or show examples of this. It made me realize a lot of the tutorials that insta-click for me usually have you immediately doing stuff and making it clear what you're doing.

Maybe I'd start you out in combat to explore that system, and seduction, have you end combat to explore a super small portalworld to explore resource-gathering and base building that I never do anyways and I think a lot of people don't, even playing Creation then bring you back to show you how the farm, brothel, and town/home work in an example game created to do just that.

What's fun is figuring out your own brand of BS to bring to the table, but that requires knowing what you're doing. I just worry this'll be the first version of the game I downgrade.

Do old saves don't work with new version? or i messed up something?
Never have, only unlockables.sav is transferable. You might as well consider every upgrade new runs only and finish your current run if you want to move on. As for the smaller party, they said they also correspondingly removed some enemies from spawn count, but I don't think that really matters. In the long run, losing a slot is just loss of one additional character and role. I don't think "encourage more decisive picks during prep" works here because it's not like combat got less lethal, especially early on.
 
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dinopara

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V 0.31.0.0 Changelog
still no magical transfer for giant characters to allow entry in smaller sized portals? jesus christ.
also the reduce in 1 partysize will break a lot of guides for about a day or so, can't believe people will have to loadout themselves for portals until they get the godbreeds up and running in a tighter way. i guess you get what you ask for, minmaxxers.
 

Axvz

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In this case, I think everyone agrees the game basically doesn't really have a tutorial. It's got that "quick tutorial" thing, and it's got Tutoriel but the real problem is that the game doesn't break down the systems well enough and doesn't actually list or show examples of this. It made me realize a lot of the tutorials that insta-click for me usually have you immediately doing stuff and making it clear what you're doing.
Never actually had troubles with this one, honestly, even as a new player. I mean, yeah, some systems, namely dating, would be easier with some thorough explanation (and another rebalance or few I guess) but most of this things are relatively easy to get into, since the game has tooltips for almost anything. Though I agree, that this could've been done a bit better. Also started playing this before "quick tutorial" and oriel even existed, so I actually have no idea if they're even a bit helpful.


I personally would appreciate more ingame content before dev decides to say "game is complete, no new versions". Namely, I'd like some lust/battlefuck(?) based combat. Right now succubi kinda suck, being the-easiest-to-be-seduced and requiring to have at least 5 genetic species in party to not be mauled by random animal. Also when I'm talking about combat, I mean capability to hurt and kill enemies, not just recruiting them and abandoning right after. Yes, I'm aware about "Vampiric" and "Draining" traits but that's really not enough for me in actual porn game. Also, using those means I have to adapt my entire team at least twice and "Draining" is Flora exclusive, so I have to recruit her first. Can't remember if "Vampiric" is unique to Moira or not..
Wouldn't mind "Lust" element or something similar. Things like this are kinda expected by default, are they not?

Also, while I'm at it, doesn't anyone think that brothels' existence in this setting is kinda.. strange? I mean, almost everyone fucks almost anyone and anything everywhere for free, how can it actually be profitable?
 

ThisIsMe88

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The game has dozens of races, hundreds if not thousands of different combinations of NPCs we can fuse, recruit, capture or summon and we get less slots to use them in a team ?

I'm by no means an expert at the game, but I fail to see how this would make it any less confusing or more appealing to the average uneducated player like me.
 
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Really dumb change. We've entered the balanced by a Discord circlejerk phase of amateur game design.
I don't want to discredit Syvaron, I absolutely believe he just messes around with systems to see what sticks.

But his Discord HAS devolved into a circlejerk. Not him, just the people who actually talk there. It just sucks because they're the ones who are gonna shit on your opinion for posting here at all, and reject any criticism, regardless of presentation.


Also, while I'm at it, doesn't anyone think that brothels' existence in this setting is kinda.. strange? I mean, almost everyone fucks almost anyone and anything everywhere for free, how can it actually be profitable?
Lore-wise, monstergirls have no qualms beating you up to have sex with you or simply get you out of their territory. Combine that with portal-world raiding being dangerous in general (sometimes a recruit event is you rescuing someone from a situation they got into) and humans being, in setting, super underpowered, and at least the Brothel lets you play with the monster girls in a safe environment. Unless that isn't what you want.

The real "discrepancy" is how rare humans use it. You often catch other monster girls there. Even then, a lot of humans are basically peasants, and monster girls are the ones most readily available to survive and thrive in portal worlds, so makes sense they make dosh they can spend on some non-combat-based fun.
 
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CrystalBall

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his Discord HAS devolved into a circlejerk
They all do, it's inevitable, as people form a club around playing and talking about a specific game and shift the design philosophy through their feedback. It's also a problem of tweaking a game forever instead of moving on, like eternally remixing a song until it sucks.
 

4notherRandomGuy

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Personally, while I don't like 1 less as the new standard, I can see this being a new game perk point thing. Game is suppose to be rogue-lite per run, cutting a slot means the MC's species & having knowledge of Unique/Special Hybrid really count to get that max species perks. It would mean less flexibility, but the runs would be more unique. Newbie would definitely suffer tho.

Not too sure on the mount thing
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Given that this is not final and there was an (experimental) next to it in the changelog, it could very well just some thing to get more people to test & provide feedback, then change later. If this was hidden in new game perks, how many people do you guys think would check?
 

Xypster

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>lowered party size to make team composition easier to change (experimental change)
Did I understand this correctly? Players now have four party slots because it's easier to click four times instead of five? What?
Also, how am I supposed to get species synergy without evo, superhybrid or AN-9 (forgot her name, might be wrong) now? Oh, I still can put 1 pure species and 3 hybrids, I guess, but wtf was this change for anyway? Upgradeable party size some negative effects for exceeding certain thresholds to balance it out would've been nice actually, but this?
new bugfix dropped, along with fixes it also makes it so Synergist can edit both genes on the spirit, so you can use any spirit instead of base/base species. Discord link download is in the #downloads_changelogs channel
 

dhannywest

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Apr 11, 2022
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I'm mostly overwhelmed at the breeding side of things. Keeping a stable of a dozen people at home fishing because I just need them to exist with a trait I want until some spirits I'm grinding can reform up to level 20 and can fuse with them. Losing track of which characters I kept around for their 5 magic genes early or specific subspecies whose skill points of their offspring I want. Keeping track of eggs in the hatchery and if the ones currently on offer can be fused together to not lose traits/genetics I want from their parents. If I have to wait another day for another clutch of eggs to not lose wanted traits between generations.

When it comes to combat parties I tend to have early game whatever I got to make my useless starters not die while leveling to 5 and some spirits starting the experience grind, midgame the arena centaur as a bulwark with maybe a tracker unique or two and more spirits, and late game characters made from the fused spirits(you best believe still grinding out another spirit even this late). The overwhelming aspects are less the execution of the party and more building characters and balancing how many slots are taken up by useless lowest tier spirits with a max level of like 18. Uniques slotted in mostly for keeping the spirits alive without needing any character investment budget taken up themselves. Seduction characters are more of a hybrid inclusion, a character with some physical or magical options with a half-decent lust attack to use opportunistically. Never had much luck with a lust focused character for disrupting enemies.

I don't tend to build for challenge ranks or superbosses, where I do feel a little overwhelmed at what to build for beyond generic 'as much magic as possible and any damaging spell that isn't a huge pain to use'. Though this is less about composition and more thinking about how you breed 5 specific breeds with an added angle of the right inherited skills.

I dunno, will have to play around with it to see.
 
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dinopara

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We've entered the balanced by a Discord circlejerk phase of amateur game design.
the game was being balanced by a discord circlejerk since the druid changes way back in 0.20's, took you this long to figure that one out?

Personally, while I don't like 1 less as the new standard, I can see this being a new game perk point thing. Game is suppose to be rogue-lite per run, cutting a slot means the MC's species & having knowledge of Unique/Special Hybrid really count to get that max species perks. It would mean less flexibility, but the runs would be more unique. Newbie would definitely suffer tho.

Given that this is not final and there was an (experimental) next to it in the changelog, it could very well just some thing to get more people to test & provide feedback, then change later. If this was hidden in new game perks, how many people do you guys think would check?
i hope people can find out the modding script to make it customizable, imagine 8 partysize ingame via a mod... also people would pick it up if it increased the point mult bt 0.5x at least and definitely if 1x or more.
 
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