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Fayn Arawn

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a situation where the girls kinda fucking love it but also feel exploited or trapped. Instead of “I love my dad he’s not creepy at all”
and its fine cause its a porn game after all.
Part of the appeal of this game (for me at least) is that the characters are more developed and have more interesting personalities than in a lot of games. It makes them endearing and easy to get attached to, which can be hard to reconcile when they can end up as eager sex slaves to a disgusting villain. If the women can be controlled through sex, and are willing to accept any partner who can fuck their brains out, then that would diminish their value as love interest characters.

If I'm understanding you correctly, you're disappointed/frustrated that the game doesn't portray the women falling prey to Hunter (pun intended) in a more believable way, and I get that. Honestly this is why I can't wait to find out more about how Nora and Keira were seduced, and more importantly how they feel about it now.

I think we need to remember several things: Hunter's financial leverage; his employment of mind-altering drugs; and at the end of the day, this is a porn game, and a comedic one at that, which requires some willing suspension of disbelief.
 

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If I'm understanding you correctly, you're disappointed/frustrated that the game doesn't portray the women falling prey to Hunter (pun intended) in a more believable way, and I get that.
But anyone expecting that has completely missed the style in which Power Vacuum's NTR operates. The NTR has never been a character study. It's never been about fraught, conflicted emotions. It's ALL about the nightmarish spectacle. If you're wondering where the soap opera inner monologues are while an old man hypno-rapes his gender bent former grandson, you're playing the wrong game.
 

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If you're wondering where the soap opera inner monologues are while an old man hypno-rapes his gender bent former grandson, you're playing the wrong game.
The kind of sentence we will never hear (unfortunately) during a State of Play or Xbox Showcase... but maybe there's a hope for a Blizzcon, they said worse already.
 
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I don't know why they're arguing, but for me it's one of the best games I've ever played. Especially the NTR scenes.
 

Fayn Arawn

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But anyone expecting that has completely missed the style in which Power Vacuum's NTR operates. The NTR has never been a character study. It's never been about fraught, conflicted emotions. It's ALL about the nightmarish spectacle. If you're wondering where the soap opera inner monologues are while an old man hypno-rapes his gender bent former grandson, you're playing the wrong game.
I read you. In case I was unclear, I'm only trying to say I can empathize, not that I share the opinion.

I like a little story in my porn, not the other way around! :p
 
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If I'm understanding you correctly, you're disappointed/frustrated that the game doesn't portray the women falling prey to Hunter (pun intended) in a more believable way, and I get that. Honestly this is why I can't wait to find out more about how Nora and Keira were seduced, and more importantly how they feel about it now.
Thats the exact reason for me stating that "its not as deep as one would assume" and honestly it never would be because it doesnt matter how shallow it gets or contradictive, if it denies the spectacle, its out.
Even though it makes so little sense for a character to get all the way to a point that its blatantly unbelievable it doesnt matter as long as it highlights the spectacle, its inconsistent at best and jarring at worst.

But anyone expecting that has completely missed the style in which Power Vacuum's NTR operates. The NTR has never been a character study. It's never been about fraught, conflicted emotions. It's ALL about the nightmarish spectacle. If you're wondering where the soap opera inner monologues are while an old man hypno-rapes his gender bent former grandson, you're playing the wrong game.
Thanks for proving my point.
Keep cooking.
 
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Thats the exact reason for me stating that "its not as deep as one would assume" and honestly it never would be because it doesnt matter how shallow it gets or contradictive, if it denies the spectacle, its out.
Even though it makes so little sense for a character to get all the way to a point that its blatantly unbelievable it doesnt matter as long as it highlights the spectacle, its inconsistent at best and jarring at worst.



Thanks for proving my point.
Keep cooking.
You know something being a spectacle doesn't mean it doesn't have depth, right? I think that was your point, it's hard to tell with you.

But, ehh, for the last two years I think I've disagreed with everything you've ever said in this thread. I used to correct you but I've grown tired of it. Your reading comprehension is poor and you postulate wildly about NTR just to be incendiary. I'm tired of reading your attempts at being provocative. I mean, you actually think your chide about Hunter using IQ subtracting drugs makes sense when Hunter uses significantly worse reality warping drugs? You're exhausting and I'm just gonna put you on ignore.
 

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Yeah isn’t that just wishful thinking at this point, take for example Tiff, it makes 0 sense for her to be in the bad end in Ch 11 primarily because she kinda knows about Hunters schemes and the arc with her mother got resolved by MC, she doesn’t necessarily have to play the maid by now, so what’s left? Was she crawling willingly to Hunters “trap” also in What if 7 was the ultimate opportunity to explore this kind of dynamic, a situation where the girls kinda fucking love it but also feel exploited or trapped. Instead of “I love my dad he’s not creepy at all”



Its not the case though, none of the bad ends ever tackled this topic, the girls are never pushed to a point where they're "forced" to do the things that they do its always 100% agreed upon once the UB is inside, actually the only bad end that makes sense to me is the one with Lucia in Ch 8 because it exactly fits her character's personality and also consistent with the events introduced in the story, im just saying that the whole "competition aspect" of this VN is not as deep as you think, and its fine cause its a porn game after all.

In like all the bad ending the girls are drugged out of their minds before they do anything with hunter in the first place. Then he swoops in before they come to their senses and by then it's already to late. It's not love it's brainwashing
 

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You know something being a spectacle doesn't mean it doesn't have depth, right? I think that was your point, it's hard to tell with you.

But, ehh, for the last two years I think I've disagreed with everything you've ever said in this thread. I used to correct you but I've grown tired of it. Your reading comprehension is poor and you postulate wildly about NTR just to be incendiary. I'm tired of reading your attempts at being provocative. I mean, you actually think your chide about Hunter using IQ subtracting drugs makes sense when Hunter uses significantly worse reality warping drugs? You're exhausting and I'm just gonna put you on ignore.
own that spammer merchant
 
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You know something being a spectacle doesn't mean it doesn't have depth, right? I think that was your point, it's hard to tell with you.

But, ehh, for the last two years I think I've disagreed with everything you've ever said in this thread. I used to correct you but I've grown tired of it. Your reading comprehension is poor and you postulate wildly about NTR just to be incendiary. I'm tired of reading your attempts at being provocative. I mean, you actually think your chide about Hunter using IQ subtracting drugs makes sense when Hunter uses significantly worse reality warping drugs? You're exhausting and I'm just gonna put you on ignore.
I respect the dedication. Two whole years debating online about a porn game. This is next level passion
 

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Yeah honestly, I can understand some, like, criticism of the media you consume (and consume for free in this case), but at a certain point the internet is vast enough for you to go "OK, maybe this isn't for me" and leave if you don't find a piece of work fulfilling or stimulating enough.

Otherwise, of course, people could just be writing fanfiction about this game if they feel so dissatisfied with the content, or make their own fan games. That's what people usually do do when they feel dissatisfied with a piece of media direction, just take a look at Spider-Man comics right now with all their own NTR scandal happening as we speak.
 
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