Snugglepuff

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What's beside femdom and ntr that he is referring?
Uh...
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Take your pick.

I actually asked why MOST grown ups would like these things.
No you didn't. You asked why he was assuming NTR and Femdom were things most grownups like.
That's a completely different question. Your question was asking if Fayn assumed that most adults liked NTR and Femdom...

he straight up said if you are not a grown up you can't understand the fetishes depicted in this story.
No, he didn't.
Reread what was written:
I speculate that it skews a little older because the jokes and references would go over many younger players' heads,
This is saying that younger than a certain age group most likely wouldn't understand the humour and references.

I am one and are disliking it more as I am going forward in the story and cannot understand why mc has to be pussy to push forward through this situation?
He's not being a pussy though. He's being a more well adjusted example of the typical incest porn male MC.

But I have already said why it would have been necessary for dev to put that type of mc and I am not repeating that.
So you've already said why you think the MC is the way he is, but again raise that you have an issue with it but go out of your way to say that you've already commented on that and refuse to repeat it... That's an entirely redundant thing to have said.


Please stop being so hyperbolic, and try harder to understand what you read.
Careful now, the victim card will probably come out soon... :LOL:
 

AlphaBit

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I'm saying that most younger players would be turned off by these things, but that's not the same as saying most older players would enjoy them. However, with age comes experience, and over time vanilla depictions of sex can become boring and routine, so many (not "most") older players are likely to be more open-minded (or at least tolerant) toward these fetishes.
That seems understandable except open mindedness doesn't imply liking or disliking particular fetishes. Mostly fetish preference never change because at least in these adult games it's not all about sex scenes.
I don't think letting a woman take charge during sex means a man is a beta. If anything, being afraid of an assertive woman is beta behavior. And our MC is actually far from a beta, which you'd know if you stick with the game
I have left that scene behind and aren't even discussing mcs behavior with respect to any other scenes in the story. I am talking about the overall character of the mc maybe I shouldn't use the word beta but being a little dumb in every conversation he is having and also someone who likes femdom not so much but there are clear hints and you know thats not necessary for the situation in the story.
 

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the fetishes/taboos would be too much for innocent young minds.
I actually said young players wouldn't understand the jokes, that's what "going over" someones head means. About the fetishes, I only said they would be "too much" for younger players, which is to say intolerable, not incomprehensible.

Please stop being so hyperbolic, and try harder to understand what you read.
By not understanding I meant not liking so that makes my comment totally relevant to yours and actually thanks for clarifying that you really said that younger minds wouldn't like it and so vice versa but that's not true.
 

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Mostly fetish preference never change because at least in these adult games it's not all about sex scenes.
I'm not sure if that's true. Speaking only for myself (and potentially oversharing!), but I find that my sexual tastes have evolved quite a bit since my adolescence.

I am talking about the overall character of the mc maybe I shouldn't use the word beta but being a little dumb in every conversation he is having and also someone who likes femdom not so much but there are clear hints and you know thats not necessary for the situation in the story.
I don't understand what you mean by "dumb"? I think the MC starts out as inexperienced, but he grows (mentally and physically) over the course of the game. I think it's more interesting to see a character become a Chad than to automatically start as one. It's called storytelling.
 
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Take your pick.
Non vanilla besides femdom and ntr. Everything else is mostly vanilla.
No you didn't. You asked why he was assuming NTR and Femdom were things most grownups like.
That's a completely different question. Your question was asking if Fayn assumed that most adults liked NTR and Femdom...
I clearly meant femdom and ntr by these things.
This is saying that younger than a certain age group most likely wouldn't understand the humour and references
I agree with him on this, I didn't said anything about this.
He's not being a pussy though. He's being a more well adjusted example of the typical incest porn male MC.
Yeah well adjustted for ntr. I have played many realistic, non realistic incest games and I know whats needed for that.
So you've already said why you think the MC is the way he is, but again raise that you have an issue with it but go out of your way to say that you've already commented on that and refuse to repeat it... That's an entirely redundant thing to have said
I have said situation wise mc is not needed to be like this thats my issue. maybe it wasn't redundant and you have to read my previous comment again.
 

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I'm not sure if that's true. Speaking only for myself (and potentially oversharing!), but I find that my sexual tastes have evolved quite a bit since my adolescence.
That's why I said mostly.
I don't understand what you mean by "dumb"? I think the MC starts out as inexperienced, but he grows (mentally and physically) over the course of the game. I think it's more interesting to see a character become a Chad than to automatically start as one. It's called storytelling.
Good I am in chapter 3 currently let's see what happens next.
 
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idk if i am blind but there was an IF about ophelia goes in a date with some dude with brown skin and NTRS the MC in an hotel or something like that.
Anyone has the link of that ?
 

Snugglepuff

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Non vanilla besides femdom and ntr. Everything else is mostly vanilla.
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Bestiality and incest are pretty fucking far from vanilla... All the other sexual content listed are all kinks as well, regardless of them being more aligned to vanilla experiences.

I clearly meant femdom and ntr by these things.
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This response makes absolutely no sense.
Nowhere in what I wrote does it say you're not talking about netorare and femdom.

I agree with him on this, I didn't said anything about this.
Except you did.
You lied about what he said by talking half of one point and half of the following one, and jamming them together like cars in a chop shop.

Yeah well adjustted for ntr. I have played many realistic, non realistic incest games and I know whats needed for that.
You think the MC is one from an NTR focused game... Remember, you were under the delusion that this game has "many ntr paths", which is absolutely false.
Your idea of what makes the protagonist of a story "weak" or in your words a "pussy" is quite probably different from reality. At least you're being consistent in your "beliefs".

I have said situation wise mc is not needed to be like this thats my issue. maybe it wasn't redundant and you have to read my previous comment again.
No, it was and still is a redundant thing that you said.

Given how much shade you throw at this game and in particular WWG's story and character design choices, why do you even play it?
You're not going to force him into changing anything, no matter how much you misinterpret or lie.
 
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AlphaBit

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Given how much shade you throw at this game and in particular WWG's story and character design choices, why do you even play it?
You're not going to force him into changing anything, no matter how much you misinterpret or lie.
Everything else I have already clarified.
I don't know why you are pushing it, it's just a point of view you agree or ignore and move on. But about this.
Its a comedic horror show I admit like someone have already said (previous page). But I like a challenge.
Also I am trying to play through it as I am someone who don't like unavoidable ntr games and dev said everyone can play this game even if you don't like ntr because those are only in the form of avoidable non canonical bad ends but here I am disliking it.
Clearly he is trying to swing both sides almost equally.
But what I am trying to say is that one cannot swing both sides when you are talking about wholesome/vanilla/romance on one side and ntr(especially in form of rape, blackmailing or other controversial genres) on the other, that are two sides of this one in almost equal proportion. And I have played many avoidable ntr games but all of them was trying to deliver for a small portion of their ntr fan base. But that's not the case here, now don't start with mc have more content than any other ntr antagonist if we add what ifs and the game ntr scenes that makes almost 75% of what the original game have or almost 50% of total content put forward by wwg or even more and ntr content is actually a lot better sex scenes/fetishes wise considering this is a porn game so that also matters + MCs character completely a sweet treat for someone who likes ntr and a complete turn off for others who despise it (examples you say well all that big dick small dick scenario don't say it's not targeted because otherwise being a good person doesn't implies you have a small dick and what's with mc crying when Eva said he is ready for graduation, many other examples but don't want to mention them all here. Hell in change logs it's mentioned that to change your ntr toggle you have to click on hunters icon lol even that switch is targeted at ntr fans.
But tbh I don't have to prove that because it's already proved by wwg himself. He said himself that most of his fanbase is ntr based. He said 80% to be precise and that can very well be more than that because he doesn't know everyone. That just shows what group of people would be playing it here too.
Now I am not against ntr enthusiasts but it's better that there are lesser threads that are prone to be filled by debates and arguments and by that I mean there are lesser threads where someone tries to please opposite sides because that's not possible.
Anyway I never said wwg to change anything and I know it's not possible abviosly, I don't know how you couldn't guessed that about me by now.
But I fully expect his next game to be fully ntr because of his supporters and the amount of backlash he is having due to this one, every now and then.
 

Adrien75X

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Hi,

I downloaded the game again after quite a long time and wanted to pursue my run which was at the 5th chapter. I did the D&D event and wanted to continue Catherine's gym event but I got an error saying that the game can't find the cgym variable when I want to complete Catherine gym event...

Should I start a new game ?
 

Noob Salad

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Not a native English speaker but they got what I am saying.

On a side note, you missed a dialogue contradiction error in last bench press gym event with Catherine where she says they will increase the weight from 35 to 45 pounds and in very next dialogue sterling says it would be easy because it's only 20 pounds more. Or are you picking grammar mistakes only, I can understand if that's the case because maths is not everyone's strong suit.

Also nobody picked on me, and yet here you are picking on me while advising everyone to not do that. Isn't it contradictory?
If everyone got what you're saying, then why are they confused?

35 pound plates. That's 70 pounds (35 on each side).
45 pound plates is 90 pounds total (45 on each side).
90 - 70 = 20

You mean contradictorily? I was being coy. Like Frieza.


I am not delutional or paranoid but you need to get over your obsessed thinking that you are the savior of everyone in this thread.
Now I know my arguments were little aggressive but they were not pointed at anyone, they were all about what's in the game.
Now you are the one telling ME "I am this or I am that" like I am not here and then blaming me like you are the victim .
People are blaming you because you're claiming they said things they didn't. That's called gaslighting.
 
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AlphaBit

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What I said that didn't happen in game? Apart from this weights thing. Also who said they are confused, man stop making things up.
Actually nevermind everything I said has already been said by many in ratings and the thread of this game. sorry for repeating what's already been said about it. Just read the 3 or lesser star ratings surely those aren't all biased.
 
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reyerick

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Dont know why, but game autopick all choices. I just press Space/Enter as any other game to pass escene at my 1th play, but i never saw anything to choose in this version. It was autoplayed o.o Any idea how to fix this? There was no way to do so in the settings, as i tried all possible ways pressing TAB and no option was shown. In fact... Only 2 options, start of the game to pick NTR, and one fuc.... someone to cum inside/outside. After i load that escene, no more option shows up lol
 

john984

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Dont know why, but game autopick all choices. I just press Space/Enter as any other game to pass escene at my 1th play, but i never saw anything to choose in this version. It was autoplayed o.o Any idea how to fix this? There was no way to do so in the settings, as i tried all possible ways pressing TAB and no option was shown. In fact... Only 2 options, start of the game to pick NTR, and one fuc.... someone to cum inside/outside. After i load that escene, no more option shows up lol
There are no options, if you enable NTR then it gives 1 option per chapter with a non-canon bad end, if you don't enable it then the game continues.
 
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