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I don't know how young you are but there exists a third option that it's someone 18 years olds because we don't have user "under" 18 here and those types of people are sadly like that:cautious:
I only turned 40 this year, and I've been on these forums for a little over six years.
I was already "just that cynical" about people online... Doesn't help that they keep reinforcing my cynicism. :LOL:
 

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I only turned 40 this year, and I've been on these forums for a little over six years.
I was already "just that cynical" about people online... Doesn't help that they keep reinforcing my cynicism. :LOL:
Ah, a fellow quadragenarian! (y)

That's got me thinking, I wonder how Power Vacuum's fan base breaks down into age groups. I speculate that it skews a little older because the jokes and references would go over many younger players' heads, and the fetishes/taboos would be too much for innocent young minds.
 
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What? Why? Games Happy Friday! Another typo for you.

who's is best
Should be: whose

While I have you here, can you write some jokes about how Ophelia's house looks like it costs millions of dollars? The taxes and insurance alone would be six figures a year. I'm not being hyperbolic that's what I actually calculated. Assuming she lives in the US of course.
 
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Ah, a fellow quadragenarian! (y)

That's got me thinking, I wonder how Power Vacuum's fan base breaks down into age groups. I speculate that it skews a little older because the jokes and references would go over many younger players' heads, and the fetishes/taboos would be too much for innocent young minds.
You are assuming femdom and ntr are something most grownups would like?
And most importantly a beta mc and don't tell me it's the premise. The same situation could be tackled without him liking to be humiliated. It's his character and not the premise. But i can see why it would be appealing to a particular group, maybe those are the reason the mc is made into a pussy. Here I thought so called non canonical bad ends are the only reason, a crowd of them is here.
 
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You are assuming femdom and ntr are something most grownups would like?
I'm saying that most younger players would be turned off by these things, but that's not the same as saying most older players would enjoy them. However, with age comes experience, and over time vanilla depictions of sex can become boring and routine, so many (not "most") older players are likely to be more open-minded (or at least tolerant) toward these fetishes.

And most importantly a beta mc and don't tell me it's the premise. The same situation could be tackled without him liking to be humiliated. It's his character and not the premise. But i can see why it would be appealing to a particular group, maybe those are the reason the mc is made into a pussy. Here I thought so called non canonical bad ends are the only reason, a crowd of them is here.
I don't think letting a woman take charge during sex means a man is a beta. If anything, being afraid of an assertive woman is beta behavior. And our MC is actually far from a beta, which you'd know if you stick with the game.
 
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Why would you assume Fayn is referring to those two specifically, or at all?

Also, why would you ask about "most grownups" if you're one yourself?
What's beside femdom and ntr that he is referring? Everything else seems like porn scenes so far. It's the way how those scenes are achieved that makes a difference between vanilla and non here everything non vanilla is either femdom or ntr.
I actually asked why MOST grown ups would like these things. he straight up said if you are not a grown up you can't understand the fetishes depicted in this story. I am one and are disliking it more as I am going forward in the story and cannot understand why mc has to be pussy to push forward through this situation? But I have already said why it would have been necessary for dev to put that type of mc and I am not repeating that.
 

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I actually asked why MOST grown ups would like these things. he straight up said if you are not a grown up you can't understand the fetishes depicted in this story.
Are you sure that's what I said?

I speculate that it skews a little older because the jokes and references would go over many younger players' heads, and the fetishes/taboos would be too much for innocent young minds.
I actually said young players wouldn't understand the jokes, that's what "going over" someones head means. About the fetishes, I only said they would be "too much" for younger players, which is to say intolerable, not incomprehensible.

Please stop being so hyperbolic, and try harder to understand what you read.
 
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Snugglepuff

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What's beside femdom and ntr that he is referring?
Uh...
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Take your pick.

I actually asked why MOST grown ups would like these things.
No you didn't. You asked why he was assuming NTR and Femdom were things most grownups like.
That's a completely different question. Your question was asking if Fayn assumed that most adults liked NTR and Femdom...

he straight up said if you are not a grown up you can't understand the fetishes depicted in this story.
No, he didn't.
Reread what was written:
I speculate that it skews a little older because the jokes and references would go over many younger players' heads,
This is saying that younger than a certain age group most likely wouldn't understand the humour and references.

I am one and are disliking it more as I am going forward in the story and cannot understand why mc has to be pussy to push forward through this situation?
He's not being a pussy though. He's being a more well adjusted example of the typical incest porn male MC.

But I have already said why it would have been necessary for dev to put that type of mc and I am not repeating that.
So you've already said why you think the MC is the way he is, but again raise that you have an issue with it but go out of your way to say that you've already commented on that and refuse to repeat it... That's an entirely redundant thing to have said.


Please stop being so hyperbolic, and try harder to understand what you read.
Careful now, the victim card will probably come out soon... :LOL:
 

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I'm saying that most younger players would be turned off by these things, but that's not the same as saying most older players would enjoy them. However, with age comes experience, and over time vanilla depictions of sex can become boring and routine, so many (not "most") older players are likely to be more open-minded (or at least tolerant) toward these fetishes.
That seems understandable except open mindedness doesn't imply liking or disliking particular fetishes. Mostly fetish preference never change because at least in these adult games it's not all about sex scenes.
I don't think letting a woman take charge during sex means a man is a beta. If anything, being afraid of an assertive woman is beta behavior. And our MC is actually far from a beta, which you'd know if you stick with the game
I have left that scene behind and aren't even discussing mcs behavior with respect to any other scenes in the story. I am talking about the overall character of the mc maybe I shouldn't use the word beta but being a little dumb in every conversation he is having and also someone who likes femdom not so much but there are clear hints and you know thats not necessary for the situation in the story.
 

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the fetishes/taboos would be too much for innocent young minds.
I actually said young players wouldn't understand the jokes, that's what "going over" someones head means. About the fetishes, I only said they would be "too much" for younger players, which is to say intolerable, not incomprehensible.

Please stop being so hyperbolic, and try harder to understand what you read.
By not understanding I meant not liking so that makes my comment totally relevant to yours and actually thanks for clarifying that you really said that younger minds wouldn't like it and so vice versa but that's not true.
 

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Mostly fetish preference never change because at least in these adult games it's not all about sex scenes.
I'm not sure if that's true. Speaking only for myself (and potentially oversharing!), but I find that my sexual tastes have evolved quite a bit since my adolescence.

I am talking about the overall character of the mc maybe I shouldn't use the word beta but being a little dumb in every conversation he is having and also someone who likes femdom not so much but there are clear hints and you know thats not necessary for the situation in the story.
I don't understand what you mean by "dumb"? I think the MC starts out as inexperienced, but he grows (mentally and physically) over the course of the game. I think it's more interesting to see a character become a Chad than to automatically start as one. It's called storytelling.
 
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Take your pick.
Non vanilla besides femdom and ntr. Everything else is mostly vanilla.
No you didn't. You asked why he was assuming NTR and Femdom were things most grownups like.
That's a completely different question. Your question was asking if Fayn assumed that most adults liked NTR and Femdom...
I clearly meant femdom and ntr by these things.
This is saying that younger than a certain age group most likely wouldn't understand the humour and references
I agree with him on this, I didn't said anything about this.
He's not being a pussy though. He's being a more well adjusted example of the typical incest porn male MC.
Yeah well adjustted for ntr. I have played many realistic, non realistic incest games and I know whats needed for that.
So you've already said why you think the MC is the way he is, but again raise that you have an issue with it but go out of your way to say that you've already commented on that and refuse to repeat it... That's an entirely redundant thing to have said
I have said situation wise mc is not needed to be like this thats my issue. maybe it wasn't redundant and you have to read my previous comment again.
 

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I'm not sure if that's true. Speaking only for myself (and potentially oversharing!), but I find that my sexual tastes have evolved quite a bit since my adolescence.
That's why I said mostly.
I don't understand what you mean by "dumb"? I think the MC starts out as inexperienced, but he grows (mentally and physically) over the course of the game. I think it's more interesting to see a character become a Chad than to automatically start as one. It's called storytelling.
Good I am in chapter 3 currently let's see what happens next.
 
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idk if i am blind but there was an IF about ophelia goes in a date with some dude with brown skin and NTRS the MC in an hotel or something like that.
Anyone has the link of that ?
 

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Non vanilla besides femdom and ntr. Everything else is mostly vanilla.
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Bestiality and incest are pretty fucking far from vanilla... All the other sexual content listed are all kinks as well, regardless of them being more aligned to vanilla experiences.

I clearly meant femdom and ntr by these things.
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This response makes absolutely no sense.
Nowhere in what I wrote does it say you're not talking about netorare and femdom.

I agree with him on this, I didn't said anything about this.
Except you did.
You lied about what he said by talking half of one point and half of the following one, and jamming them together like cars in a chop shop.

Yeah well adjustted for ntr. I have played many realistic, non realistic incest games and I know whats needed for that.
You think the MC is one from an NTR focused game... Remember, you were under the delusion that this game has "many ntr paths", which is absolutely false.
Your idea of what makes the protagonist of a story "weak" or in your words a "pussy" is quite probably different from reality. At least you're being consistent in your "beliefs".

I have said situation wise mc is not needed to be like this thats my issue. maybe it wasn't redundant and you have to read my previous comment again.
No, it was and still is a redundant thing that you said.

Given how much shade you throw at this game and in particular WWG's story and character design choices, why do you even play it?
You're not going to force him into changing anything, no matter how much you misinterpret or lie.
 
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