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A dev may have a thorough roadmap of where a story is going, but if I'm only getting bite sized episodes with nothing happening it's like waiting for Planet Namek to explode, or watching a Disney Plus show; they're only satisfying if you binge watch [EDIT: If they're satisfying at all!]. And since I'm not obsessed with instant gratification anyway, I prefer to wait longer and get larger updates.
PRECISELY, knowing where the story goes, also means, that you know exactly what scenes yo need to work on and therefore, you don't need to add "chaff" to the story. What the heck do you though "knowing where the story goes" meant?
 
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All of these conversations about development time are the exact same lol. The last update took 9 months. If people are expecting it to be any faster I think they're gonna be disappointed. A good amount of the highest rated games on this site update once a year.
YES, and is actually NOT a good thing. Except when they're doing shit revenue, which they could be excused for.

Where I'm living at in the States the average income is around as much money as WWG is pulling in from Patreon, to be exact he's making $4,553/month, it's about the same amount of money as a teacher makes in my area. The average rent for a one bedroom apartment is ~$2,200/month, the average price of a home is more than $500,000 and a pack of cigarettes is 15 goddamn dollars.
Yup, and there's countries in the world were you can live like a king with 2k a month... SO?
 

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did you got some title in the cult? "High boot licker"?
Nope I'm too fucking poor to support any Dev so I can't be a member in any "cult" as you say as such I also can't have a title. What I do have is a Opinion and as this is a Forum I can write about it.

Yup, and there's countries in the world were you can live like a king with 2k a month... SO?
Well are you from one of those Countries where you can live like a King with 2k a month and that's why you don't know what it is like for the Dev? Do you even know where the Dev lives? Doesn't look good to assume things you don't know about.
 

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Nope I'm too fucking poor to support any Dev so I can't be a member in any "cult" as you say as such I also can't have a title. What I do have is a Opinion and as this is a Forum I can write about it.
OH, you don't need to support the dev, you can just pay with your unconditional love through acts of "white knightism". OH, so that was just "your opinion"? It's curious, because when I gave mine through a question, you titled me as "being hurt by someone" and also, "being spiteful". I guess you can add to bootlicker and white knight, also the word hypocrite, isn't it?

Well are you from one of those Countries where you can live like a King with 2k a month and that's why you don't know what it is like for the Dev? Do you even know where the Dev lives? Doesn't look good to assume things you don't know about.
Do you? Do you know where he lives? By the way, using real data, and not fantastic stories, the medium income in USA is 37,5k/year. I would say he probably lives just RIGHT, with 60k/year (counting he lives in USA)... Doesn't look good to pretend to be wise when you're just stupid.
 

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PRECISELY, knowing where the story goes, also means, that you know exactly what scenes yo need to work on and therefore, you don't need to add "chaff" to the story. What the heck do you though "knowing where the story goes" meant?
This, basically. It's the same as "story boarding" like they do with movies. Planning out not only the story, but the individual scenes, character positions, and so on. It's a huge time saver in the long run, and helps avoid wandering off on tangents too often. It's just far too tempting for someone with a strong number of subs to keep stringing things along forever, and it's nice to see when someone "sticks with the script" and bangs out meaningful content moving the story along every time.
 
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OH, you don't need to support the dev, you can just pay with your unconditional love through acts of "white knightism". OH, so that was just "your opinion"? It's curious, because when I gave mine through a question, you titled me as "being hurt by someone" and also, "being spiteful". I guess you can add to bootlicker and white knight, also the word hypocrite, isn't it?



Do you? Do you know where he lives? By the way, using real data, and not fantastic stories, the medium income in USA is 37,5k/year. I would say he probably lives just RIGHT, with 60k/year (counting he lives in USA)... Doesn't look good to pretend to be wise when you're just stupid.
"Fantastic stories" lmao. You can absolutely live on that amount of money. What I meant was that depending on where you are in the States, things have different prices and wages are different. I just thought you were making it sound like this dude is Scrooge McDuck.
 

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"Fantastic stories" lmao. You can absolutely live on that amount of money. What I meant was that depending on where you are in the States, things have different prices and wages are different. I just thought you were making it sound like this dude is Scrooge McDuck.
No, what I was saying is, 5k a month is enough for a person to fully devote to the developing. If people is idiot enough to pay for a lacking dev, is totally okay for me. I'm just astonished as I see hard working devs pulling out a REAL lot of content per update, quite more regular, and also end abandoning, just because the public is retarded enough to support some other lazy dev (i'm not saying this one is, neither think is a hardworker...). And I've seen it happening quite a lot, which it is a really band signal for this market in the long run...
 

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Totally agree on the render part. But you couldn't be more wrong in the writing one. The plot has absolutely NOTHING fresh, is a concept thousands of times written here. About the "character development", is totally inexistent. The only thing that develops is the story, which is the bare minimum, but the characters are practically the same. Also, all the characters have the same witty and fast paced dialogues like if all of them were reading the lines of Dr. Gregory House from the "House" show. So, arguably, NO, the game doesn't have a great writing. Nice render and animation? For sure, but not writing, sorry.
And yes, having all the story and events predetermined DOES give you A LOT of time to fully work on the rendering and writing. What I don't know is where did you pulled out it doesn't...
Your comparison to House might've been off the cuff, but it's still an odd one to make when Power Vacuum is more resemblant of classic sitcoms. Personally I suspect you're just too ignorant to appreciate this game's humor, but if it simply doesn't suit your tastes, that's fine. Just quit trying to pass off your hyperbolic opinions as facts, and move on.
 

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And by the way, if you think this game has a "really well designed interconnected story", i'm so freaking happy, I hope to get new equipment soon and start a project so I can farm people's wallets while scratching my balls... I'm really happy that's the high where the bar is...
Please do make a game, I am always happy to read a good story. I am not saying this is shakespear, but in terms of VNs this is on the well above average side, so if you can do better than this then I am really excited to read your project
 
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Your comparison to House might've been off the cuff, but it's still an odd one to make when Power Vacuum is more resemblant of classic sitcoms. Personally I suspect you're just too ignorant to appreciate this game's humor, but if it simply doesn't suit your tastes, that's fine. Just quit trying to pass off your hyperbolic opinions as facts, and move on.
If by classic sitcoms you mean cheesy witty teenager based humour then yes, I guess you could say it's "classic sitcoms". Which I doubt because, the classic sitcoms I know they're actually fun and not all the characters speak the same way... I don't think I'm "just too ignorant to appreciate this game's humor", I simply think I have a better cultural baggage and taste than you have, enough at least, to read cheap ass machine-laughs comedy and thinking it is top notch. The one who should quit trying to pass as a cultured connoisseur of writing in general and comedy in specific is you, and just admit that you're a butthurt fan pretending to be what you are not.
 

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If by classic sitcoms you mean cheesy witty teenager based humour then yes, I guess you could say it's "classic sitcoms". Which I doubt because, the classic sitcoms I know they're actually fun and not all the characters speak the same way... I don't think I'm "just too ignorant to appreciate this game's humor", I simply think I have a better cultural baggage and taste than you have, enough at least, to read cheap ass machine-laughs comedy and thinking it is top notch. The one who should quit trying to pass as a cultured connoisseur of writing in general and comedy in specific is you, and just admit that you're a butthurt fan pretending to be what you are not.
From your use of the word "butthurt" I can guess that I'm old enough to be your father, and as such, I can assure you I'm not butthurt. Also, if I say "classic sitcoms" and you think "teenager based humour" that's just more proof that you're out of your depth. Honestly I expect better from someone with such a cool username. (y)
 
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It is interesting to see so many different views on this game. I mean, aside from any personal opinion, this game excels at the render and animation quality. A lot of the other aspets, such as the girls models, type of humor, writing, character interactions and so on are very subjective to taste. It is a porn novel, afterall. As far as i can see, there is no obligation to make the writing feel complex and natural as it would be a real person there, as well as there is no "realistic" tag marked. This can make people love the type of humor, or hate it, and the same for other points listed.

As a movie dictates what it wants the viewers to see/feel, by creating scenes a certain way, the same scene can be deeply loved or hated. A certain aspect can be impressive for me, and not even remotably fun for you. Its art, and even porn games do qualify as art.

Now, about the main topic in hand, taking 9 months to deliver an update might be considered a lot for some, and a proper time for others, depending exactly on their expectations. Same goes for 5K a year, which looks like a lot for some regions, or a very limited amount for others. If the Dev made 10k in his latest job, for example, 5k would not look ideal/enough. If the Dev had the ability to write an exceptional story, would he use it in a porn game, with such a limited public and funding? It is very relative, and also very hard to criticize why some people do pay one and not the other Dev.

Knowing a bit of the Top 3D games in this website, and now sharing my opinion, this game is very well above average in terms of renders/animations, and is a bit above in terms of interactions/writing. It is more of a "porn drama" than anything, as it does not want to feel realistic, only to insert yourself (as the MC) in a reality where your problem is getting a huge dick and a very horny family. It does feel corny and absurd, but it does seem on purpose XD.
 
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From your use of the word "butthurt" I can guess that I'm old enough to be your father, and as such, I can assure you I'm not butthurt. Also, if I say "classic sitcoms" and you think "teenager based humour" that's just more proof that you're out of your depth. Honestly I expect better from someone with such a cool username. (y)
I don't think you could be my father, otherwise it would mean you would be pushing through your sixties... No, what's proof is that what you consider "classic sitcoms" are probably popular for all the family soapy comedies, which in my cultural baggage tend to be the American ones... To me, the top notch classic sitcoms are British, and in general, have a quite different tone and quality... I also expect better from a fellow who also uses a mythological username. ;)
 

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I don't think you could be my father, otherwise it would mean you would be pushing through your sixties... No, what's proof is that what you consider "classic sitcoms" are probably popular for all the family soapy comedies, which in my cultural baggage tend to be the American ones... To me, the top notch classic sitcoms are British, and in general, have a quite different tone and quality... I also expect better from a fellow who also uses a mythological username. ;)
I think I'm starting to see the problem here...

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