jmcronshaw

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It's not even a true sandbox. It's a kinetic novel with free roam, but there's no real tasks or quests like actual sandbox focused games make you do. it's just head to whatever room of the house the robot tells you to see the next scene.
99% of the time "i don't like sandboxes" is just code for "i want to tab skip through all the dialogue to the sex scenes"
because saying you don't like sandboxes sounds like you are actually reviewing the game instead of complaining you can't jerk off fast enough
 

FoolishFool0

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thank you, wish the gallery labels the ntr scenes so its easier to see
Eh, you can probably evince which scene is supposed to be NTR in the gallery usually, and the not so obvious ones usually give you a fork in the scene before it, allowing you to see the non-ntr version of the scene instead.
 

jmcronshaw

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Some kind of flawed NTR here. Either do it or don't do it, but to do it and then forbid further actions along this path is disgusting. I don't understand who this game is for. I don't think that fans of NTR will appreciate such an approach. And those who don't like NTR will not appreciate its presence in any form. The game turned out to be too absurd and straightforward, of course, the player doesn't decide anything here and it's unpleasant.
Very funny to see a "i don't know who this game is for" for a game that has been around for 6 years and has had a consistent, and good sized fan base for almost the entire time and has one of the most active threads on this site.
Who is it for? the thousand plus people who pay the dev on patron and the numerous fans here
 

pinkie96

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Some kind of flawed NTR here. Either do it or don't do it, but to do it and then forbid further actions along this path is disgusting. I don't understand who this game is for. I don't think that fans of NTR will appreciate such an approach. And those who don't like NTR will not appreciate its presence in any form. The game turned out to be too absurd and straightforward, of course, the player doesn't decide anything here and it's unpleasant.
For Me :)

I prefer bad ends opposed to a NTR route. An NTR route would get boring and have no story, I also don't want a cuck simulator.

The bad ends have provided a lot of different enjoyable scenarios to have as side content for the main story. Rather than very limited branching paths that try to maintain consistency within the full story which leads to little depth and slow development.
 

dartred

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Some kind of flawed NTR here. Either do it or don't do it, but to do it and then forbid further actions along this path is disgusting. I don't understand who this game is for. I don't think that fans of NTR will appreciate such an approach. And those who don't like NTR will not appreciate its presence in any form. The game turned out to be too absurd and straightforward, of course, the player doesn't decide anything here and it's unpleasant.
This game is very successful on patreon. so apparently it's for a lot of people? for one, i love the way it's handled. it's different from NTR routes because every time is the woman's first time being NTR'd and the first time the MC is being NTR'd. so their interactions with the NTR are always different. The NTR doesn't get dull because the woman is already won over, they can't be stolen anymore then they already are. If it was a route that is.
 

HUNUTAN

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This game is very successful on patreon. so apparently it's for a lot of people? for one, i love the way it's handled. it's different from NTR routes because every time is the woman's first time being NTR'd and the first time the MC is being NTR'd. so their interactions with the NTR are always different. The NTR doesn't get dull because the woman is already won over, they can't be stolen anymore then they already are. If it was a route that is.
As you say, I don't know how successful it is and with whom. So I have no other options except to trust your words.
Well, I don't know, other developers somehow make the NTR route for "conquered" women. And sometimes these routes intersect with the usual path. And it looks quite normal. Here, there's an old man who gets any woman with a snap of his fingers and no one is embarrassed by it.)
Whose fault is it that the protagonist is so squeamish that he immediately cuts off all other options. Sometimes I'm even ashamed to play for this klutz.)
So here it's just a reluctance to make more than one path, perhaps because of the complexity of such a thing. Nothing more.
 

HUNUTAN

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For Me :)

I prefer bad ends opposed to a NTR route. An NTR route would get boring and have no story, I also don't want a cuck simulator.

The bad ends have provided a lot of different enjoyable scenarios to have as side content for the main story. Rather than very limited branching paths that try to maintain consistency within the full story which leads to little depth and slow development.
Well, I generally like bad endings too. But I also like the path that leads to them. What's the point of such endings if they are just sudden and unfounded? And I don't like the cuckold mode either, but it's interesting to share an example (which, by the way, is not here at all). But all this is attributed to NTR.
 

Fayn Arawn

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So here it's just a reluctance to make more than one path, perhaps because of the complexity of such a thing. Nothing more.
If this game had a full NTR path and a vanilla path, it would be two separate stories developed in parallel, which would take twice as long to make. No one wants that.

The way this game implements NTR is fresh and novel. Each NTR event is a separate branch off the original timeline, so they're always a surprise. An NTR route would be too boring for most players, as pinkie96 mentioned it would be a "cuck simulator" because the main character would endure endless humiliation.

Try to view the story as something like a time-travel movie, when something bad happens you go back and avoid it, but then new bad things can happen instead. It keeps the audience interested to see what might happen.
 

dartred

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Whose fault is it that the protagonist is so squeamish that he immediately cuts off all other options. Sometimes I'm even ashamed to play for this klutz.)
I don't know if you only watched the sex scenes and held CTRL during dialogue, but Hunter is black mailing Sterling to keep quiet. He is not allowed to tell anyone about Hunters plans or he will kick them all out of the house and at the start of the game, no one was making money. they would have been homeless. It's not like Sterling did nothing either. every choice scene was him thwarting Hunter in some way.

He couldn't truly act until he had enough evidence to even prove all his claims that Hunter was up to something. If he made those claims early, there was no way he could have proved Hunter was really doing all the things he claimed. It was last chapter where he had enough evidence and tools. He had Lucia and Drew to back up his claims. The truth telling gas. the video footage. the vault with gun and diary.

It was a matter of biding his time. Not that he was a coward.
 
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HUNUTAN

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I don't know if you only watched the sex scenes and held CTRL during dialogue, but Hunter is black mailing Sterling to keep quiet. He is not allowed to tell anyone about Hunters plans or he will kick them all out of the house and at the start of the game, no one was making money. they would have been homeless. It's not like Sterling did nothing either. every choice scene was him thwarting Hunter in some way.

He couldn't truly act until he had enough evidence to even prove all his claims that Hunter was up to something. If he made those claims early, there was no way he could have proved Hunter was really doing all the things he claimed. It was last chapter where he had enough evidence and tools. He had Lucia and Drew to back up his claims. The truth telling gas. the video footage. the vault with gun and diary.

It was a matter of biding his time. Not that he was a coward.
Why did you decide that I mean his relationship with Hunter? Not at all, I mean his relationships with women, in which his only initiative is an occasional erection. And even that is not always work...
 

dartred

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Why did you decide that I mean his relationship with Hunter? Not at all, I mean his relationships with women, in which his only initiative is an occasional erection. And even that is not always work...
sorry. you didn't say who you were talking about, but you were talking about NTR so Hunter was where i thought you were going with it.
 
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NTR4Lyfe

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For Me :)

I prefer bad ends opposed to a NTR route. An NTR route would get boring and have no story, I also don't want a cuck simulator.

The bad ends have provided a lot of different enjoyable scenarios to have as side content for the main story. Rather than very limited branching paths that try to maintain consistency within the full story which leads to little depth and slow development.
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john984

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I wonder how DARK this last chapter's bad end would be, ch12 we got Hunter killing Lucia and Drew, and having Sterling with no arms and legs. What else can he do to Sterling now? WWG will definitely surprise us
 
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Fayn Arawn

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I wonder how DARK this last chapter's bad end would be, ch12 we got Hunter killing Lucia and Drew, and having Sterling with no arms and legs. What else can he do to Sterling now? WWG will definitely surprise us
Those will be hard to top. It's hard to imagine because it doesn't feel consistent with the characters, but maybe the ladies somehow get corrupted to turn against Sterling and harm him somehow, or Hunter harms the ladies in some heinous way. :unsure:
 
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Gwimmly

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Those will be hard to top. It's hard to imagine because it doesn't feel consistent with the characters, but maybe the ladies somehow get corrupted to turn against Sterling and harm him somehow, or Hunter harms the ladies in some heinous way. :unsure:
I haven't played the game in a long time but am I remembering correctly that Sterling finally gets to play the victim once the girls finally found out he wasn't lying about Hunter the whole time? It feels nice to be able to play the victim sometimes and say "I fucking told you so!!"
 

Gwimmly

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For Me :)

I prefer bad ends opposed to a NTR route. An NTR route would get boring and have no story, I also don't want a cuck simulator.

The bad ends have provided a lot of different enjoyable scenarios to have as side content for the main story. Rather than very limited branching paths that try to maintain consistency within the full story which leads to little depth and slow development.
Yeah we get way more NTR this way I feel like lol
 
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