Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[dartred]

I can only think of one way that this can go darker than ever and that is if Hunter comes back and deploys no tricks, no gas, no drinks, just straight rapes the women.

 

[Gwimmly]

For Me

I prefer bad ends opposed to a NTR route. An NTR route would get boring and have no story, I also don't want a cuck simulator.

The bad ends have provided a lot of different enjoyable scenarios to have as side content for the main story. Rather than very limited branching paths that try to maintain consistency within the full story which leads to little depth and slow development.

Yeah we get way more NTR this way I feel like lol

 

[Gwimmly]

I can only think of one way that this can go darker than ever and that is if Hunter comes back and deploys no tricks, no gas, no drinks, just straight rapes the women.

Or even worse we find out they want him without any tricks

 

[Fayn Arawn]

I haven't played the game in a long time but am I remembering correctly that Sterling finally gets to play the victim once the girls finally found out he wasn't lying about Hunter the whole time? It feels nice to be able to play the victim sometimes and say "I fucking told you so!!"

The big confrontation with Hunter only just happened right at the end of Chapter 12. Then new Annabelle showed up, Hunter escaped, and the chapter ended. So I guess we'll see in Chapter 13?

 

[jamiehmcw91]

I can only think of one way that this can go darker than ever and that is if Hunter comes back and deploys no tricks, no gas, no drinks, just straight rapes the women.

Thats what I am thinking.

 

[dartred]

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where do you host your sig? i tried imgur but it keeps deleting it and killing my sig.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

where do you host your sig? i tried imgur but it keeps deleting it and killing my sig.

Per the general rules, section 6.2, sigs are uploaded to the sig thread.

https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2024-06-04.5589/

https://f95zone.to/threads/post-your-signatures-here.17387/

 

[dartred]

Per the general rules, section 6.2, sigs are uploaded to the sig thread.

https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2024-06-04.5589/

https://f95zone.to/threads/post-your-signatures-here.17387/

Oh, i see he already uploaded them there too lol

 

[DD69-1]

This game is very successful on patreon. so apparently it's for a lot of people? for one, i love the way it's handled. it's different from NTR routes because every time is the woman's first time being NTR'd and the first time the MC is being NTR'd. so their interactions with the NTR are always different. The NTR doesn't get dull because the woman is already won over, they can't be stolen anymore then they already are. If it was a route that is.

I'm not sure that it's for a lot of people. As a vanilla fan, I wouldn't support this game knowing that there is NTR content being developed and that is delaying the release of the update. Because it's nice for people who like NTR content, since they get a huge-ass update, but for vanilla/non-ntr fans the update is relatively smaller.
Hence, wouldn't mind pledging back when WWG develops his new game.

 

[pinkie96]

I'm not sure that it's for a lot of people. As a vanilla fan, I wouldn't support this game knowing that there is NTR content being developed and that is delaying the release of the update. Because it's nice for people who like NTR content, since they get a huge-ass update, but for vanilla/non-ntr fans the update is relatively smaller.
Hence, wouldn't mind pledging back when WWG develops his new game.

This line of reasoning is funny given that if you and other vanilla fans supported then you could've voted for vanilla content

 

[RoamingZone]

This line of reasoning is funny given that if you and other vanilla fans supported then you could've voted for vanilla content

Yeah seems dude has a trauma with NTR to the point he has been counting the ntr events in this next update XD.

 

[harem.king]

This game is very successful on patreon.

I looked it up after seeing this.
This game is bringing in 4878$/month on patreon.
which comes out to 58,536$/year gross income.
you can live on that, barely, in 2024.

the best patreon bux I have seen one dev make on patreon was summertime saga. which briefly peaked previously at 80k in a single month before dropping some. currently it does not say how much he makes.
But it does say he has 97707 subs of which 33,314 are paying him, with a minimum pay of 1$...
so at a bare minimum he is pulling 33k/mo, 399.8k/year. probably a lot more.

 

[pinkie96]

I looked it up after seeing this.
This game is bringing in 4878$/month on patreon.
which comes out to 58,536$/year gross income.
you can live on that, barely, in 2024.

the best patreon bux I have seen one dev make on patreon was summertime saga. which briefly peaked previously at 80k in a single month before dropping some. currently it does not say how much he makes.
But it does say he has 97707 subs of which 33,314 are paying him, with a minimum pay of 1$...
so at a bare minimum he is pulling 33k/mo, 399.8k/year. probably a lot more.

How is $58,536 a year barley living? Median Income in the USA is 37,585 USD.

That cookie guy being a millionaire off of summertime saga is crazy.

 

[harem.king]

How is $58,536 a year barley living? Median Income in the USA is 37,585 USD.

inflation is a bitch like that.

You must be registered to see the links

is $2,060/mo. which comes out to 24,720/year
let us take the median income of 37585. Standard deduction is $14,600 which means you are paying taxes on 22985$, except for the payroll taxes like social security which are not deducted.
That puts you at 12% federal tax bracket. so 2758.2$ to uncle sam.
plus state taxes.

plus payroll taxes which is

You must be registered to see the links

and ignores deductions which means 5750.505$. if you are a proper employee you pay half and boss pays half. if you are a "contractor" (an employee with shitty boss) you pay the whole thing. Also if you are a REAL contractor too, but if you are a real contractor you should be pulling in way more than that.
For most people they are fake contractors so their boss can screw them over.
so that is 8508.7 taxes thus far + state taxes. which varies from 0% in alaska to 10%+ in new york. 10% being 2299$
oh and you then get taxed again on your property owned AND on anything you buy via sales tax.

Between income tax, payroll tax, sales tax, property taxes (house, car, etc), and assorted other taxes, uncle sam gets a nice big bite of your paycheck.
Saying you pay 30% in tax is lowballing it. and 30% of 37585$ is which is 11275.5$

37585% -taxes = 26309.5$ - rent = 1589.5$
the average household spends

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(which does not account for any eating out, which is often out of necessity due to work interfering with ability to cook). this comes out to 15,486$ / year on groceries.
1589.5$ - 15,486$ = −13,896.5$

now add in utilities, gasoline, car insurance, health insurance, healthcare (because health insurance does not pay all your healthcare and 2/3rds of americans are obese and thus sick and need care)
and you end up with negative money.
god help you if you have children.

The real indicator of economic health is how many adults move back into their mother's basement because they literally can't afford to live. As realistically the only thing you can cut out of the above equation I listed is rent.
In the great depression 52% of all adults in usa moved back into their parents due to "financial hardship".
In 2024 we already passed this figure. Currently more adults are forced to live in their mom's basement than in the great depression.
Making this the "Even Greater Depression"

Also, most so called job listings are ghost jobs. fake jobs put out by HR departments not actually looking to hire anyone. They just have fake job postings for whatever reason.

 

[dartred]

I looked it up after seeing this.
This game is bringing in 4878$/month on patreon.
which comes out to 58,536$/year gross income.
you can live on that, barely, in 2024.

the best patreon bux I have seen one dev make on patreon was summertime saga. which briefly peaked previously at 80k in a single month before dropping some. currently it does not say how much he makes.
But it does say he has 97707 subs of which 33,314 are paying him, with a minimum pay of 1$...
so at a bare minimum he is pulling 33k/mo, 399.8k/year. probably a lot more.

It's livable, but what i meant was in porn game standards. it's doing some of the best out of all VN porn games in the market. very few bring in almost 5k a month.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

inflation is a bitch like that.

You must be registered to see the links

is $2,060/mo. which comes out to 24,720/year
let us take the median income of 37585. Standard deduction is $14,600 which means you are paying taxes on 22985$, except for the payroll taxes like social security which are not deducted.
That puts you at 12% federal tax bracket. so 2758.2$ to uncle sam.
plus state taxes.

plus payroll taxes (which are double if you are "contractor"). payroll tax is

You must be registered to see the links

which means 5750.505$. if you are a proper employee you pay half and boss pays half. if you are a "contractor" (employee with shitty boss) you pay the whole thing. For most people the situation is the latter, they are false contractors. so that is 8508.7 taxes + state taxes. which varies from 0% in alaska to 10%+ in new york.
oh and you then get taxed again on your property owned AND on anything you buy via sales tax.

Between income tax, payroll tax, sales tax, property taxes (house, car, etc), and assorted other taxes, uncle sam gets a nice big bite of your paycheck.
Saying you pay 30% in tax is lowballing it. and 30% of 37585$ is which is 11275.5$

37585% -taxes = 26309.5$ - rent = 1589.5$
the average household spends

You must be registered to see the links

(which does not account for any eating out, which is often out of necessity due to work interfering with ability to cook). this comes out to 15,486$ / year on groceries.
1589.5$ - 15,486$ = −13,896.5$

now add in utilities, gasoline, car insurance, health insurance, healthcare (because health insurance does not pay all your healthcare and 2/3rds of americans are obese and thus sick and need care)
and you end up with negative money.
god help you if you have children.

The real indicator of economic health is how many adults move back into their mother's basement because they literally can't afford to live. As realistically the only thing you can cut out of the above equation I listed is rent.
In the great depression 52% of all adults in usa moved back into their parents due to "financial hardship".
In 2024 we already passed this figure. Currently more adults are forced to live in their mom's basement than in the great depression.
Making this the "Even Greater Depression"

Also, most so called job listings are ghost jobs. fake jobs put out by HR departments not actually looking to hire anyone. They just have fake job postings for whatever reason.

Oh also as a contractor you are solely responsible for payroll taxes (social security tax) which you cannot reduce by tax deductions. Even if your taxable income is 0$ after all deduction you still have to pay social security tax on your gross. because "lol fuck poor people".
Naturally almost every business out there is forcing all its employees to be falsely listed as contractors just so they can fuck them over on the payroll taxes.

I agree with your analysis, but I'd point out there are two major variables we don't know: 1) where WWG lives, as the cost of living can vary greatly based on this, and 2) if he has a working partner to share the financial burden with.

 

[harem.king]

I agree with your analysis, but I'd point out there are two major variables we don't know: 1) where WWG lives, as the cost of living can vary greatly based on this, and 2) if he has a working partner to share the financial burden with.

Fair enough.

 

[ImlerithRate]

Yeah seems dude has a trauma with NTR to the point he has been counting the ntr events in this next update XD.

Ntr is the best part of this game for me. Bro just doesn't realize what he's missing. Shame that dev is no longer making episodes for "What Ifs"

 

[indio68]

Ntr is the best part of this game for me. Bro just doesn't realize what he's missing. Shame that dev is no longer making episodes for "What Ifs"

being a cuck to me , is a total MISS...thanks god no more ntr shit..there are tons of games with that...so good as it is...what is Missing is the damn UPDATE

 

[ImlerithRate]

being a cuck to me , is a total MISS...thanks god no more ntr shit..there are tons of games with that...so good as it is...what is Missing is the damn UPDATE

No one's forcing you to be a cuck. Learn to observe the process from a third-person perspective. And distinguish between a fictional story and a real one, bud.