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Honestly the only thing I have against Eileen is she was planning to rape Catherine to hurt Brenna. But after Brenna rapes Eileen instead, Catherine's comments during the movie make Brenna realize two wrongs don't make a right. She feels guilty enough to make amends with Bathsheba (the hotel clerk), which we'll see in chapter 13. Maybe this'll also pave the way for some kind of reconciliation with Eileen? All of her evil deeds seem motivated by some kind of childhood trauma, so maybe there's a path for redemption. :unsure:

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Plus, per the (previously leaked) breast size chart wallpaper, Eileen's got the biggest tits in the game! Sterling's gotta get a piece of her! :devilish:

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But where is Drew in this size chart? Also, still holding out for Sterling to bumble his way into seducing Drew as well.
 
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I'm pretty sure he didn't want to get rid of him at first. At first I think he was trying to train Sterling the same way he trained Drew and just figured he'd come around eventually. He helps Sterling with a few other things as well. I think he only changed his mind after he lost his eye. In what of the what ifs he does train Sterling at the start of the game, so I feel like the only real difference is that Sterling in canon denied the fact he was attracted to his family at first, so Hunter went behind Sterling back to train him.
Hunter actually trained him, until at some point he realized that Sterling is not like Hunter or Drew, Hunter initially showed him how to seduce women and other things, when Sterling returned home, and immediately realized that Sterling was a threat to Hunter and interfered with his plans. after all, this is a confrontation, since Sterling's father lost, then Sterling can protect the family... now the question is, will he keep the harem without Hunter? I think yes, at some point we see all the women’s love for Sterling, since Ophelia already knows who her son is fucking with, this is already a good sign even without Hunter’s drugs.
Hunter just pushed them more into the intimacy that he wanted for himself, and of course Sterling got them, he was in the right place at the right time and prevented debauchery... then it will be interesting what kind of fun awaits us
I don't think Hunter trained MC yet, except indirectly by showing by accident what he is doing, but it didn't stick. he might have wanted to do it after he finished the conquest of the house. and to prepare for that, he used the growth hormone early for an immediate effect, which completely backfired as it made MC more attractive for the drugged up girls while Hunter barely made any progress as MC is a natural with the loving and caring aspect of his legacy. The use of heavier drugs might have marked a complete shift where Hunter decided MC is a threat. Drew had a hard time believing Hunter had to come to that level to overcome MC.
Now that Hunter is gone, it could be interesting if Drew teaches MC actual sex skills. right now, MC has zero skill except just thrusting like a maniac. he is still at a risk that any more experienced lover, Drew for instance, can come and take over by skill and technique alone, just as we can see in all of the bad endings. For example, among all the users of the dark web streaming, at least one or two could piece together who the characters are and where to find them, and come to take everything for themselves.
MC and Drew could share the house and visiting girls, with some exclusive to each, but that would make for some unavoidable NTR and most players wouldn't like it. Honestly, right now, MC alone is not enough to protect the house. He needs Drew at least.

He does all his animations on Daz.
which is quite impressive knowing how bad and unintuitive Daz is :D
 

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But where is Drew in this size chart? Also, still holding out for Sterling to bumble his way into seducing Drew as well.
Drew said he preferred women and has mostly been with women in Tiff's bad ending. so it could be that Drew only was with MC's dad, and Drew was the top in that relationship, it might have only been as revenge for taking away Keira and Nora and breaking up their family.

By the way, Keira, Nora, Drew and Hunter were all consenting adults. David's reaction might have been fueled only by jealousy if he was with his mother before. We don't know if he tried with his own sister too. He might just have been super possessive, even if he tried to rationalize it with him protecting his family. He made Keira and Nora's life worse off afterward, especially financially, and Lucia grew up without knowing who fathered her with all the consequences.
 
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I don't think Hunter trained MC yet, except indirectly by showing by accident what he is doing, but it didn't stick. he might have wanted to do it after he finished the conquest of the house. and to prepare for that, he used the growth hormone early for an immediate effect, which completely backfired as it made MC more attractive for the drugged up girls while Hunter barely made any progress as MC is a natural with the loving and caring aspect of his legacy. The use of heavier drugs might have marked a complete shift where Hunter decided MC is a threat. Drew had a hard time believing Hunter had to come to that level to overcome MC.
Now that Hunter is gone, it could be interesting if Drew teaches MC actual sex skills. right now, MC has zero skill except just thrusting like a maniac. he is still at a risk that any more experienced lover, Drew for instance, can come and take over by skill and technique alone, just as we can see in all of the bad endings. For example, among all the users of the dark web streaming, at least one or two could piece together who the characters are and where to find them, and come to take everything for themselves.
MC and Drew could share the house and visiting girls, with some exclusive to each, but that would make for some unavoidable NTR and most players wouldn't like it. Honestly, right now, MC alone is not enough to protect the house. He needs Drew at least.



which is quite impressive knowing how bad and unintuitive Daz is :D


Well we found out from the Dev that Hunter was the one who gave Ophelia the dildo shaped like Sterling's dick, which doesn't make any sense unless he was trying to help Sterling seduce her. I don't think he saw Sterling as a threat at all until he was actively getting injured in these failed attempts. Hunter in the earlier chapters only really seemed to have an issue with the fact that sterling refused to share.
 

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Any news on this? Any possibility? Or confirmation that it would never happen Especially in canon.
Dev really doesn't need to say that Sterling fucking / getting fucked by a futa/trans isn't going to be canon.

Though there is no confirmation it's going to happen in a bad end either. Not saying that won't happen, but if it does, it will be in a bad end or non-canon choice.
 

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Well we found out from the Dev that Hunter was the one who gave Ophelia the dildo shaped like Sterling's dick, which doesn't make any sense unless he was trying to help Sterling seduce her. I don't think he saw Sterling as a threat at all until he was actively getting injured in these failed attempts. Hunter in the earlier chapters only really seemed to have an issue with the fact that sterling refused to share.
Well, it does make sense since it could be used as blackmail material. If his endgame, Hunter could easily say that it was Sterling who gave her the dildo since it's modelled after his dick ("and here's exhibit D... sorry, that should be a little d..."). And yes, he did start to see Sterling as a threat after he got injured. Earlier on, Hunter saw Sterling as a cuck in waiting, but as time progressed and things got harder, he saw Sterling as a threat. And Hunter never trained Sterling. He offered, but Sterling turned him down since he wasn't interested in both fucking his family and (later) sharing.

Actually, here's food for thought: if it hadn't been Hunter who first showed up, but Drew, would Sterling still be against sharing? Because I feel his unwillingness to share comes first of all of trying to keep Hunter away. We can see a same unwillingness when Derik shows up in Hunter. Instead of reaching out to Derik, Hunter threatens him to keep Derik away. Since Drew was willing to play it fair (and less agressive than Hunter), would Sterling still be so opposed to sharing?
 

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Well, it does make sense since it could be used as blackmail material. If his endgame, Hunter could easily say that it was Sterling who gave her the dildo since it's modelled after his dick ("and here's exhibit D... sorry, that should be a little d..."). And yes, he did start to see Sterling as a threat after he got injured. Earlier on, Hunter saw Sterling as a cuck in waiting, but as time progressed and things got harder, he saw Sterling as a threat. And Hunter never trained Sterling. He offered, but Sterling turned him down since he wasn't interested in both fucking his family and (later) sharing.

Actually, here's food for thought: if it hadn't been Hunter who first showed up, but Drew, would Sterling still be against sharing? Because I feel his unwillingness to share comes first of all of trying to keep Hunter away. We can see a same unwillingness when Derik shows up in Hunter. Instead of reaching out to Derik, Hunter threatens him to keep Derik away. Since Drew was willing to play it fair (and less agressive than Hunter), would Sterling still be so opposed to sharing?
I can't really think of any ways hunter could use it as black mail material and it wouldn't make sense to get it to Ophelia anonymously if that was the case. And if Hunter was going to use it as blackmail material I can't think of a reason why he didn't. I don't think Hunter ever saw Sterling as a cuck in waiting. It seems obvious to me that Hunter is training Sterling without Sterling knowing otherwise neither the dildo or the growth hormones make anysense. At the start of the game Sterling wouldnt even admit he was attracted to his family and Hunter had to push him in that direction. And the answer to the drew thing is still yes. I don't think it being Drew or Hunter would have made any difference. Sterling still would have been against them trying to fuck his family. I don't think there is anyone who Sterling would be ok with it, even if Hunter wasn't related to him, a rapist or an ugly bastard.
 

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Actually, here's food for thought: if it hadn't been Hunter who first showed up, but Drew, would Sterling still be against sharing? Because I feel his unwillingness to share comes first of all of trying to keep Hunter away. We can see a same unwillingness when Derik shows up in Hunter. Instead of reaching out to Derik, Hunter threatens him to keep Derik away. Since Drew was willing to play it fair (and less agressive than Hunter), would Sterling still be so opposed to sharing?
If Drew had shown up instead of Hunter, I think Drew would've had an easier time seducing the house. Given her natural charms, Drew probably wouldn't have needed any help from drugs. She seems to have high empathy, and authentically cares about others (even as she's trying to sleep with them), which would've made them open up to her the same way they do for Sterling. And given most (all?) of the girls bisexual tendencies, Drew is literally "the best of both worlds" and appeals to their sexual fantasies.

I can imagine a scenario where all the girls would've joined Drew's harem of their own free will, while Sterling remained a scrawny weakling. Having realized that Drew was not evil and all the girls were happy, Sterling would eventually accept the new status quo. At some point, perhaps based on her own view of the Dio Del Sesso tradition, Drew might've encouraged Sterling to have sex with the girls in order to impregnate them (since Drew can't) and pass on the DDS genes. Drew doesn't seem possessive to me, so I think she would've allowed it.
 

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Well we found out from the Dev that Hunter was the one who gave Ophelia the dildo shaped like Sterling's dick, which doesn't make any sense unless he was trying to help Sterling seduce her. I don't think he saw Sterling as a threat at all until he was actively getting injured in these failed attempts. Hunter in the earlier chapters only really seemed to have an issue with the fact that sterling refused to share.
the MC dildo could simply be just a way to prepare Ophelia for bigger dicks too. her husband has a small dick, so her vagina would be used to that size. though she had 3 kids, it's still porn logic and everyone is super tight xD
the growth hormones would be because MC is still family, and the most likely to create descendants as Drew is now sterile. and he could be trained after the house is conquered.

Actually, here's food for thought: if it hadn't been Hunter who first showed up, but Drew, would Sterling still be against sharing? Because I feel his unwillingness to share comes first of all of trying to keep Hunter away. We can see a same unwillingness when Derik shows up in Hunter. Instead of reaching out to Derik, Hunter threatens him to keep Derik away. Since Drew was willing to play it fair (and less agressive than Hunter), would Sterling still be so opposed to sharing?
Drew wouldn't have straight up come out in front of MC and announce the incest and conquest of the house. He would do it at a normal pace, through love and care and deception, behind MC's back. MC wouldn't even know it happened until it was too late. MC felt jealous and protective when Derik came, and he never got a girlfriend before, he never got to experience and deal with jealousy before. He can't deal with sharing with another male at this point. He doesn't seem to mind his girls playing with other girls though.
 

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the MC dildo could simply be just a way to prepare Ophelia for bigger dicks too. her husband has a small dick, so her vagina would be used to that size. though she had 3 kids, it's still porn logic and everyone is super tight xD
the growth hormones would be because MC is still family, and the most likely to create descendants as Drew is now sterile. and he could be trained after the house is conquered.



Drew wouldn't have straight up come out in front of MC and announce the incest and conquest of the house. He would do it at a normal pace, through love and care and deception, behind MC's back. MC wouldn't even know it happened until it was too late. MC felt jealous and protective when Derik came, and he never got a girlfriend before, he never got to experience and deal with jealousy before. He can't deal with sharing with another male at this point. He doesn't seem to mind his girls playing with other girls though.


If the idea was to prepare Orphelia for biggeer dicks it still doesn't make sense. He could have had one modeled after him or simply bought one and the growth hormones wouldn't be something to get passed down like that. Plus it would be super irrelevant as Hunter could just get t them pregnant

I really can't think of any other logic for Hunter's actions other than he was helping Sterling.
 

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I can't really think of any ways hunter could use it as black mail material and it wouldn't make sense to get it to Ophelia anonymously if that was the case. And if Hunter was going to use it as blackmail material I can't think of a reason why he didn't.
Didn't Hunter bring his whole powerpoint presentation on how everything was Sterling's doing? That would have been one of his bullet points.
 
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Didn't Hunter bring his whole powerpoint presentation on how everything was Sterling's doing? That would have been one of his bullet points.

It wasn't one of the bulletin points though and it happened before Hunter deemed sterling as a threat. If it was actual blackmail he would have used it. There's no real logical explanation other than to get Ophelia more open to the idea of having sex with Sterling.
 

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If the idea was to prepare Orphelia for biggeer dicks it still doesn't make sense. He could have had one modeled after him or simply bought one and the growth hormones wouldn't be something to get passed down like that. Plus it would be super irrelevant as Hunter could just get t them pregnant

I really can't think of any other logic for Hunter's actions other than he was helping Sterling.
or just increasing Ophelia sex drive in addition to the drugs and aphrodisiacs. as the dildo looks exactly like a real dick instead of a generic toy. or just for the chaos it would create. when she found out the truth about the dildo, it didn't really help MC.
 

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Hunter actually trained him, until at some point he realized that Sterling is not like Hunter or Drew, Hunter initially showed him how to seduce women and other things, when Sterling returned home, and immediately realized that Sterling was a threat to Hunter and interfered with his plans. after all, this is a confrontation, since Sterling's father lost, then Sterling can protect the family... now the question is, will he keep the harem without Hunter? I think yes, at some point we see all the women’s love for Sterling, since Ophelia already knows who her son is fucking with, this is already a good sign even without Hunter’s drugs.
Hunter just pushed them more into the intimacy that he wanted for himself, and of course Sterling got them, he was in the right place at the right time and prevented debauchery... then it will be interesting what kind of fun awaits us
Hunter couldn't preach his ways to sterling, he's too good a person to go that route, no matter what, is hunter your ideal?
 

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Hunter couldn't preach his ways to sterling, he's too good a person to go that route, no matter what, is hunter your ideal?
he is not that good of a person at all. he did and push for the things he confronted hunter with. he only stays away from the extreme stuff. he still fucks his whole family and profited massively from the drugs, let's not kid ourselves there :D
 

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or just increasing Ophelia sex drive in addition to the drugs and aphrodisiacs. as the dildo looks exactly like a real dick instead of a generic toy. or just for the chaos it would create. when she found out the truth about the dildo, it didn't really help MC.
You can find plenty of dildos that look like a real dick and giving her a dildo wouldnt have increased it anymore than the drugs. She admitted the fact it was modeled after sterling's turned her on. It seems obvious that Hunter was helping Sterling seduce the house and pretty much every other explanation for a of his actions including the growth hormones seem like stretches.
 

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It seems obvious that Hunter was helping Sterling seduce the house and pretty much every other explanation for a of his actions including the growth hormones seem like stretches.
Now, I'm not saying that Sterling didn't benefit from everything Hunter did (because that's obvious), but Hunter did NOT do that to help Sterling. He did it to reap the benefits himself. Hunter only cares about himself. He may have reached out to Sterling at the start, but Sterling turned him down. So to think that Hunter would still help Sterling after he refused, that's a stretch. Everything that happened was to help Hunter. Sterling just happened to benefit from it instead.
 
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