Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[storm1051787]

Just played this.
I immediately got the portrait bug, but I found it's easy to fix by just starting a new game, and skip to when the portraits first appear, then load the save

the dialog writing is really incredible. all the mainstream culture references and commentary is great.
it's really a shame there is no music or sound at all, because the renders are super detailed.
aside from the bad endings, there is no choice, it's basically a kinetic novel. the sandbox format isn't really needed.

the fact that I personally despise Catherine means she is a great character, really well written. I bet there are tons of posts in this thread about her.
MC clearly needs a spine. he lived for 4 years alone but his confidence is abysmal. even after building a big harem, his confidence barely increased.

some of the bad endings are really brutal xD
Drew's happy ending was kind of wholesome.
and Kevin's and Ophelia's son should have the most massive dick in the whole game as he carries the genes of both families with dicks bigger than MC's xD

I was surprised that Hunter didn't try to teach and team up with MC to have a legacy beyond Drew. We don't know why he helped MC get taller and bigger too if he knew he wanted to get rid of him anyway. was it just for the streaming show ?
MC's harem happened in major part thanks to Hunter's drugs. but now that Hunter is gone, how will MC manage all the girls ? Drew is more experienced and skilled, and she is still around with a bigger/better dick. the competition is tough.

after playing this VN, I will need something super vanilla and wholesome

I'm pretty sure he didn't want to get rid of him at first. At first I think he was trying to train Sterling the same way he trained Drew and just figured he'd come around eventually. He helps Sterling with a few other things as well. I think he only changed his mind after he lost his eye. In what of the what ifs he does train Sterling at the start of the game, so I feel like the only real difference is that Sterling in canon denied the fact he was attracted to his family at first, so Hunter went behind Sterling back to train him.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Just played this.
I immediately got the portrait bug, but I found it's easy to fix by just starting a new game, and skip to when the portraits first appear, then load the save

the dialog writing is really incredible. all the mainstream culture references and commentary is great.
it's really a shame there is no music or sound at all, because the renders are super detailed.
aside from the bad endings, there is no choice, it's basically a kinetic novel. the sandbox format isn't really needed.

the fact that I personally despise Catherine means she is a great character, really well written. I bet there are tons of posts in this thread about her.
MC clearly needs a spine. he lived for 4 years alone but his confidence is abysmal. even after building a big harem, his confidence barely increased.

some of the bad endings are really brutal xD
Drew's happy ending was kind of wholesome.
and Kevin's and Ophelia's son should have the most massive dick in the whole game as he carries the genes of both families with dicks bigger than MC's xD

I was surprised that Hunter didn't try to teach and team up with MC to have a legacy beyond Drew. We don't know why he helped MC get taller and bigger too if he knew he wanted to get rid of him anyway. was it just for the streaming show ?
MC's harem happened in major part thanks to Hunter's drugs. but now that Hunter is gone, how will MC manage all the girls ? Drew is more experienced and skilled, and she is still around with a bigger/better dick. the competition is tough.

after playing this VN, I will need something super vanilla and wholesome

Hunter actually trained him, until at some point he realized that Sterling is not like Hunter or Drew, Hunter initially showed him how to seduce women and other things, when Sterling returned home, and immediately realized that Sterling was a threat to Hunter and interfered with his plans. after all, this is a confrontation, since Sterling's father lost, then Sterling can protect the family... now the question is, will he keep the harem without Hunter? I think yes, at some point we see all the women’s love for Sterling, since Ophelia already knows who her son is fucking with, this is already a good sign even without Hunter’s drugs.
Hunter just pushed them more into the intimacy that he wanted for himself, and of course Sterling got them, he was in the right place at the right time and prevented debauchery... then it will be interesting what kind of fun awaits us

 

[creeperawmann]

does anyone know if the dev does his animations in blender or daz studio? or maybe a different program?

 

[Supreme Kai]

I really don't like her, and always thought that she's not right in the head, or just a 5 year old mentally. But to be fair, Sterling, Brenna and Ophelia have enabled her behaviour and allowed her to be a spoilt brat. Sterling goes off at Brenna and Lucia for pretty much nothing, yet Catherine R-words him, and he lets it slide. Maybe, they're all just scared of her. LOL.

And then there is bad ending in the game where Catherine went totally nuts and burned them all alive inside the house

 

[dartred]

does anyone know if the dev does his animations in blender or daz studio? or maybe a different program?

He does all his animations on Daz.

 

[moondrake]

Honestly the only thing I have against Eileen is she was planning to rape Catherine to hurt Brenna. But after Brenna rapes Eileen instead, Catherine's comments during the movie make Brenna realize two wrongs don't make a right. She feels guilty enough to make amends with Bathsheba (the hotel clerk), which we'll see in chapter 13. Maybe this'll also pave the way for some kind of reconciliation with Eileen? All of her evil deeds seem motivated by some kind of childhood trauma, so maybe there's a path for redemption.

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Plus, per the (previously leaked) breast size chart wallpaper, Eileen's got the biggest tits in the game! Sterling's gotta get a piece of her!

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But where is Drew in this size chart? Also, still holding out for Sterling to bumble his way into seducing Drew as well.

 

[HiP1]

I'm pretty sure he didn't want to get rid of him at first. At first I think he was trying to train Sterling the same way he trained Drew and just figured he'd come around eventually. He helps Sterling with a few other things as well. I think he only changed his mind after he lost his eye. In what of the what ifs he does train Sterling at the start of the game, so I feel like the only real difference is that Sterling in canon denied the fact he was attracted to his family at first, so Hunter went behind Sterling back to train him.

Hunter actually trained him, until at some point he realized that Sterling is not like Hunter or Drew, Hunter initially showed him how to seduce women and other things, when Sterling returned home, and immediately realized that Sterling was a threat to Hunter and interfered with his plans. after all, this is a confrontation, since Sterling's father lost, then Sterling can protect the family... now the question is, will he keep the harem without Hunter? I think yes, at some point we see all the women’s love for Sterling, since Ophelia already knows who her son is fucking with, this is already a good sign even without Hunter’s drugs.
Hunter just pushed them more into the intimacy that he wanted for himself, and of course Sterling got them, he was in the right place at the right time and prevented debauchery... then it will be interesting what kind of fun awaits us

I don't think Hunter trained MC yet, except indirectly by showing by accident what he is doing, but it didn't stick. he might have wanted to do it after he finished the conquest of the house. and to prepare for that, he used the growth hormone early for an immediate effect, which completely backfired as it made MC more attractive for the drugged up girls while Hunter barely made any progress as MC is a natural with the loving and caring aspect of his legacy. The use of heavier drugs might have marked a complete shift where Hunter decided MC is a threat. Drew had a hard time believing Hunter had to come to that level to overcome MC.
Now that Hunter is gone, it could be interesting if Drew teaches MC actual sex skills. right now, MC has zero skill except just thrusting like a maniac. he is still at a risk that any more experienced lover, Drew for instance, can come and take over by skill and technique alone, just as we can see in all of the bad endings. For example, among all the users of the dark web streaming, at least one or two could piece together who the characters are and where to find them, and come to take everything for themselves.
MC and Drew could share the house and visiting girls, with some exclusive to each, but that would make for some unavoidable NTR and most players wouldn't like it. Honestly, right now, MC alone is not enough to protect the house. He needs Drew at least.

He does all his animations on Daz.

which is quite impressive knowing how bad and unintuitive Daz is

 

[Knighthood]

He said it will have incest

Amber and Caspian 27%

Sterling and Eileen 43%

Hunter and Eileen 30%

Amber and Caspian should have been a bad ending. It was so obvious

 

[HiP1]

But where is Drew in this size chart? Also, still holding out for Sterling to bumble his way into seducing Drew as well.

Drew said he preferred women and has mostly been with women in Tiff's bad ending. so it could be that Drew only was with MC's dad, and Drew was the top in that relationship, it might have only been as revenge for taking away Keira and Nora and breaking up their family.

By the way, Keira, Nora, Drew and Hunter were all consenting adults. David's reaction might have been fueled only by jealousy if he was with his mother before. We don't know if he tried with his own sister too. He might just have been super possessive, even if he tried to rationalize it with him protecting his family. He made Keira and Nora's life worse off afterward, especially financially, and Lucia grew up without knowing who fathered her with all the consequences.

 

[storm1051787]

I don't think Hunter trained MC yet, except indirectly by showing by accident what he is doing, but it didn't stick. he might have wanted to do it after he finished the conquest of the house. and to prepare for that, he used the growth hormone early for an immediate effect, which completely backfired as it made MC more attractive for the drugged up girls while Hunter barely made any progress as MC is a natural with the loving and caring aspect of his legacy. The use of heavier drugs might have marked a complete shift where Hunter decided MC is a threat. Drew had a hard time believing Hunter had to come to that level to overcome MC.
Now that Hunter is gone, it could be interesting if Drew teaches MC actual sex skills. right now, MC has zero skill except just thrusting like a maniac. he is still at a risk that any more experienced lover, Drew for instance, can come and take over by skill and technique alone, just as we can see in all of the bad endings. For example, among all the users of the dark web streaming, at least one or two could piece together who the characters are and where to find them, and come to take everything for themselves.
MC and Drew could share the house and visiting girls, with some exclusive to each, but that would make for some unavoidable NTR and most players wouldn't like it. Honestly, right now, MC alone is not enough to protect the house. He needs Drew at least.



which is quite impressive knowing how bad and unintuitive Daz is

Well we found out from the Dev that Hunter was the one who gave Ophelia the dildo shaped like Sterling's dick, which doesn't make any sense unless he was trying to help Sterling seduce her. I don't think he saw Sterling as a threat at all until he was actively getting injured in these failed attempts. Hunter in the earlier chapters only really seemed to have an issue with the fact that sterling refused to share.

 

[Mr. Chatty]

But where is Drew in this size chart? Also, still holding out for Sterling to bumble his way into seducing Drew as well.

Any news on this? Any possibility? Or confirmation that it would never happen Especially in canon.

 

[dartred]

Any news on this? Any possibility? Or confirmation that it would never happen Especially in canon.

Dev really doesn't need to say that Sterling fucking / getting fucked by a futa/trans isn't going to be canon.

Though there is no confirmation it's going to happen in a bad end either. Not saying that won't happen, but if it does, it will be in a bad end or non-canon choice.

 

[pinkie96]

For example, among all the users of the dark web streaming, at least one or two could piece together who the characters are and where to find them, and come to take everything for themselves.

 

[SuddenReal]

Well we found out from the Dev that Hunter was the one who gave Ophelia the dildo shaped like Sterling's dick, which doesn't make any sense unless he was trying to help Sterling seduce her. I don't think he saw Sterling as a threat at all until he was actively getting injured in these failed attempts. Hunter in the earlier chapters only really seemed to have an issue with the fact that sterling refused to share.

Well, it does make sense since it could be used as blackmail material. If his endgame, Hunter could easily say that it was Sterling who gave her the dildo since it's modelled after his dick ("and here's exhibit D... sorry, that should be a little d..."). And yes, he did start to see Sterling as a threat after he got injured. Earlier on, Hunter saw Sterling as a cuck in waiting, but as time progressed and things got harder, he saw Sterling as a threat. And Hunter never trained Sterling. He offered, but Sterling turned him down since he wasn't interested in both fucking his family and (later) sharing.

Actually, here's food for thought: if it hadn't been Hunter who first showed up, but Drew, would Sterling still be against sharing? Because I feel his unwillingness to share comes first of all of trying to keep Hunter away. We can see a same unwillingness when Derik shows up in Hunter. Instead of reaching out to Derik, Hunter threatens him to keep Derik away. Since Drew was willing to play it fair (and less agressive than Hunter), would Sterling still be so opposed to sharing?

 

[storm1051787]

Well, it does make sense since it could be used as blackmail material. If his endgame, Hunter could easily say that it was Sterling who gave her the dildo since it's modelled after his dick ("and here's exhibit D... sorry, that should be a little d..."). And yes, he did start to see Sterling as a threat after he got injured. Earlier on, Hunter saw Sterling as a cuck in waiting, but as time progressed and things got harder, he saw Sterling as a threat. And Hunter never trained Sterling. He offered, but Sterling turned him down since he wasn't interested in both fucking his family and (later) sharing.

Actually, here's food for thought: if it hadn't been Hunter who first showed up, but Drew, would Sterling still be against sharing? Because I feel his unwillingness to share comes first of all of trying to keep Hunter away. We can see a same unwillingness when Derik shows up in Hunter. Instead of reaching out to Derik, Hunter threatens him to keep Derik away. Since Drew was willing to play it fair (and less agressive than Hunter), would Sterling still be so opposed to sharing?

I can't really think of any ways hunter could use it as black mail material and it wouldn't make sense to get it to Ophelia anonymously if that was the case. And if Hunter was going to use it as blackmail material I can't think of a reason why he didn't. I don't think Hunter ever saw Sterling as a cuck in waiting. It seems obvious to me that Hunter is training Sterling without Sterling knowing otherwise neither the dildo or the growth hormones make anysense. At the start of the game Sterling wouldnt even admit he was attracted to his family and Hunter had to push him in that direction. And the answer to the drew thing is still yes. I don't think it being Drew or Hunter would have made any difference. Sterling still would have been against them trying to fuck his family. I don't think there is anyone who Sterling would be ok with it, even if Hunter wasn't related to him, a rapist or an ugly bastard.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Actually, here's food for thought: if it hadn't been Hunter who first showed up, but Drew, would Sterling still be against sharing? Because I feel his unwillingness to share comes first of all of trying to keep Hunter away. We can see a same unwillingness when Derik shows up in Hunter. Instead of reaching out to Derik, Hunter threatens him to keep Derik away. Since Drew was willing to play it fair (and less agressive than Hunter), would Sterling still be so opposed to sharing?

If Drew had shown up instead of Hunter, I think Drew would've had an easier time seducing the house. Given her natural charms, Drew probably wouldn't have needed any help from drugs. She seems to have high empathy, and authentically cares about others (even as she's trying to sleep with them), which would've made them open up to her the same way they do for Sterling. And given most (all?) of the girls bisexual tendencies, Drew is literally "the best of both worlds" and appeals to their sexual fantasies.

I can imagine a scenario where all the girls would've joined Drew's harem of their own free will, while Sterling remained a scrawny weakling. Having realized that Drew was not evil and all the girls were happy, Sterling would eventually accept the new status quo. At some point, perhaps based on her own view of the Dio Del Sesso tradition, Drew might've encouraged Sterling to have sex with the girls in order to impregnate them (since Drew can't) and pass on the DDS genes. Drew doesn't seem possessive to me, so I think she would've allowed it.

 

[HiP1]

Well we found out from the Dev that Hunter was the one who gave Ophelia the dildo shaped like Sterling's dick, which doesn't make any sense unless he was trying to help Sterling seduce her. I don't think he saw Sterling as a threat at all until he was actively getting injured in these failed attempts. Hunter in the earlier chapters only really seemed to have an issue with the fact that sterling refused to share.

the MC dildo could simply be just a way to prepare Ophelia for bigger dicks too. her husband has a small dick, so her vagina would be used to that size. though she had 3 kids, it's still porn logic and everyone is super tight xD
the growth hormones would be because MC is still family, and the most likely to create descendants as Drew is now sterile. and he could be trained after the house is conquered.

Actually, here's food for thought: if it hadn't been Hunter who first showed up, but Drew, would Sterling still be against sharing? Because I feel his unwillingness to share comes first of all of trying to keep Hunter away. We can see a same unwillingness when Derik shows up in Hunter. Instead of reaching out to Derik, Hunter threatens him to keep Derik away. Since Drew was willing to play it fair (and less agressive than Hunter), would Sterling still be so opposed to sharing?

Drew wouldn't have straight up come out in front of MC and announce the incest and conquest of the house. He would do it at a normal pace, through love and care and deception, behind MC's back. MC wouldn't even know it happened until it was too late. MC felt jealous and protective when Derik came, and he never got a girlfriend before, he never got to experience and deal with jealousy before. He can't deal with sharing with another male at this point. He doesn't seem to mind his girls playing with other girls though.

 

[storm1051787]

the MC dildo could simply be just a way to prepare Ophelia for bigger dicks too. her husband has a small dick, so her vagina would be used to that size. though she had 3 kids, it's still porn logic and everyone is super tight xD
the growth hormones would be because MC is still family, and the most likely to create descendants as Drew is now sterile. and he could be trained after the house is conquered.



Drew wouldn't have straight up come out in front of MC and announce the incest and conquest of the house. He would do it at a normal pace, through love and care and deception, behind MC's back. MC wouldn't even know it happened until it was too late. MC felt jealous and protective when Derik came, and he never got a girlfriend before, he never got to experience and deal with jealousy before. He can't deal with sharing with another male at this point. He doesn't seem to mind his girls playing with other girls though.

If the idea was to prepare Orphelia for biggeer dicks it still doesn't make sense. He could have had one modeled after him or simply bought one and the growth hormones wouldn't be something to get passed down like that. Plus it would be super irrelevant as Hunter could just get t them pregnant

I really can't think of any other logic for Hunter's actions other than he was helping Sterling.

 

[SuddenReal]

I can't really think of any ways hunter could use it as black mail material and it wouldn't make sense to get it to Ophelia anonymously if that was the case. And if Hunter was going to use it as blackmail material I can't think of a reason why he didn't.

Didn't Hunter bring his whole powerpoint presentation on how everything was Sterling's doing? That would have been one of his bullet points.

 

[storm1051787]

Didn't Hunter bring his whole powerpoint presentation on how everything was Sterling's doing? That would have been one of his bullet points.

It wasn't one of the bulletin points though and it happened before Hunter deemed sterling as a threat. If it was actual blackmail he would have used it. There's no real logical explanation other than to get Ophelia more open to the idea of having sex with Sterling.