Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Regretful Thinking]

Here's a poll so we can find out what the real consensus here is. Do you play PV for Vanilla, NTR or both types of content

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I'm also curious what kind of content people would prefer to have in the next game. Personally, I play PV for both types of content, but I'd prefer the second game to be vanilla only. I think, PV is one of those rare games which succesfully feature both NTR and Vanilla content at the same time. Arguably the best game that does it. That said, hardcore NTR and hardcore Vanilla community should never be in the same thread ever again : ).

 

[Kingkoopa97]

the ntr lovers are the minority not the majority there bud, that should be the obvious thought by the fact he said his next game will not have NTR lmao. thinking ntr lovers are in the majority of any games besides games meant specifially for ntr is just ludacris

So I don't know if your thick in the head or not but WWG's paying supporters have always been mostly NTR fans.

feel free to look into it bud I could give a fuck lol

 

[Kingkoopa97]

Here's a poll so we can find out what the real consensus here is. Do you play PV for Vanilla, NTR or both types of content

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Pointless poll, f95 is clearly a vanilla heavy forum but that does not matter in the grand scheme if those people don't cough up the cash.

 

[pinkie96]

Pointless poll, f95 is clearly a vanilla heavy forum but that does not matter in the grand scheme if those people don't cough up the cash.

It's not pointless since I want to see the results here. WWG already did a poll on patreon in the past and the large majority voted to keep the NTR content.

It's interesting to see that there's a big percentage of people here(26% so far) that only like the NTR content. So far it's 45% who like both and 29% vanilla.

 

[Mouseinfo]

It's not pointless since I want to see the results here. WWG already did a poll on patreon in the past and the large majority voted to keep the NTR content.

It's interesting to see that there's a big percentage of people here(26% so far) that only like the NTR content. So far it's 45% who like both and 29% vanilla.

I don't think it matters the number of polls performed or how many times this discussion keeps happening on this thread (or really any F95 thread), the Vanilla only folks will continue to live in the delusion that NTR is not wanted or will continue to believe that the poll must be wrong.

 

[uscmiller22]

We know about Young Hunter as he's been shown in several teasers (linked below). It seems he just shows up like Annabelle did. He acts innocent and reluctant, but the girls are inevitably drawn to his massive dick, at least in "bad ends".
Another Mouth To Feed Or Another Mouth Feeder? - NTR Lite
New Kid On The Block - NTR
Stick A Fork In The Road - NTR
Bridge Over Troubled Milk - NTR; Best/Worst Day - NTR
March Teaser Salad

The running theory about Young Hunter is that he's actually Old Hunter, but he's had his brain transplanted into the body of his clone. He undergoes the operation/recovery during the "time skip" (after which several girls show physical signs of pregnancy e.g. Cath's belly, Ophelia's breasts). Obviously this is a far-fetched concept, but PV has dabbled in questionable medical concepts before, and there's one image from New Kid On The Block NTR Teasers that appears to show surgical scars from the operation, see below.

Spoiler: Young Hunter scar

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Really curious to see how this is implemented in any way that makes sense. Even a game as goofy and far fetched as PV, figuring out someone has been drugging you, attempting to rape you, selling your sex tapes online, etc. etc. then immediately letting a younger cloned version of him in your life is insanity. Maybe it will be based on a lie that it isn't actually him and is a relative or something, but come on, his own daughters won't recognize a younger version of their dad?

 

[pinkie96]

Really curious to see how this is implemented in any way that makes sense. Even a game as goofy and far fetched as PV, figuring out someone has been drugging you, attempting to rape you, selling your sex tapes online, etc. etc. then immediately letting a younger cloned version of him in your life is insanity. Maybe it will be based on a lie that it isn't actually him and is a relative or something, but come on, his own daughters won't recognize a younger version of their dad?

Head transplants are possible today so a brain transplant isn't so far fetched. The daughters wouldn't recognize him as decades before he even met their mother he was horribly scarred by pox all over his skin.

He'll probably pose as a bastard of his own.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Really curious to see how this is implemented in any way that makes sense. Even a game as goofy and far fetched as PV, figuring out someone has been drugging you, attempting to rape you, selling your sex tapes online, etc. etc. then immediately letting a younger cloned version of him in your life is insanity. Maybe it will be based on a lie that it isn't actually him and is a relative or something, but come on, his own daughters won't recognize a younger version of their dad?

At the end of Chapter 12, remember how Ophelia and her sisters recognized Annabelle as a younger version of their mother, and wanted her to stay so they could explore that? It'll probably go the same way with Hunter, except he'll just pretend to be an innocent clone, when secretly he's the same old Hunter inside.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

He'll probably pose as a bastard of his own.

That's an interesting possibility, and probably an easy story to sell the family, considering Hunter's reputation. If he claims to have been conceived right after Annabelle died in 2002, that would put him around 17 when the main story takes place (in 2019).

 

[AlwaysJustM]

Lots of whining about people who don't like NTR, you may not notice it with the cuck brain rot, but this is one of the best incest games around, which some people may miss out on.

There was top incest mom's and I don't even think I saw Ophelia in the list, she should be in the top 5 easy.

NTR and cuck is a bit different. Even in the vanilla scenes all the "don't you like my huge dick more than Dad's" is technically NTR and is pretty much the most common alpha male fantasy that permeates almost all porn where it's just that much better knowing you're ruining some other man's life by taking their girlfriend or wife and pushing them towards suicide with their small penis.

Cuck is more in line with NTS I would guess, where the person is actually enjoying watching and is edged more than pushed towards the edge of their roof.

But, yeah the "tell me I'm better than -------" is one of the most popular tropes. I doubt the people that enjoy NTR are actually identifying or self-inserting with the one being NTR'd. That would be more humiliation/sub porn.

 

[Gwimmly]

Here's a poll so we can find out what the real consensus here is. Do you play PV for Vanilla, NTR or both types of content

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Good to know there are others like me out there who enjoy both

 

[RX-9/C]

Good to know there are others like me out there who enjoy both

All I see is you get more content for what you pay, why would you subject to getting less content with same price.

 

[RX-9/C]

It's not pointless since I want to see the results here. WWG already did a poll on patreon in the past and the large majority voted to keep the NTR content.

It's interesting to see that there's a big percentage of people here(26% so far) that only like the NTR content. So far it's 45% who like both and 29% vanilla.

Also seems like the tide is changing

 

[KiraMantis]

It's not pointless since I want to see the results here. WWG already did a poll on patreon in the past and the large majority voted to keep the NTR content.

It's interesting to see that there's a big percentage of people here(26% so far) that only like the NTR content. So far it's 45% who like both and 29% vanilla.

Now its 30% vanilla and 30% ntr. lol
I personally like both. But if this game didn't have NTR I would of never looked into it. I don't get why people get so upset about ntr. I have a feeling that they self insert in a porn game lol.

 

[Gwimmly]

All I see is you get more content for what you pay, why would you subject to getting less content with same price.

That's not how the non-ntr bros see it

 

[Mouseinfo]

Now its 30% vanilla and 30% ntr. lol
I personally like both. But if this game didn't have NTR I would of never looked into it. I don't get why people get so upset about ntr. I have a feeling that they self insert in a porn game lol.

I think you're 100% correct.

 

[Gwimmly]

Now its 30% vanilla and 30% ntr. lol
I personally like both. But if this game didn't have NTR I would of never looked into it. I don't get why people get so upset about ntr. I have a feeling that they self insert in a porn game lol.

I definitely have never changed the male MC's name in every game i play...definitely

 

[DoDoDoDODO316]

All I see is you get more content for what you pay, why would you subject to getting less content with same price.

That's not how the non-ntr bros see it

Now its 30% vanilla and 30% ntr. lol
I personally like both. But if this game didn't have NTR I would of never looked into it. I don't get why people get so upset about ntr. I have a feeling that they self insert in a porn game lol.

I definitely have never changed the male MC's name in every game i play...definitely

I used to be so anti-NTR I may or may not have gotten multiple warnings on another account for rage-baiting NTR fans into tirades and responding with my own among other similarly misdirected shenanigans. Definitely some self-inserting going on(No subtext), which I generally think is the purpose of any form of story-telling to a point and porn games to an even more extreme degree-given the high levels of escapism and power-fantasies they typically aim for. The only medium that really rivals that RN is Manhuas and I'd argue they go even further than most porn games but I digress-the point is they fill a need and the need they fill is more repressed/judged by society than many if not any others so it makes sense that those without awareness who're trying to fill that need would lash out at anything they perceive as threatening it and that effect compounds and snowballs with forums like this till you have people on both sides who won't or can't see their own complexes/biases at play and they start fighting endlessly without realizing they're basically filling the same need just with apparently diametrically opposed ways of fulfilling it.

Anyway once I dealt with my bullshit and acknowledged my bias I was able to see things more evenly and now I might not necessarily play ntr games/paths the way I do other games I do still play them occasionally and just change the way I insert myself into them(Again no subtext) since avoiding insertion entirely is impossible-much like living in Sterling/Hunter's house-and I certainly no longer see the point in trying to judge people who like it or drag a game just because it has NTR unless it's totally unavoidable/unexpected and/or ruins the vibe of the game which I think is a reasonable distinction to make for any type of media.
In summation of my TED talk on tolerance of fetishes/preferences in porn games;

 

[Gwimmly]

I used to be so anti-NTR I may or may not have gotten multiple warnings on another account for rage-baiting NTR fans into tirades and responding with my own among other similarly misdirected shenanigans. Definitely some self-inserting going on(No subtext), which I generally think is the purpose of any form or story-telling to a point and porn games to an even more extreme degree-given the high levels of escapism and power-fantasies they typically aim for. The only medium that really rivals that RN is Manhuas and I'd argue they go even further than most porn games but I digress-the point is they fill a need and the need they fill is more repressed/judged by society than many if not any others so it makes sense that those without awareness who're trying to fill that need would lash out at anything they perceive as threatening it and that effect compounds and snowballs with forums like this till you have people on both sides who won't or can't see their own complexes/biases at play and they start fighting endlessly without realizing they're basically filling the same need just with apparently diametrically opposed ways of filling it.
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Anyway once I dealt with my bullshit and acknowledged my bias I was able to see things more evenly and now I might not necessarily play ntr games/paths the way I do other games I do still play them occasionally and just change the way I insert myself into them(Again no subtext) since avoiding insertion entirely is impossible-much like living in Sterling/Hunter's house-and I certainly no longer see the point in trying to judge people who like it or drag a game just because it has NTR unless it's totally unavoidable/unexpected and/or ruins the vibe of the game which I think is a reasonable distinction to make for any type of media.
In summation of my TED talk on tolerance of fetishes/preferences in porn games;
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Yeah i get you i think a lot of NTR enjoyers are reluctant to discuss where their satisfaction derives from when playing ntr games even on an anonymous forum site in fear of being labeled the infamous "C" word lol. I think a lot of that comes down to the ability to separate fiction from reality. Just because one enjoys a taboo element found in a porn game does not mean they yearn for or that they promote such things in real life, where you have to deal and take into account, not only your own, but other's REAL emotions and feelings. Also i would like to add that those who criticize others for having a certain "fetish/kink" are a very small minority in my experience. But apart from the whole fetish shaming aspect i think nowadays the animosity shared between NTR and non-ntr enjoyers just comes down to a simple issue of how the developer allocates their time when creating the game. You see half saying he should spend more time making canon-vanilla harem content and another half asking for more what-ifs/ntr content and then you got us over here who want it all

 

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I highly doubt that People who Vote Vanilla think like there Vanilla type but in reality it is both ALPHA/BETA types and think no NTR type within them but in truth their are feeling Mighty when they see someone Cucked, Stolen and Submissive from there other partner its like they really like to be the one who is powered from the NTR(not the cucked one but the Alpha male) to feel pleasure by seeing someone suffering from heart broken or feeling dejected thats how I see when playing NTR games is it

Spoiler: term called

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