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Now its 30% vanilla and 30% ntr. lol
I personally like both. But if this game didn't have NTR I would of never looked into it. I don't get why people get so upset about ntr. I have a feeling that they self insert in a porn game lol.
I think you're 100% correct.
 

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All I see is you get more content for what you pay, why would you subject to getting less content with same price.
That's not how the non-ntr bros see it :HideThePain:
Now its 30% vanilla and 30% ntr. lol
I personally like both. But if this game didn't have NTR I would of never looked into it. I don't get why people get so upset about ntr. I have a feeling that they self insert in a porn game lol.
I definitely have never changed the male MC's name in every game i play...definitely :HideThePain:
I used to be so anti-NTR I may or may not have gotten multiple warnings on another account for rage-baiting NTR fans into tirades and responding with my own among other similarly misdirected shenanigans. Definitely some self-inserting going on(No subtext), which I generally think is the purpose of any form of story-telling to a point and porn games to an even more extreme degree-given the high levels of escapism and power-fantasies they typically aim for. The only medium that really rivals that RN is Manhuas and I'd argue they go even further than most porn games but I digress-the point is they fill a need and the need they fill is more repressed/judged by society than many if not any others so it makes sense that those without awareness who're trying to fill that need would lash out at anything they perceive as threatening it and that effect compounds and snowballs with forums like this till you have people on both sides who won't or can't see their own complexes/biases at play and they start fighting endlessly without realizing they're basically filling the same need just with apparently diametrically opposed ways of fulfilling it.
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Anyway once I dealt with my bullshit and acknowledged my bias I was able to see things more evenly and now I might not necessarily play ntr games/paths the way I do other games I do still play them occasionally and just change the way I insert myself into them(Again no subtext) since avoiding insertion entirely is impossible-much like living in Sterling/Hunter's house-and I certainly no longer see the point in trying to judge people who like it or drag a game just because it has NTR unless it's totally unavoidable/unexpected and/or ruins the vibe of the game which I think is a reasonable distinction to make for any type of media.
In summation of my TED talk on tolerance of fetishes/preferences in porn games;
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I used to be so anti-NTR I may or may not have gotten multiple warnings on another account for rage-baiting NTR fans into tirades and responding with my own among other similarly misdirected shenanigans. Definitely some self-inserting going on(No subtext), which I generally think is the purpose of any form or story-telling to a point and porn games to an even more extreme degree-given the high levels of escapism and power-fantasies they typically aim for. The only medium that really rivals that RN is Manhuas and I'd argue they go even further than most porn games but I digress-the point is they fill a need and the need they fill is more repressed/judged by society than many if not any others so it makes sense that those without awareness who're trying to fill that need would lash out at anything they perceive as threatening it and that effect compounds and snowballs with forums like this till you have people on both sides who won't or can't see their own complexes/biases at play and they start fighting endlessly without realizing they're basically filling the same need just with apparently diametrically opposed ways of filling it.
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Anyway once I dealt with my bullshit and acknowledged my bias I was able to see things more evenly and now I might not necessarily play ntr games/paths the way I do other games I do still play them occasionally and just change the way I insert myself into them(Again no subtext) since avoiding insertion entirely is impossible-much like living in Sterling/Hunter's house-and I certainly no longer see the point in trying to judge people who like it or drag a game just because it has NTR unless it's totally unavoidable/unexpected and/or ruins the vibe of the game which I think is a reasonable distinction to make for any type of media.
In summation of my TED talk on tolerance of fetishes/preferences in porn games;
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Yeah i get you i think a lot of NTR enjoyers are reluctant to discuss where their satisfaction derives from when playing ntr games even on an anonymous forum site in fear of being labeled the infamous "C" word lol. I think a lot of that comes down to the ability to separate fiction from reality. Just because one enjoys a taboo element found in a porn game does not mean they yearn for or that they promote such things in real life, where you have to deal and take into account, not only your own, but other's REAL emotions and feelings. Also i would like to add that those who criticize others for having a certain "fetish/kink" are a very small minority in my experience. But apart from the whole fetish shaming aspect i think nowadays the animosity shared between NTR and non-ntr enjoyers just comes down to a simple issue of how the developer allocates their time when creating the game. You see half saying he should spend more time making canon-vanilla harem content and another half asking for more what-ifs/ntr content and then you got us over here who want it all :KEK:
 

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I highly doubt that People who Vote Vanilla think like there Vanilla type but in reality it is both ALPHA/BETA types and think no NTR type within them but in truth their are feeling Mighty when they see someone Cucked, Stolen and Submissive from there other partner its like they really like to be the one who is powered from the NTR(not the cucked one but the Alpha male) to feel pleasure by seeing someone suffering from heart broken or feeling dejected thats how I see when playing NTR games :BootyTime: is it
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All I see is you get more content for what you pay, why would you subject to getting less content with same price.
true, that's what I said earlier as well. NON-NTR enjoyers are getting less content that they're paying for. If I'm paying for something and certain development time is going towards creating content which I don't like then it wouldn't make sense to support it.
Also, if WWG is saying that the next game won't have NTR; so vanilla/non-ntr fans won't support it, then it's false.
If he finishes this game, I will definitely sub for his next game, I dropped sub post chapter 10 because of story & sex scenes issues. I may sub earlier as well when he starts developing the vanilla epilogues.
 

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Has the Dev release any update on the next chapter of the game yet? I know he’s probably got other things important as well but I honestly thought the game would be done by now
 
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No, you didn't... Don't try twisting someone else's words to suit your own arguments.

The context of what he was saying is the polar opposite to what you've written.
I've said it previously as well, why would I pay for content that I don't like -- https://f95zone.to/threads/power-vacuum-ch-12-official-what-why-games.36240/post-16155099. [read the last sentence in the post I made].

I'm not twisting anyone's words.

edit: check this as well - https://f95zone.to/threads/power-vacuum-ch-12-official-what-why-games.36240/post-15184741
 
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I've said it previously as well
Neither of the posts you link even remotely show you saying "you get more content for what you pay".

I'm not twisting anyone's words.
If you're genuinely not twisting his words, then you didn't understand what was said. It is not the same as your oft repeated "Vanilla only fans don't get as much content". What he says supports the "I like both" option.
 

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Neither of the posts you link even remotely show you saying "you get more content for what you pay".
I'm not sure you read what I quoted and you're dismissing stuff, I said it clearly why would I pay for content that I don't like. I simply said that we to have to wait for more time for update to release because there is dev time being taken to create content that I don't like in the game [which is also not cannon], both the posts show that.

If you still think otherwise, then take care.
 

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The main audience here and the supporters on Patreon are still majority ntr fans, I hardly see any vanilla faces here, the tiny few that are here, mostly cry about how WWG focus more on ntr and I sure as hell know that he is trying hard to appeas his majority ntr fan base on Patreon.
So the vanilla guys are the minority , ironic
It's not ironic it's always has been the case, non ntr players mostly don't play avoidable/unavoidable ntr games. This is the last avoidable ntr game that I ever played.
 

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Yeah i get you i think a lot of NTR enjoyers are reluctant to discuss where their satisfaction derives from when playing ntr games even on an anonymous forum site in fear of being labeled the infamous "C" word lol. I think a lot of that comes down to the ability to separate fiction from reality. Just because one enjoys a taboo element found in a porn game does not mean they yearn for or that they promote such things in real life, where you have to deal and take into account, not only your own, but other's REAL emotions and feelings. Also i would like to add that those who criticize others for having a certain "fetish/kink" are a very small minority in my experience. But apart from the whole fetish shaming aspect i think nowadays the animosity shared between NTR and non-ntr enjoyers just comes down to a simple issue of how the developer allocates their time when creating the game. You see half saying he should spend more time making canon-vanilla harem content and another half asking for more what-ifs/ntr content and then you got us over here who want it all :KEK:
Really, isn't NTS more of the pleasure of watching? NTR I think is the opposite where you enjoy seeing someone get screwed over. It rarely seems to include the 'infamous "C" word' as the person getting NTR'd is not into it. I really do not think it's uncommon. It's the theme to 99% of rap music (taking someone's girl and ruining them for 'normal' men :HideThePain:). It's definitely not a closet fetish.

I think a lot of the contrast for vanilla enjoyers might come in that NTR often includes non-consensual elements that are far more uncomfortable to most and seem to devalue or demean the girls involved. I really can't imagine how someone enjoys identifying with someone being NTR'd. NTR is, by definition, 'unwanted'. That's just self-loathing which goes beyond a sex kink I would think.

NTR content is just liking watching it happen to someone else which really isn't any different than a lot of power trip entertainment like combat sports and violent games where you play the bad guy. I thought that was even the word play with "Power Vacuum". Also meaning someone wanting to suck up all the power, which is a very common fantasy.
 
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All I see is you get more content for what you pay, why would you subject to getting less content with same price.
I really just follow the art and general story/personalities. The chance of getting art you like, character designs you like, an MC you like, and specific kinks to your flavor in a game that updates more than twice a decade is so slim I can't imagine how people get away with being so picky.

Art and characters take priority and I usually mental gymnastics everything else I need much like real sex. :KEK:
 
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