VN Ren'Py Powers That Be [Ch. 24 - Styling] [Burst Out Games]

[Matoyoshi]

thats what the patch is for on the op

I generally play through the game as intended by the developer before using any kind of patch or mod, but that may change with this one.

 

[MrFriendly]

I think that what players like MrFriendly (whose comments in other threads I have found quite insightful) are missing is that Tilly (usually) has no control over her powers. The antipathy such players are expressing towards her (apart from the forced relationship) is based on the (false) assumption that Tilly is deliberately trying to manipulate the MC with her power, whereas it has been shown many times that she hates her ability. There are only two times in the game when she definitively makes a deliberate effort to use her power and both times are a direct result of a player choice. The first time is when she calms down the irate coffee shop customer (IF the player chooses that option) and the second when she would have tried to 'avada kadavra' Valerie during their argument, which is interrupted by the phonecall about her parents death. But again this second attempt ONLY occurs if the player explicitly makes the choice to encourage her to use her powers to strike back at her tormentors (the evil route) and does not happen if the player chooses to encourage Tilly to use her powers for good (as with helping out the beleaguered barista - the good route) or not use her powers at all (the neutral route). In my opinion, the ONLY time Tilly has been anything less than the sweet girl MC thinks of her was when MC's flirtation with Nika caused her to become jealous and she snapped at MC to come choose clothes with her (and again the migraine she inflicted on MC was unintentional, as with when she did the same to the group of unkind school kids who called her fat - a reflection of her own emotional state). Even the time she knocked Valerie out during the futsal match was not deliberate and a previously unknown aspect of her power triggered by Tilly's fear (and frankly I myself, also a very sub-par athlete, would be shitting myself if I had to face the, possibly superhuman, ferocity of Valerie's special 'hurricane kick'). When I read how some players think that Tilly is deliberately coercing MC with her ability I kind of hope that an early theory I had - that MC was actually immune to her power due to his health powers and his feelings for her all genuinely coming from himself - was true.
I also think that it is fairly obvious that the smiling or crying that Tilly does at the end of the update is her picking up on Valerie's emotional state after the washing machine incident - she smiles because her empathy knows Valerie is happy (that her beloved dad fucked her) or cries because Valerie is heartbroken (if he rejects her). I mean that is her power - empathy not telepathy or clairvoyance. Since I feel that many players are misunderstanding her power I would beseech Burst Out Games to offer some clarification on this issue, if doing so would not spoiler the story.

Not something I really missed though I do tend to ignore the idea that she isn't in control (since I don't like her)...But that's still a valid point. However, I am really unsure we know exactly when she is in control and when she isn't. We KNOW there are two times where she uses her power with the encouragement of the MC but that doesn't necessarily mean that she has NEVER controlled her power before those times. We are supposed to trust her when she says she hasn't but the player has nothing to base that trust on (and plenty of reason not to trust her). The relationship of the MC to his niece is fully established but we enter into it knowing nothing about her besides what we learn as the story develops.

In addition my overall dislike of Tilly is more because I am not a fan of "forced" sexual/romantic relationships in games. At bare minimum I want to be able to choose who the MC fucks. The scene with Valerie catching the MC and Tilly in bed could have been accomplished without sex taking place, the Developer could have given the player the choice to sleep with Tilly instead of fucking her. It would have resulted in the same jealous reaction from Valerie and allowed the relationship with Tilly to grow before having sex. Instead the sex is rushed, the player doesn't know Tilly at all, has no reason to want the MC to fuck her (except for it being a porn game) as there is no emotional connection. If Tilly's power is purely empathic and she can't control people then her desire for love and intimacy with the MC wouldn't necessarily need to translate to sex and fucking, of course since this is a porn game it does, but IMO the MC should be able to choose to resist her as he does at other times (if he does). (Developers need to stop thinking that every update requires a sex scene, if you are telling a story tell it and have the scenes be more natural - the one with the daughter this update is the most setup ever).

In regards to Tilly's jealousy and lashing out at the MC without control - that would imply that she would also be more likely to lash out when she comes back and realizes that Valerie fucked the MC. Why would her jealousy over Valerie/all women (which we see throughout the game) suddenly be gone or replaced with an acceptance of the situation? In addition if Tilly can feel/sense Valerie's emotions from that distance it implies that the MC and others are never free of her influence. That her emotions should be felt by the MC and Valerie just as she is feeling Valerie's emotions. So why would the MC be able to tell Valerie that having sex with Tilly was a mistake? Have her feelings changed and weakened? Is he able to resist her more now?

This is the problem with superpowers, how does Tilly KNOW that she is feeling Valerie's emotions and not those of the Vice Principal down the hall having a really taking a really good or bad shit? Is she somehow "bonded" to the other characters? Then how is it that her emotions aren't influencing them? Would Valerie even be sexually interested in her father if not for the fact that Tilly has been in their lives?

Anyway, I like the story of the game even if I don't necessarily want to fuck any of the women who have been available... The blonde Russian is of more interest to me but considering that got the MC an intellect whipping I am guessing it will be a bit before/if that will happen.

 

[Bailz]

Not something I really missed though I do tend to ignore the idea that she isn't in control (since I don't like her)...But that's still a valid point. However, I am really unsure we know exactly when she is in control and when she isn't. We KNOW there are two times where she uses her power with the encouragement of the MC but that doesn't necessarily mean that she has NEVER controlled her power before those times. We are supposed to trust her when she says she hasn't but the player has nothing to base that trust on (and plenty of reason not to trust her). The relationship of the MC to his niece is fully established but we enter into it knowing nothing about her besides what we learn as the story develops.

In addition my overall dislike of Tilly is more because I am not a fan of "forced" sexual/romantic relationships in games. At bare minimum I want to be able to choose who the MC fucks. The scene with Valerie catching the MC and Tilly in bed could have been accomplished without sex taking place, the Developer could have given the player the choice to sleep with Tilly instead of fucking her. It would have resulted in the same jealous reaction from Valerie and allowed the relationship with Tilly to grow before having sex. Instead the sex is rushed, the player doesn't know Tilly at all, has no reason to want the MC to fuck her (except for it being a porn game) as there is no emotional connection. If Tilly's power is purely empathic and she can't control people then her desire for love and intimacy with the MC wouldn't necessarily need to translate to sex and fucking, of course since this is a porn game it does, but IMO the MC should be able to choose to resist her as he does at other times (if he does). (Developers need to stop thinking that every update requires a sex scene, if you are telling a story tell it and have the scenes be more natural - the one with the daughter this update is the most setup ever).

In regards to Tilly's jealousy and lashing out at the MC without control - that would imply that she would also be more likely to lash out when she comes back and realizes that Valerie fucked the MC. Why would her jealousy over Valerie/all women (which we see throughout the game) suddenly be gone or replaced with an acceptance of the situation? In addition if Tilly can feel/sense Valerie's emotions from that distance it implies that the MC and others are never free of her influence. That her emotions should be felt by the MC and Valerie just as she is feeling Valerie's emotions. So why would the MC be able to tell Valerie that having sex with Tilly was a mistake? Have her feelings changed and weakened? Is he able to resist her more now?

This is the problem with superpowers, how does Tilly KNOW that she is feeling Valerie's emotions and not those of the Vice Principal down the hall having a really taking a really good or bad shit? Is she somehow "bonded" to the other characters? Then how is it that her emotions aren't influencing them? Would Valerie even be sexually interested in her father if not for the fact that Tilly has been in their lives?

Anyway, I like the story of the game even if I don't necessarily want to fuck any of the women who have been available... The blonde Russian is of more interest to me but considering that got the MC an intellect whipping I am guessing it will be a bit before/if that will happen.

im more interested in the boss but agree with everything else Tilly just comes across as a bit creepy with her powers, how are we supposed to trust her when she can control us, and the forced sex with her was annoying when we got to reject everyone else

 

[arms99]

Wow, what an update . I remember seeing the washing machine preview and thinking it's just a tease I'm sure nothing is going to happen, but boy was I wrong. That scene was just perfect, I couldn't have imagined it any better. This update was the highlight of the month for me. Keep up the great work dev

 

[tazlucky09]

Burst Out Games
just wanted to let u kno theres little mistakes in ch9

Line #349, it shows the daughter saying it not the MC lol
Line #476, "You’re even shipping with her!" .... "shopping"

side notes:
love the choice of French words lol
omelette with chesse, the little death, holy fucking shit
the new pic(s) on the OP kinda gave away the "who will i fuck in this update?" suspense

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[Bubbehc]

I'm starting to think this is going to be a harem game but doesn't have the label...

In my canon playthrough I rejected the ex-wife and the daughter out of fear that Tilly would be mad and I am worried about how she is going to react, however at the end of the update it cuts to the niece in class and she starts to cry. For my non-canon playthrough that I just did I accepted the ex-wife and fucked the daughter and when it cuts to the niece she is smiling. SO if she is suddenly now happy that the MC is fucking other people that goes completely against how she felt in previous updates. Previously even looking at someone else caused her to mind rape the MC, she used her powers to calm the daughter down about the fact that she caught them in bed together... So which is it? Does she want the MC to fuck around or be hers exclusively? In both of these playthroughs when asked I told Valerie that fucking the niece was a mistake.

If you watch the coffeshopp art again you see her thinking(whispering iirc) that she want them three to be together. Like she wants Val back as sister and see the only way is to share MC. Just my thoughts, also think she will let Nika in later as she will want her around too. Just a reflection of how she d nott get mad at skateboarding scene.

 

[KingWeWuz]

As nice as my experience so far with the game was, is it still a legit popculture meme hellscape?

Quoting this post to ask again since new version.

 

[tazlucky09]

Quoting this post to ask again since new version.

CH9 has very little slang words, it does still say some but not even close to the first...like 5 CHs

 

[NateGrey]

Powers That Be Chapter 9 - Supporting (v0.38), public release

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We worked hard to deliver episodes every couple of weeks and now we will take a small holiday break until the the new year. However, we still have some holiday surprises for our Patrons...

OK, first of all: the "girl 'stuck' in washing machine/window/under the bed" thing is one of the most used porn cliches.

Second: as it turns out, it's a cliche for a reason! That pic ensured I couldn't download the update fast enough! Excellent scene with awesome hot dirty talk, keep it up!

 

[Qmil679]

I forgot if it was explained exactly in the game, but did the ex-wife or MC tell why ex-wife cheated?
I know she cheated a few times. But I forgot whether it was explained why.
It will probably be that MC did not have time for her. Typical.

 

[Deleted member 2030943]

I forgot if it was explained exactly in the game, but did the ex-wife or MC tell why ex-wife cheated?
I know she cheated a few times. But I forgot whether it was explained why.
It will probably be that MC did not have time for her. Typical.

Yes,

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[Qmil679]

Yes,

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But she was not holy either for sure. As I know, she cheated a couple of times, so she liked to cheat.
The MC knew about the first cheating, yet she still cheated afterward.

 

[Bailz]

But she was not holy either for sure. As I know, she cheated a couple of times, so she liked to cheat.
The MC knew about the first cheating, yet she still cheated afterward.

its in this update the talk and its a laughably bad excuse

 

[Bubbehc]

I forgot if it was explained exactly in the game, but did the ex-wife or MC tell why ex-wife cheated?
I know she cheated a few times. But I forgot whether it was explained why.
It will probably be that MC did not have time for her. Typical.

That is exactly why she did it and you can of course tell her to f off like any sane man would but I am going to lewd her in the beta play through since I love them thicc... just wonder how Val will take that though :-o

 

[Qmil679]

That is exactly why she did it and you can of course tell her to f off like any sane man would but I am going to lewd her in the beta play through since I love them thicc... just wonder how Val will take that though :-o

its in this update the talk and its a laughably bad excuse

So in that talk with MC and explaining why she did it, she said that MC was neglecting her and didn't have time for her? only that? even when she cheated again, did she have the same excuse? Pff, haha I have no words.

 

[Bailz]

So in that talk with MC and explaining why she did it, she said that MC was neglecting her and didn't have time for her? only that? even when she cheated again, did she have the same excuse? Pff, haha I have no words.

she also said she didn't like to cheat but had no other choice because they showed her a bit of attention

 

[Zephea]

she also said she didn't like to cheat but had no other choice because they showed her a bit of attention

Then I guess a date would be in order - nice dinner, a chat and then just leave without her. :>)
Turn about is fair play and cheaters do not get another chance, esp not twice.

 

[Qmil679]

she also said she didn't like to cheat but had no other choice because they showed her a bit of attention

Haha, even worse. Stupid excuse. If she cared, she would talk to the MC and explain the situation. They would have solved it for sure. But no, it's better to cheat. How I hate it when women cheat..

 

[Zephea]

Haha, even worse. Stupid excuse. If she cared, she would talk to the MC and explain the situation. They would have solved it for sure. But no, it's better to cheat. How I hate it when women cheat..

Trust me - it's no better when men do it... we can be all be scum - equal rights and all that stuff.

 

[Qmil679]

Trust me - it's no better when men do it... we can be all be scum - equal rights and all that stuff.

I know, unfortunately. But there is always a choice whether to cheat or not.