I was following your game and really enjoying it until I read this post. I love harem games but despise bi-sexual LI's. A harem where the girls are fucking each other is no longer a harem but a Polyamory instead. All the creators I sub to make all bi-sexual and lesbian content optional and give you a choice between the two. They understand that women don't magically change their sexual orientation and that not everyone has a lesbian fetish (It is actually a real turnoff for me). I had a lot of respect for you because you were producing such a wonderful and romantic game. The fact that you are forcing bi-sexual Li's on me in order to have a harem ruins the game for me. It is your game and your choice but as someone who loved your art I would remiss in not communicating this to you.Harem will have lesbian content, other routes will be optional lesbian content. For this story, the harem route won't make sense without lesbian content.
IKR? One day you're just trying to get a slice for lunch, then you suddenly have ten hot 2D waifus trying to do sex with you.
But actually, I don't like harem content where the MC hasn't earned anyone's affection. It's just weird when the MC either gets a harem for no reason at all or when they get a harem for totally ridiculous reasons.
i kinda feel the same way but at same time see the devs point about not wanting to have a character have different personalities.I was following your game and really enjoying it until I read this post. I love harem games but despise bi-sexual LI's. A harem where the girls are fucking each other is no longer a harem but a Polyamory instead. All the creators I sub to make all bi-sexual and lesbian content optional and give you a choice between the two. They understand that women don't magically change their sexual orientation and that not everyone has a lesbian fetish (It is actually a real turnoff for me). I had a lot of respect for you because you were producing such a wonderful and romantic game. The fact that you are forcing bi-sexual Li's on me in order to have a harem ruins the game for me. It is your game and your choice but as someone who loved your art I would remiss in not communicating this to you.
Earlier you had said this which I was fine with
In the relatively distant future, the other two member of the optional harem will also be interested in one another (can't say more than that for spoiler reasons), so...Technically a poly harem? There will be optional lesbian content within the optional harem. There will also be optional lesbian content (between those characters and not involving the MC, Maria, or Emilia) if you don't do the harem content. Lots of options, but almost all of them are in the distant future. At least for a while still, this story is very focused on MC and Maria, with a secondary (but not insignificant) focus on Emilia and her dynamics with both of them.
When you changed it so that it was no longer optional you lost me.
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What you are saying makes a lot more sense than what I have been reading in the forums. I just reread everything to get clarity and I still am not sure. If I can have Maria and Emelia without Bi-sexual or Lesbian content then I am interested again. The way the creator was saying things made it very confusing. He says that on the single path Lesbian is optional but on the harem path it is not which makes it sound like he turns Maria and Emilia Bi-sexual which would ruin them as Li's for me. I am now reading about two other girls being the cause. Since being with only two women is technically polygamy and a third is required to make a harem this is making me work really hard to it figure out.i kinda feel the same way but at same time see the devs point about not wanting to have a character have different personalities.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
I never really understood people who both like harem and have intense dislike for anything even close to lesbian love/sex. I am not trying to disparage you or your preferences. But if you dislike lesbian love/sex so much the natural thing would be to be in a monogamous relationship, no? It really feels alien to me to forbid some combinations of members having sex in a polygamous relationship. Not to mention the possible jealousy and resentment it would spark.What you are saying makes a lot more sense than what I have been reading in the forums. I just reread everything to get clarity and I still am not sure. If I can have Maria and Emelia without Bi-sexual or Lesbian content then I am interested again. The way the creator was saying things made it very confusing. He says that on the single path Lesbian is optional but on the harem path it is not which makes it sound like he turns Maria and Emilia Bi-sexual which would ruin them as Li's for me. I am now reading about two other girls being the cause. Since being with only two women is technically polygamy and a third is required to make a harem this is making me work really hard to it figure out.
I actually love the story so far and I want to believe you. The reason I dove into this whole rabbit-hole is because I was considering subbing to the creator and I have been burned so many times with creators turning my LI's bi-sexual out of nowhere that I always make sure first. I now feel hopeful thanks to you. I know a lot of creators are afraid of spoilers but all he had to say was what you said and I would have been happy.
I am putting it back on the menu and checking it out this weekend. Thank you my friend. Normally when I communicate these things I get a lot of hate and bile from people with a lesbian fetish who take it as a personal attack.
im not a fan of lesbians/bi Li in male mc games either so ik usually people make it seem like its the craziest thing ever that some people arent into lesbiansWhat you are saying makes a lot more sense than what I have been reading in the forums. I just reread everything to get clarity and I still am not sure. If I can have Maria and Emelia without Bi-sexual or Lesbian content then I am interested again. The way the creator was saying things made it very confusing. He says that on the single path Lesbian is optional but on the harem path it is not which makes it sound like he turns Maria and Emilia Bi-sexual which would ruin them as Li's for me. I am now reading about two other girls being the cause. Since being with only two women is technically polygamy and a third is required to make a harem this is making me work really hard to it figure out.
I actually love the story so far and I want to believe you. The reason I dove into this whole rabbit-hole is because I was considering subbing to the creator and I have been burned so many times with creators turning my LI's bi-sexual out of nowhere that I always make sure first. I now feel hopeful thanks to you. I know a lot of creators are afraid of spoilers but all he had to say was what you said and I would have been happy.
I am putting it back on the menu and checking it out this weekend. Thank you my friend. Normally when I communicate these things I get a lot of hate and bile from people with a lesbian fetish who take it as a personal attack.
I didn't say anything about disliking lesbians being crazy. I said that wanting MC having multiple women and at the same time forbidding them from having relationships with each other is weird. If you stay monogamous there won't be any risk of any lesbian action.im not a fan of lesbians/bi Li in male mc games either so ik usually people make it seem like its the craziest thing ever that some people arent into lesbians
wasnt saying you did was saying from other threads i have gotten that response. and as far as liking harem but not when the LI's are bisexual there are a few reasonsI didn't say anything about disliking lesbians being crazy. I said that wanting MC having multiple women and at the same time forbidding them from having relationships with each other is weird. If you stay monogamous there won't be any risk of any lesbian action.
To my knowledge a Maria solo route is available.I never really understood people who both like harem and have intense dislike for anything even close to lesbian love/sex. I am not trying to disparage you or your preferences. But if you dislike lesbian love/sex so much the natural thing would be to be in a monogamous relationship, no? It really feels alien to me to forbid some combinations of members having sex in a polygamous relationship. Not to mention the possible jealousy and resentment it would spark.
Anyway, I really hope there will be a Maria solo-route.
My choice is made.Maria-only route: lesbian content optional and entirely avoidable
Maria + Emilia route: lesbian content optional and entirely avoidable - Maria and Emilia optionally get slightly handsy with each other during a threesome (as in a boob grab or slapping a butt)
Harem route: lesbian content unavoidable
Hopefully that's clear enough.
For the first time, I'm not even considering the harem path. I could put completely avoidable those characters that lead to that lesbianism.Maria-only route: lesbian content optional and entirely avoidable
Maria + Emilia route: lesbian content optional and entirely avoidable - Maria and Emilia optionally get slightly handsy with each other during a threesome (as in a boob grab or slapping a butt)
Harem route: lesbian content unavoidable
Hopefully that's clear enough.
I appreciated your explanation and I have no problem with your decision. Actually I am glad that you clarified it and I subbed to you because of it. I was merely responding to the guy who can't comprehend that people have different fetishes and that we should respect everyone's differences. Maybe I was too harsh on him.Well, everyone is forewarned (and it's in the OP as well)! I think it all works very well in the story, but if you don't like that content, then you can either avoid it (as I've made clear is possible) or not play the game.