VN Ren'Py Price of Power [Ch.25] [Pandaman Games]

[goulet1995]

I was following your game and really enjoying it until I read this post. I love harem games but despise bi-sexual LI's. A harem where the girls are fucking each other is no longer a harem but a Polyamory instead. All the creators I sub to make all bi-sexual and lesbian content optional and give you a choice between the two. They understand that women don't magically change their sexual orientation and that not everyone has a lesbian fetish (It is actually a real turnoff for me). I had a lot of respect for you because you were producing such a wonderful and romantic game. The fact that you are forcing bi-sexual Li's on me in order to have a harem ruins the game for me. It is your game and your choice but as someone who loved your art I would remiss in not communicating this to you.

Earlier you had said this which I was fine with

In the relatively distant future, the other two member of the optional harem will also be interested in one another (can't say more than that for spoiler reasons), so...Technically a poly harem? There will be optional lesbian content within the optional harem. There will also be optional lesbian content (between those characters and not involving the MC, Maria, or Emilia) if you don't do the harem content. Lots of options, but almost all of them are in the distant future. At least for a while still, this story is very focused on MC and Maria, with a secondary (but not insignificant) focus on Emilia and her dynamics with both of them.

When you changed it so that it was no longer optional you lost me.

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i kinda feel the same way but at same time see the devs point about not wanting to have a character have different personalities.

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[battali0n]

i kinda feel the same way but at same time see the devs point about not wanting to have a character have different personalities.

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What you are saying makes a lot more sense than what I have been reading in the forums. I just reread everything to get clarity and I still am not sure. If I can have Maria and Emelia without Bi-sexual or Lesbian content then I am interested again. The way the creator was saying things made it very confusing. He says that on the single path Lesbian is optional but on the harem path it is not which makes it sound like he turns Maria and Emilia Bi-sexual which would ruin them as Li's for me. I am now reading about two other girls being the cause. Since being with only two women is technically polygamy and a third is required to make a harem this is making me work really hard to it figure out.

I actually love the story so far and I want to believe you. The reason I dove into this whole rabbit-hole is because I was considering subbing to the creator and I have been burned so many times with creators turning my LI's bi-sexual out of nowhere that I always make sure first. I now feel hopeful thanks to you. I know a lot of creators are afraid of spoilers but all he had to say was what you said and I would have been happy.

I am putting it back on the menu and checking it out this weekend. Thank you my friend. Normally when I communicate these things I get a lot of hate and bile from people with a lesbian fetish who take it as a personal attack.

 

[bacienvu88]

What you are saying makes a lot more sense than what I have been reading in the forums. I just reread everything to get clarity and I still am not sure. If I can have Maria and Emelia without Bi-sexual or Lesbian content then I am interested again. The way the creator was saying things made it very confusing. He says that on the single path Lesbian is optional but on the harem path it is not which makes it sound like he turns Maria and Emilia Bi-sexual which would ruin them as Li's for me. I am now reading about two other girls being the cause. Since being with only two women is technically polygamy and a third is required to make a harem this is making me work really hard to it figure out.

I actually love the story so far and I want to believe you. The reason I dove into this whole rabbit-hole is because I was considering subbing to the creator and I have been burned so many times with creators turning my LI's bi-sexual out of nowhere that I always make sure first. I now feel hopeful thanks to you. I know a lot of creators are afraid of spoilers but all he had to say was what you said and I would have been happy.

I am putting it back on the menu and checking it out this weekend. Thank you my friend. Normally when I communicate these things I get a lot of hate and bile from people with a lesbian fetish who take it as a personal attack.

I never really understood people who both like harem and have intense dislike for anything even close to lesbian love/sex. I am not trying to disparage you or your preferences. But if you dislike lesbian love/sex so much the natural thing would be to be in a monogamous relationship, no? It really feels alien to me to forbid some combinations of members having sex in a polygamous relationship. Not to mention the possible jealousy and resentment it would spark.

Anyway, I really hope there will be a Maria solo-route.

 

[goulet1995]

What you are saying makes a lot more sense than what I have been reading in the forums. I just reread everything to get clarity and I still am not sure. If I can have Maria and Emelia without Bi-sexual or Lesbian content then I am interested again. The way the creator was saying things made it very confusing. He says that on the single path Lesbian is optional but on the harem path it is not which makes it sound like he turns Maria and Emilia Bi-sexual which would ruin them as Li's for me. I am now reading about two other girls being the cause. Since being with only two women is technically polygamy and a third is required to make a harem this is making me work really hard to it figure out.

I actually love the story so far and I want to believe you. The reason I dove into this whole rabbit-hole is because I was considering subbing to the creator and I have been burned so many times with creators turning my LI's bi-sexual out of nowhere that I always make sure first. I now feel hopeful thanks to you. I know a lot of creators are afraid of spoilers but all he had to say was what you said and I would have been happy.

I am putting it back on the menu and checking it out this weekend. Thank you my friend. Normally when I communicate these things I get a lot of hate and bile from people with a lesbian fetish who take it as a personal attack.

im not a fan of lesbians/bi Li in male mc games either so ik usually people make it seem like its the craziest thing ever that some people arent into lesbians

 

[bacienvu88]

im not a fan of lesbians/bi Li in male mc games either so ik usually people make it seem like its the craziest thing ever that some people arent into lesbians

I didn't say anything about disliking lesbians being crazy. I said that wanting MC having multiple women and at the same time forbidding them from having relationships with each other is weird. If you stay monogamous there won't be any risk of any lesbian action.

 

[FatGiant]

I didn't say anything about disliking lesbians being crazy. I said that wanting MC having multiple women and at the same time forbidding them from having relationships with each other is weird. If you stay monogamous there won't be any risk of any lesbian action.

Peace

 

[boobsrcool]

I disliking lesbians.

Whoa!

 

[goulet1995]

I didn't say anything about disliking lesbians being crazy. I said that wanting MC having multiple women and at the same time forbidding them from having relationships with each other is weird. If you stay monogamous there won't be any risk of any lesbian action.

wasnt saying you did was saying from other threads i have gotten that response. and as far as liking harem but not when the LI's are bisexual there are a few reasons
two girls doing stuff with eachother dosnt do anything for me
its overused to justify harems similar to dead dad in incest games
i prefer solo sex scenes anyways
i could list more reasons but feel this is getting off topic

 

[battali0n]

I never really understood people who both like harem and have intense dislike for anything even close to lesbian love/sex. I am not trying to disparage you or your preferences. But if you dislike lesbian love/sex so much the natural thing would be to be in a monogamous relationship, no? It really feels alien to me to forbid some combinations of members having sex in a polygamous relationship. Not to mention the possible jealousy and resentment it would spark.

Anyway, I really hope there will be a Maria solo-route.

To my knowledge a Maria solo route is available.

Male polygamy and harems have been the norm for most of the history of civilization. These harems did not include bi-sexual or lesbian members except in the largest harems which had them in the same ration as the rest of the population, which made them extremely rare. The only hic-up has been in western culture because of the catholic church and its demand for monogamy. Much of the rest of the world doesn't care.

It is only because of porn on the internet that a lot of creators began to include it in harem stories thinking that because it was popular in porn on the internet it would sell their games. I've talked to lot of people and those that do not have a lesbian fetish either just click through the content to get past it or are bored with it. There are those like me for which it is a complete turnoff so we look for creators who make it optional. I sub to several dozen creators who do exactly that. I enjoy harems because I am able to have romantic relationships with multiple women who feel the same way and do not mind that they are sharing me with other women. It is a fantasy because in my culture it is unacceptable but doesn't mean I can't enjoy it. I also enjoy games with only a single LI but when I can have more I don't see any reason not to unless I dislike the LI's.

 

[Pandaman Games]

Maria-only route: lesbian content optional and entirely avoidable
Maria + Emilia route: lesbian content optional and entirely avoidable - Maria and Emilia optionally get slightly handsy with each other during a threesome (as in a boob grab or slapping a butt)
Harem route: lesbian content unavoidable

Hopefully that's clear enough.

 

[FatGiant]

Maria-only route: lesbian content optional and entirely avoidable
Maria + Emilia route: lesbian content optional and entirely avoidable - Maria and Emilia optionally get slightly handsy with each other during a threesome (as in a boob grab or slapping a butt)
Harem route: lesbian content unavoidable

Hopefully that's clear enough.

My choice is made.

Peace

 

[Valuvika]

Maria-only route: lesbian content optional and entirely avoidable
Maria + Emilia route: lesbian content optional and entirely avoidable - Maria and Emilia optionally get slightly handsy with each other during a threesome (as in a boob grab or slapping a butt)
Harem route: lesbian content unavoidable

Hopefully that's clear enough.

For the first time, I'm not even considering the harem path. I could put completely avoidable those characters that lead to that lesbianism.

 

[Aristos]

Jesus Christ, guys.
It's obvious that the two new girls had something going on, so at some point in the story EVEN ON MARIA'S SOLO ROUTE the MC will catch them red-handed. As a player, you will probably have to choose between watching for a moment or looking away.
The same applies to Maria and Emilia's throuple route: the other two girls' being sexually involved is part of the story.
And obviously, if you go for the harem route, they will do things with each other when they're in bed with the MC. That's the way it is, so if you don't like the idea just go for one of the other two routes.

I don't like lesbian porn. Personally, lesbian scenes do nothing for me. However, during a threesome with a man some lesbian action is kinda hot. I just look at it as an additional way of getting the guy even hornier. Everyone is enjoying everyone's participation.

 

[Pandaman Games]

Well, everyone is forewarned (and it's in the OP as well)! I think it all works very well in the story, but if you don't like that content, then you can either avoid it (as I've made clear is possible) or not play the game.

 

[battali0n]

Well, everyone is forewarned (and it's in the OP as well)! I think it all works very well in the story, but if you don't like that content, then you can either avoid it (as I've made clear is possible) or not play the game.

I appreciated your explanation and I have no problem with your decision. Actually I am glad that you clarified it and I subbed to you because of it. I was merely responding to the guy who can't comprehend that people have different fetishes and that we should respect everyone's differences. Maybe I was too harsh on him.

 

[xapican]

Well, I'm into girls, not boys that makes me a lesbian !

 

[Pandaman Games]

Me catching up on this thread:

 

[whichone]

Me catching up on this thread:

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lol It's just a regular afternoon with pirates...

 

[Don Sucio]

I'm going to ask a very newbie question, but how do you start playing? I already have it unzipped and I don't see the typical "game" folder that you have to enter to play, I only get two folders, one for MacOS (I'm from Windows) and another that says "resources". I have never seen this download model in any game, they always have the "game" folder. In case it is important I have used Gofile for the download.

 

[rudy007]

this is how it should be like: