VN Ren'Py Completed Price of Power [Ep.30] [Pandaman Games]

[Ragnar]

I love the setting and its lore. The AI shenanigans can be fun or dark. The girls are nice although that department can use some variety (Blondes). Now the MC started good enough but he is turning into a snow flower. Now he's regrets about killing a dude who challenged him to duel for his waifu
Sometimes I miss the blank slate MCs. At least that way you can pretend your MC is a stoic dude and not some whiny bitch.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Sometimes I miss the blank slate MCs. At least that way you can pretend your MC is a stoic dude and not some whiny bitch.

The great irony of whining about the MC being a whiny bitch, just like a whiny little bitch.
I'd give you a good faith argument, but I ran out of fucks the last 3 times this was brought up. You aren't actually that tough, you wouldn't be that unaffected by killing someone, and as Zaya said the one's who aren't are the fucked up ones. Quit being a whiny little bitch complaining about an MC having basic human emotions.

 

[robinred]

Faled to initialize steam: WindowsError(126, 'The specified module could not be found')

 

[WaerM]

Don't know if this has been asked and answered, but will the Harem-Path be a "Catch-them-ALL" harem or will there only be a few selected ?
There are so many beatiful women in this game so it will be hard to choose (Oh and I'm asking for a friend)

 

[Fatman07]

Great chapter dev! The build up to the ambush scene was excellently done. The LIs also have depth and real personalities and not just cock-worshipper idiots.

Looking forward for the next update. Good Job!

 

[Pandaman Games]

I love the setting and its lore. The AI shenanigans can be fun or dark. The girls are nice although that department can use some variety (Blondes). Now the MC started good enough but he is turning into a snow flower. Now he's regrets about killing a dude who challenged him to duel for his waifu
Sometimes I miss the blank slate MCs. At least that way you can pretend your MC is a stoic dude and not some whiny bitch.

I'm not sure where you're coming up with this stuff, but it's literally not even true. A normal person can't just go around killing people with no remorse/regrets. Even highly-trained soldiers suffer from PTSD, forget about some village hunter. Any normal person would feel bad about killing people, even if they don't regret doing it - you can be forced to do something to protect yourself/your loved ones and wish you weren't put in that situation.

Anyways, this isn't the first time you've expressed the sentiment. If having a MC with somewhat-realistic emotional responses to taking sometimes life triggers you this much, you should probably go find a different game. Maybe in a game like COD or Doom you'll have faceless/emotionless MCs who just slaughter their enemies without a second thought, but this is a game that tries to keep to some level of realistic behavior. If people who experience PTSD are whiny bitches in your opinion, I just don't think you're emotionally mature enough to handle this game.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Don't know if this has been asked and answered, but will the Harem-Path be a "Catch-them-ALL" harem or will there only be a few selected ?
There are so many beatiful women in this game so it will be hard to choose (Oh and I'm asking for a friend)

There's 3 paths, Maria solo, Maria and Emelia, and the harem path with those two plus I believe Lune and Zaya. So it's not catch em all in the sense that you (probably?) won't be bedding the maids and cooks at Maria's estate, but it's catch em all in the sense that you end up with all the actual LIs.

 

[catnapper]

I'm not sure where you're coming up with this stuff, but it's literally not even true. A normal person can't just go around killing people with no remorse/regrets. Even highly-trained soldiers suffer from PTSD, forget about some village hunter. Any normal person would feel bad about killing people, even if they don't regret doing it - you can be forced to do something to protect yourself/your loved ones and wish you weren't put in that situation.

Anyways, this isn't the first time you've expressed the sentiment. If having a MC with somewhat-realistic emotional responses to taking sometimes life triggers you this much, you should probably go find a different game. Maybe in a game like COD or Doom you'll have faceless/emotionless MCs who just slaughter their enemies without a second thought, but this is a game that tries to keep to some level of realistic behavior. If people who experience PTSD are whiny bitches in your opinion, I just don't think you're emotionally mature enough to handle this game.

Completely agree - I thought it made the MC much more believable.
Most firing squads have at least one blank shot so that people can rationalise that they were not the one to kill the victim. Also, it has been known since the time of the Napoleonic wars that only a minority of infantry soldiers directly shot to kill, most people only kill (and we are all capable of it) if they are backed into a corner.
Professional armies do not want recruits who are keen to kill - and go to great lengths to exclude them - as they are often a greater threat to their own side rather than to the enemy.

 

[Ragnar]

I'm not sure where you're coming up with this stuff, but it's literally not even true. A normal person can't just go around killing people with no remorse/regrets. Even highly-trained soldiers suffer from PTSD, forget about some village hunter. Any normal person would feel bad about killing people, even if they don't regret doing it - you can be forced to do something to protect yourself/your loved ones and wish you weren't put in that situation.

Anyways, this isn't the first time you've expressed the sentiment. If having a MC with somewhat-realistic emotional responses to taking sometimes life triggers you this much, you should probably go find a different game. Maybe in a game like COD or Doom you'll have faceless/emotionless MCs who just slaughter their enemies without a second thought, but this is a game that tries to keep to some level of realistic behavior. If people who experience PTSD are whiny bitches in your opinion, I just don't think you're emotionally mature enough to handle this game.

I'm just expressing my opinion of the last update. The previous one had the same problem imo so I prolly said the same about it. If you read my post you can see that I say mostly good things about the game. My only criticism is the MC attitude in the last two updates. I don't know why you get triggered so much by a bit of criticism. It's fine if you think your writing is perfect but let me tell you that projecting today's sensibilities into medieval times comes of a bit childish.

 

[zeph19]

Okay, time to finally post my thoughts on this game. I played chapter 1-13 in one go, over a couple of days a couple of weeks back. Loved it.

First off, the game is wholesome as fuck. These characters are human and they genuinely care about each other. Of course, other games do that too, but to me, it's just the right amount.

The setting is awesome and I can't wait to see what happens next. The current discussion / issue around metal is very interesting to me, and I wonder how they'll solve that problem. Personally I agreed with Emilia and Legacy. Only a matter of time until people go from building farmer's tools to guns, unless regulated. But how? Through religion, or a benevolent dictatorship with the Daltons in charge? The AIs could be inherited by MCs and Maria's / Emilia's children, and inherited by theirs etc. through generations, guiding humanity.

A, to me, big thing I noticed this update was that the MC didn't rely on Legacy during the ambush. The strength and reflexes are borrowed, of course, but it was all on our MC to make his decisions and to shoot and land his arrows. Also, in the rain, easily led the group back to the hideout. He's great, even when Legacy takes a backseat. A little fear of mine was that the group would have the AI handle every difficult situation and to make every difficult decision (aside from the moral/ethical ones).

I also like the renders a lot. They're pleasant to look at, which may sound weird, but maybe it's the lighting or the smoothness. The MCs model I think I've seen before, a couple of times, but Maria, Emilia, Zaya and Lune all seem very "fresh" to me, as in, they're very different from the models that I'm used to. I especially like Emilia. Her eyebrows make her very likable and warm to me, and they fit her personality and what she's been through perfectly.

Of course, there are things to criticize, too. Emilia feels like an uncomfortable third wheel to me right now, and considering there are 14 chapters, which are a lot, I'd wish for a faster development of her route knowing the story's development doesn't give much space to that yet. Maria's still very jealous and kind of.. uptight? Maria is 100% going to be the one to bring it up and initialize it, so I hope that those seeds will be sown in her mind, soon.

Aside from that, the only thing that bothered me in some way was the benign narrative voice that kind of pulled me out of the story every time it appeared. The background info was nice, but it seemed off to me, in some way, breaking the immersion almost.

And that's it. It's a great game that I trust will be here for quite some time, judging the current pace, which makes me look forward to its future.

 

[OmegaZero21]

No changelog for ch13 WAS there a ch 13???

 

[Smarmint]

I'm just expressing my opinion of the last update. The previous one had the same problem imo so I prolly said the same about it. If you read my post you can see that I say mostly good things about the game. My only criticism is the MC attitude in the last two updates. I don't know why you get triggered so much by a bit of criticism. It's fine if you think your writing is perfect but let me tell you that projecting today's sensibilities into medieval times comes of a bit childish.

Well, when you call the MC a "snow flower" and "whiny bitch", it is understandable that the dev, who wrote his character and dialog, might not consider your criticism constructive.

I'll just second (or third) what most everyone else around here is saying. The MC is a small game hunter, barely into adulthood, raised in a religious fundamentalist, seemingly pre-industrial culture, who is completely isolated from the rest of the world. He is not the Terminator or John Wick. If anything, I think the MC is handling the situation more calmly than most, considering his age and background.

Imagine if you were hiding out in the forest, after being accused of some minor crime like stealing from a convenience store, perhaps it was mistaken identity and you were innocent, and a guard showed up looking for you and your girlfriend, and you shot and killed the man with a bow and arrow so you wouldn't be found (making you a murderer). Would you simply say, "oh well, I didn't want to be captured, so it's all justified", and immediately forget about it? Maybe that is you, but that certainly would not be a normal reaction. Nearly anyone human would justifiably regret killing an innocent person, and have second thoughts and nightmares about it.

 

[Pandaman Games]

No changelog for ch13 WAS there a ch 13???

No, it's all a conspiracy and I'm just skipping chapter numbers to cause mass confusion!

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Glad you've enjoyed the game! I think a lot of what you're wondering about will be addressed/begin to be addressed in Chapter 15.

 

[Ragnar]

Well, when you call the MC a "snow flower" and "whiny bitch", it is understandable that the dev, who wrote his character and dialog, might not consider your criticism constructive.

I'll just second (or third) what most everyone else around here is saying. The MC is a small game hunter, barely into adulthood, raised in a religious fundamentalist, seemingly pre-industrial culture, who is completely isolated from the rest of the world. He is not the Terminator or John Wick. If anything, I think the MC is handling the situation more calmly than most, considering his age and background.

Imagine if you were hiding out in the forest, after being accused of some minor crime like stealing from a convenience store, perhaps it was mistaken identity and you were innocent, and a guard showed up looking for you and your girlfriend, and you shot and killed the man with a bow and arrow so you wouldn't be found (making you a murderer). Would you simply say, "oh well, I didn't want to be captured, so it's all justified", and immediately forget about it? Maybe that is you, but that certainly would not be a normal reaction. Nearly anyone human would justifiably regret killing an innocent person, and have second thoughts and nightmares about it.

Idk but when I think about medieval fantasy I don't picture characters like college dudes for example. I mean in terms of personality, fears, desires and so on. Think about it, we're talking about a dark age of witch hunts and pestilence.
Yes, the MC killed a couple of dudes. One in a duel and another who was ready to torture his girlfriends, on top of that he was already a vector for the mystereous illness. That would have an impact on anyone from our civilized society. But idk if a hunter from year 999 would react like the MC did in that situation.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Idk but when I think about medieval fantasy I don't picture characters like college dudes for example. I mean in terms of personality, fears, desires and so on. Think about it, we're talking about a dark age of witch hunts and pestilence.
Yes, the MC killed a couple of dudes. One in a duel and another who was ready to torture his girlfriends, on top of that he was already a vector for the mystereous illness. That would have an impact on anyone from our civilized society. But idk if a hunter from year 999 would react like the MC did in that situation.

Riiiiiigggghhhhhttttt because it's modern conveniences that leave modern soldiers with PTSD and not the horrific kill or be killed scenarios, watching the comrades die and viewing atrocities against both enemies and civilians all under extreme duress. Those damn microwaves and king sized sheets are what's doing our soldiers in and definitely not the constant repeat traumas and threats to them and their friend's lives.
Back to my previous argument, quit fetishizing pre industrial psychology. The MC existing without a steam engine isn't going to affect their capacity for emotions. Them being a hunter isn't going to affect their capacity for emotions. The MC is a sensitive enough person outside of combat that even ignoring the outright insanity of your argument, there's no reason to expect they wouldn't be affected like this.

You've spent the last 2 updates arguing with the dev and most of the fan base about this exact point. I might be misremembering this but I'm pretty sure the mods even purged most of the last debate, just drop it already. The dev disagrees with you and has already stated they're happy with their characters reactions. You arent changing anyone's mind about it so just drop it, this debate is spam at this point.

 

[66551]

Wtf i downloaded the files and it's not the correct game ? Am i the only one with this problem ? The compressed version is correct, but the "hd" one gives you a different game

 

[Pandaman Games]

Wtf i downloaded the files and it's not the correct game ? Am i the only one with this problem ? The compressed version is correct, but the "hd" one gives you a different game

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about - there's no HD version of the game listed on the OP. Maybe you clicked on the DL for another game and got them mixed up or something? IDK...

 

[RoseKiller]

Go go Panda
It's a slow burn game, but the plot is really interesting and the renders are good looking.
Should try it out.
Also, Maria is gorgeous

 

[Ragnar]

Riiiiiigggghhhhhttttt because it's modern conveniences that leave modern soldiers with PTSD and not the horrific kill or be killed scenarios, watching the comrades die and viewing atrocities against both enemies and civilians all under extreme duress. Those damn microwaves and king sized sheets are what's doing our soldiers in and definitely not the constant repeat traumas and threats to them and their friend's lives.
Back to my previous argument, quit fetishizing pre industrial psychology. The MC existing without a steam engine isn't going to affect their capacity for emotions. Them being a hunter isn't going to affect their capacity for emotions. The MC is a sensitive enough person outside of combat that even ignoring the outright insanity of your argument, there's no reason to expect they wouldn't be affected like this.

You've spent the last 2 updates arguing with the dev and most of the fan base about this exact point. I might be misremembering this but I'm pretty sure the mods even purged most of the last debate, just drop it already. The dev disagrees with you and has already stated they're happy with their characters reactions. You arent changing anyone's mind about it so just drop it, this debate is spam at this point.

Yeah, you convinced me, men in the Middle Ages were preoccupied about their carbon footprint, child labour and other humanitarian issues

 

[FatGiant]

Yeah, you convinced me, men in the Middle Ages were preoccupied about their carbon footprint, child labour and other humanitarian issues

Am I wrong in thinking you missed the part of the plot that explains that this isn't in the past, but in the Future? That even after and during the Fall of Civilization, some modern values and ideas passed through?

I may be wrong in assuming you missed it, maybe you "ignored" it and went with "It looks medieval, it is medieval" kind of thought. Or, maybe you just used a bit of reductionism to make a point, pretending you didn't understood it was in the Future.

Anything is possible I guess, only you can say what you had in mind. However, know that your jab at the story is not correct and missed the plot by a whole continent.

Good try tho.

Peace