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HUNUTAN

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Well, I won’t say that this game was highly anticipated by me. But the update as a whole pleased with the scenes with Vivian. Both by the scenes themselves and their well-made angles, and what was still a little surprising, but in a good sense of the word, was the options for choosing who these scenes would be with. I won’t say that this is something new, but I haven’t seen such variability from developers for a long time (there are as many as three choices, and all of them work)).
Keep it up! If only there was more content for this game it would be absolutely great.)
 

Dr. Mick

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If you seek a meet'n'fuck game, well It's not a that for sure.
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The problem is that dangling the prize or "leading with the carrot" as a plot device gets old fast, especially when it's used repeatedly.

For people who have been frustrated since the beginning of the novel by a lack of answers, on top of being told frequently to just accept what's going on whenever you ask any question, you can likely imagine they would be tired of waiting.
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Which is what makes people frustrated about this particular novel, the lack of resolution. Possibilities are strung along, and there's only so much you can ask of an audience, as hope and the promise of answers are dangled just out of reach.

The hopeful become the disillusioned, then the disgruntled, before they finally disappear.
 

colween

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The problem is that dangling the prize or "leading with the carrot" as a plot device gets old fast, especially when it's used repeatedly.

For people who have been frustrated since the beginning of the novel by a lack of answers, on top of being told frequently to just accept what's going on whenever you ask any question, you can likely imagine they would be tired of waiting.
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Which is what makes people frustrated about this particular novel, the lack of resolution. Possibilities are strung along, and there's only so much you can ask of an audience, as hope and the promise of answers are dangled just out of reach.

The hopeful become the disillusioned, then the disgruntled, before they finally disappear.
I get your point and it makes sense, really.
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As usual, there are things I like that other people hate.

Thank you for sharing your insightful analysis. I see things in a new light now.

Maybe the dev will hear you, who knows...
 

Dr. Mick

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I get your point and it makes sense, really.
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As usual, there are things I like that other people hate.

Thank you for sharing your insightful analysis. I see things in a new light now.

Maybe the dev will hear you, who knows...
Thanks.

Listening for smaller or aesthetic things from the community is one thing. When it's about something in the story itself, it should be extra content, or only a minor change that doesn't have a major impact on the narrative.

To be blunt, I hope the dev does their own thing. Overall story elements should remain firmly within the author's grasp.
If they change any aspect to make someone happy, it will inadvertently make someone else upset.
Can't please everyone, so tell the story you would want to hear.
 
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micojive

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Thanks.

Listening for smaller or aesthetic things from the community is one thing. When it's about something in the story itself, it should be extra content, or only a minor change that doesn't have a major impact on the narrative.

To be blunt, I hope the dev does their own thing. Overall story elements should remain firmly within the author's grasp.
If they change any aspect to make someone happy, it will inadvertently make someone else upset.
Can't please everyone, so tell the story you would want to hear.
To each their own. Imo a dev should take in feedback and make changes that both suit the story and get as many people into it as possible.

If you need to possibly upset a small subset of people to appease a larger audience sometimes that has to happen.

We are coming up on a year in development for this game, and it has seen 3 pretty significant changes so far and the dev still only has 30 subs, so something isnt clicking with this game for more people.

Devs that sit firmly in "my way or the highway" mindset tend to not last very long and projects just dont get completed when they fail to attract new subs.
 

Mje1278

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Jul 1, 2022
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game doesn't work any more can't save or load
when i try to save I get this:

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/screens.rpy", line 674, in execute
screen save():
File "game/screens.rpy", line 674, in execute
screen save():
File "game/screens.rpy", line 678, in execute
use file_slots(_("Сохранить"))
File "game/screens.rpy", line 688, in execute
screen file_slots(title):Holly Halston
File "game/screens.rpy", line 688, in execute
screen file_slots(title):
File "game/screens.rpy", line 692, in execute
use game_menu(title):
File "game/screens.rpy", line 460, in execute
screen game_menu(title, scroll=None, yinitial=0.0):
File "game/screens.rpy", line 460, in execute
screen game_menu(title, scroll=None, yinitial=0.0):
File "game/screens.rpy", line 469, in execute
frame:
File "game/screens.rpy", line 472, in execute
hbox:
File "game/screens.rpy", line 478, in execute
frame:
File "game/screens.rpy", line 481, in execute
if scroll == "viewport":
File "game/screens.rpy", line 512, in execute
transclude
File "game/screens.rpy", line 692, in execute
use game_menu(title):
File "game/screens.rpy", line 694, in execute
fixed:
File "game/screens.rpy", line 714, in execute
grid gui.file_slot_cols gui.file_slot_rows:
File "game/screens.rpy", line 722, in execute
for i in range(gui.file_slot_cols * gui.file_s
 
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Azphel

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Mje1278
Have you tried to update the new version over an old one? If so, try a clean install (delete everything in the folder that contains the .exe file, then unpack the archive in an empty folder)
Also, try starting a new game, save it in an empty save slot, go forward some dialog lines, then load it. If this works but you can't load old saves, or save from loaded old saves, then those are too old and now incompatible and you have to restart
 

Mje1278

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Mje1278
Have you tried to update the new version over an old one? If so, try a clean install (delete everything in the folder that contains the .exe file, then unpack the archive in an empty folder)
Also, try starting a new game, save it in an empty save slot, go forward some dialog lines, then load it. If this works but you can't load old saves, or save from loaded old saves, then those are too old and now incompatible and you have to restart
nothing works guess I'll have wait for next update or give the game up altogether
 

Ursus4321

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I know you're just trying to instigate, but support from me makes a difference. For games I think are worthy, I typically sub at higher tiers and don't only do so for when the update drops. It's pretty consistent. And then, I often provide beta testing, replay and image gallery services for those who need it and any coding expertise. Winning me over does provide some perks for some devs that wish to use them (currently 6-7).
Wow, it seems that those who support ntr and sharing are also trying to blackmail the dev with the promise of support. They are not as free spirits as they seem to pretend. Promises promises promises.
 

Ragnar

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To each their own. Imo a dev should take in feedback and make changes that both suit the story and get as many people into it as possible.

If you need to possibly upset a small subset of people to appease a larger audience sometimes that has to happen.

We are coming up on a year in development for this game, and it has seen 3 pretty significant changes so far and the dev still only has 30 subs, so something isnt clicking with this game for more people.

Devs that sit firmly in "my way or the highway" mindset tend to not last very long and projects just dont get completed when they fail to attract new subs.
Changing your game drastically cause some pirates whine never works. We have seen it here many times.
 
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GetOutOfMyLab

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Wow, it seems that those who support ntr and sharing are also trying to blackmail the dev with the promise of support. They are not as free spirits as they seem to pretend. Promises promises promises.
I was talking to my boy Joshy and someone left a smart-ass remark. I simply explained why my support isn't just "Patreon #31" as they put it. I'm not giving dev a hard time, I'm not review bombing, or reporting the Patreon for questionable content. Not sure how withholding support until I know dev will include certain planned content is blackmail.
 

micojive

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Changing your game drastically cause some pirates whine never works. We have seen it here many times.
"some pirates" are literally 30000x more views than these devs get without the site and are the sole reason they gain any supporters at all.

If a dev like this wants to cater to 3 out of his 34 subs rather than the 286,000 people who have viewed it on this site its his/her choice.
 

Ragnar

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"some pirates" are literally 30000x more views than these devs get without the site and are the sole reason they gain any supporters at all.

If a dev like this wants to cater to 3 out of his 34 subs rather than the 286,000 people who have viewed it on this site its his/her choice.
So? As long as you don't pay for shit numbers mean nothing. This is not Steam, this is a pirate site :WeSmart:
 
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Azphel

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nothing works guess I'll have wait for next update or give the game up altogether
Last thing i can think of, is that there's a problem with the archive you downloaded; if you want to try, download again the official, uncompressed version and try again
If even this doesn't work, then i'm sorry but it's beyond me
 

micojive

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So? As long as you don't pay for shit numbers mean nothing. This is not Steam, this is a pirate site :WeSmart:
Right...we are almost a year into this game and its gone through 3 fairly significant redo's and the dev is gaining like 1-3 subs per update. Meaning maybe appealing to the 3 people subbed isnt the best way to go for a games growth if that isnt leading to more people.

But hey, if a mediocre product with no support is what the goal is then by all means.
 

denadm

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A fairy tale for fools. Going there without knowing where, doing this without knowing that. The way of life in Europe, being a fool? It's the same with the English language, dumb people can't translate it properly.

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FuhQ314

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Incest Mod for V0.18.1
Hello,
Here is an incest mod for the game, feel free to tell me if you find any bug.

It works only for the English translation, sorry.

Enjoy!

Edit:

In this mod, Kristina is the MC's true sister and they have the same parents now. They already act like incestuous brothers and sisters most of the time so it wasn't difficult to make it official :p
Yummy. I really wish devs would go all-in with their incest kinks in their AVNs or not bother with them at all (same for stepcrap and regular porn), 6MB mods like this shouldn't be necessary (no wonder their Patreon is only making $150/mo). Most devs that wanna avoid incest simply kill off the whole family at birth and have the MC living in an orphanage (though just the background setup of that is yawn-inducing to me).
 
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