VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. 5.03+p] [Zorlun]

[Zara Scarlet]

My frustration with this game is the weird way it blocks you out of content- like if you dont let some disgusting freak sexually assualt you, you dont get enough "points" to do something completely unrelated. Is there a way to disable the authors "helpful" option blocking?

The whole point of corruption, is if you don't corrupt you're protagonist sufficiently, then eventually certain scenes should not be available. I think there was one scene that required over 100 points of Lust. Well I've got over 190, so you would have had to miss out an awful lot of potential scenes giving Lust, to have 100 or less. That's a choice that people decide to make, not once, but many many times. So it's more than just choosing to avoid the more extreme scenes in this game.

If Zorlun decided to allow everyone, to do whatever scene they wanted, regardless of how many points they'd collected. Then it would make that part of the game meaningless. Either Myriam is very corrupted and she can do some very freaky shit, and maybe ends up getting so addicted to it, that all the vanilla stuff dosen't do it for her anymore, or she's hardly corrupted at all, and the freaky shit is something she would never dream of doing. Or you deliberately choose a middle course, where she ultimately has a greater variety of choices.

Personally, I think Zorlun has been really generous with the cut-offs, where certain choices become unavailable. He has a lot of leeway to make it much tougher. But he's chosen a relatively modest path, which the vast majority of players would have no difficulty attaining. If you can't meet the criteria, then it's because you deliberately chose not to, by avoiding a lot of content. So I honestly don't understand your criticism above.

 

[Deleted member 207916]

The whole point of corruption, is if you don't corrupt you're protagonist sufficiently, then eventually certain scenes should not be available. I think there was one scene that required over 100 points of Lust. Well I've got over 190, so you would have had to miss out an awful lot of potential scenes giving Lust, to have 100 or less. That's a choice that people decide to make, not once, but many many times. So it's more than just choosing to avoid the more extreme scenes in this game.

If Zorlun decided to allow everyone, to do whatever scene they wanted, regardless of how many points they'd collected. Then it would make that part of the game meaningless. Either Myriam is very corrupted and she can do some very freaky shit, and maybe ends up getting so addicted to it, that all the vanilla stuff dosen't do it for her anymore, or she's hardly corrupted at all, and the freaky shit is something she would never dream of doing. Or you deliberately choose a middle course, where she ultimately has a greater variety of choices.

Personally, I think Zorlun has been really generous with the cut-offs, where certain choices become unavailable. He has a lot of leeway to make it much tougher. But he's chosen a relatively modest path, which the vast majority of players would have no difficulty attaining. If you can't meet the criteria, then it's because you deliberately chose not to, by avoiding a lot of content. So I honestly don't understand your criticism above.

Actually there's a way to get everything and avoid things you don't like. I used save edit online to manipulate the points. That way i was able to get the scenes i want and avoid the ones i don't.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I would rather prefer couple of updates to revolve around Hammer than Cassius. I mean Cassius did receave fair amount of updates, i think it would be fair that Hammer receaves the same. I do understand your logic as well since, like you said, Cassius is around the house while Hammer is in stable and Myriam constantly needs to travel there.

As has been suggested, it makes no sense for Hammer to have as many scenes as Cassius. He's always going to have the most bestiality scenes, because he's the household pet with the most opportunities. Myriam has to make a special journey to visit Hammer, who is based outside the city, whereas Cassius is there all the time when she's at home. With all the things she's committed to doing, Myriam simply doesn't have the time to go riding, more than once or twice a week.

Having said that, I suspect another Hammer scene is imminent.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Actually there's a way to get everything and avoid things you don't like. I used save edit online to manipulate the points. That way i was able to get the scenes i want and avoid the ones i don't.

Well of course it's possible to manipulate games however you want. That's the whole reasoning behind cheats after all. But ultimately that defeats the entire purpose of a corruption game, where your choices are supposed to determine how the protagonist reacts when faced with extreme sexual circumstances. If you can just do anything, then it stops being a game, and just becomes a collection of fap scenes.

If that's what you want. I've got nothing against that at all. But it shouldn't happen within the normal confines of the game, which is what the person I was replying to, seemed to be suggesting.

 

[I-No]

I don't get you snowflakes! This is a fucking corruption game - you shouldn't be surprised if someone gets seriously corrupted. There are even some tags coming along with this game which are far from being harmless (bestiality, drugs, graphic violence, humiliation, male domination, rape, sexual harassment, spanking, urination,...). And the game starts with some really intense scenes too which should definitely show the directions the game is going to. If you can't stand this kind of game then simply don't play it! If you're looking for a romance novel kind of game with lots of female empowerment and some not too offensive vanilla petting you should consider todays Disney productions or maybe check out

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[Zara Scarlet]

I don't get you snowflakes! This is a fucking corruption game - you shouldn't be surprised if someone gets seriously corrupted. There are even some tags coming along with this game which are far from being harmless (bestiality, drugs, graphic violence, humiliation, male domination, rape, sexual harassment, spanking, urination,...). And the game starts with some really intense scenes too which should definitely show the directions the game is going to. If you can't stand this kind of game then simply don't play it! If you're looking for a romance novel kind of game with lots of female empowerment and some not too offensive vanilla petting you should consider todays Disney productions or maybe check out

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All the social work scenes were always going to involve some kind of group sex. There's literally no way of doing any other kind of scene, within those scenarios. So I don't understand why anyone, who doesn't want Myriam to get involved in extreme sexual situations, would object to that kind of content being blacked out. It's not like they'll be missing anything that they want to see. So I just don't understand their reasoning on this?

Obviously extreme stuff doesn't bother me at all. But if people want to take Myriam down a vanilla path, that's perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned. And there is the option to do that. It just means that they don't get as much content as I do, because as you rightly point out, this game is mainly aimed at people like me and you, who want to corrupt the shit out of her.

 

[I-No]

And there is the option to do that.

No, that's not the case. All you can do is AVOID those situations with - usually - no real replacement. Those scenes are just omitted. There is no gain at all, it's just less entertainment and progress.

 

[Snugglepuff]

I don't get you snowflakes!

Who's making unreasonable demands based on delusions of entitlement?

This is a fucking corruption game

It's not.
All the sexual kinks Myriam can get into are her exploring her own curiousities and sexual adventurousness/openness. That's not corrupting her, because psychologically she's not changing at all.

No, that's not the case.

Yes, that is the case.

All you can do is AVOID those situations with - usually - no real replacement.

That's literally how and why it's the case.

Those scenes are just omitted. There is no gain at all, it's just less entertainment and progress.

Of course they're omitted if they're not chosen. That is literally true for all the content in the game.
Each update adds more for various kinks and paths, but not all. Stop thinking of "no gain at all" while this projects is still in development when it's clearly a multi-branch story.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

No, that's not the case. All you can do is AVOID those situations with - usually - no real replacement. Those scenes are just omitted. There is no gain at all, it's just less entertainment and progress.

When I said that, I wasn't talking about the last update. I mean't some scenes earlier in the game, where there are options. Obviously, the further you get into the game. The more likely it is, that you get no sex content at all in some updates, if you make too many vanilla choices. But you have to avoid a lot of content earlier in the game, to be in that position. If you wanted to play that content later in the game, what reason would you have to avoid it earlier in the game? That doesn't make any sense. By choosing to miss out on content earlier in the game, you're also effectively choosing to miss it out later on as well. That's how corruption games are structured.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

t's not.
All the sexual kinks Myriam can get into are her exploring her own curiousities and sexual adventurousness/openness. That's not corrupting her, because psychologically she's not changing at all.

I don't agree with that. Myriam is the protagonist, so as the player you are her, so you're choices ultimately determine what path she takes. So you as Myriam, are choosing whether she becomes corrupted or not. That's different from a male protagonist, who would try to manipulate other women into making decisions that would corrupt them. Whether you're manipulating women or simulating them making very dubious choices, the end result is still the same. They end up doing stuff they probably wouldn't have done, without your input.

 

[TomUK]

I would rather prefer couple of updates to revolve around Hammer than Cassius. I mean Cassius did receave fair amount of updates, i think it would be fair that Hammer receaves the same. I do understand your logic as well since, like you said, Cassius is around the house while Hammer is in stable and Myriam constantly needs to travel there.

Personally I think it's time to put Hammer out to pasture, he's getting old and looks like he is going blind, time for Myriam to buy a brand new young colt who is a bit spirited shall we say and it won't just be Myriam doing the 'breaking in'.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Personally I think it's time to put Hammer out to pasture, he's getting old and looks like he is going blind, time for Myriam to buy a brand new young colt who is a bit spirited shall we say and it won't just be Myriam doing the 'breaking in'.

The older guys are just as frisky as the young ones in this game. And Myriam doesn't seem to have a preference when it comes to age.

 

[Deleted member 207916]

Personally I think it's time to put Hammer out to pasture, he's getting old and looks like he is going blind, time for Myriam to buy a brand new young colt who is a bit spirited shall we say and it won't just be Myriam doing the 'breaking in'.

I don't know nothing about horses but i presume that they're like other animals like dogs or cats. In this case i presume that it takes time to build that trust and it's not just you build trust but, in this case new horse, needs to have trust in its new owner (Myriam). Trust is not something builded over days or months but it takes years and new horse needs to loosen up and feel comfortable around her. I don't think this will happen but we may never know as Zorlun for sure surprises us with each new update.

 

[Snugglepuff]

I don't agree with that. Myriam is the protagonist, so as the player you are her, so you're choices ultimately determine what path she takes. So you as Myriam, are choosing whether she becomes corrupted or not.

She's not being corrupted.
Nor is she corrupting anyone.

The core of her morality doesn't change, and she's definitely no innocent.

That's different from a male protagonist, who would try to manipulate other women into making decisions that would corrupt them.

No, it's not.
Male or female protagonist is entirely irrelevant when it comes to corrupting and being corrupted.

Whether you're manipulating women or simulating them making very dubious choices, the end result is still the same.

Yes... You don't understand women very well. Just like men, they're not all the same carbon-copy stereotype.

Just because (too) many female protagonists are "meat puppets" for porn tropes, doesn't mean that all of them are.
The same goes for major and minor female characters.

That's what makes this a good female protagonist game - Myriam isn't just a prop for porn scenes, she's an actual character with personality and character development, and she influences those around her.
Hell, with Marc she provides the opportunity to "purify" him and his attitude towards Myriam... Probably women in general too.

They end up doing stuff they probably wouldn't have done, without your input.

Not quite.
As I said, the core of Myriam's morality does not change. Prime example, is that she'll never have sex with her daughter under any circumstance, despite being able to have an interest in incest and lesbianism.

To reiterate, she's already curious about/interest in the various kinks available.
We just let her explore them - It's her sexual liberation.

 

[Zorlun]

I don't agree with that. Myriam is the protagonist, so as the player you are her, so you're choices ultimately determine what path she takes. So you as Myriam, are choosing whether she becomes corrupted or not. That's different from a male protagonist, who would try to manipulate other women into making decisions that would corrupt them. Whether you're manipulating women or simulating them making very dubious choices, the end result is still the same. They end up doing stuff they probably wouldn't have done, without your input.

In my opinion it's not a corruption game, or at least not fully one, the game revolve around her exploring, on multiple possibilities, some do revolve around some sort of "corruption" if you like, but not all plot lines revolve around it, and the game in itself do not revolve around it, it's more of a porn sandbox than anything else I would say.

But that being said, players can absolutely concentrate their gameplay around the plot lines centered around "corruption" and push her into the extremes, and there will be some endings centered on that.

Though it's only how I feel working the game, how people take the game and live it is something else all together, in my life as an artist one of the thing you get to learn fairly quickly is that once you release a creation to the public, you can't force people to see what you want and neither stop them from interpret it as they want.

 

[Snugglepuff]

in my life as an artist one of the thing you get to learn fairly quickly is that once you release a creation to the public, you can't force people to see what you want and neither stop them from interpret it as they want.

In all fairness, that's dependant on how open to interpretation something is.
There are right and wrong interpretations for many things, and others where there isn't a right and wrong one.

It's like with the (pre-Disney) Star Wars movies, and how Lucas "planned it all out" despite all the evidence to the contrary, or how "they were always about Anakin Skywalker".

 

[cebs]

Android port updated​

 

[Zorlun]

In all fairness, that's dependant on how open to interpretation something is.
There are right and wrong interpretations for many things, and others where there isn't a right and wrong one.

It's like with the (pre-Disney) Star Wars movies, and how Lucas "planned it all out" despite all the evidence to the contrary, or how "they were always about Anakin Skywalker".

You would be surprised of the crazy shit people can see in the most innocent and/or bland artwork. ^^

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

Wish there was a sex scene with the molester at the subway. I think the last time Myriam had a scene at the subway is only with a handjob.

Patience Padawan. It's not possible to do progress every storyline in every update. I'm sure it will come along eventually.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

She's not being corrupted.
Nor is she corrupting anyone.

The core of her morality doesn't change, and she's definitely no innocent

You say the core of her morality isn't changing. But how can that be the case, when she's allowing herself to be sucked into a relationship with Marc, having sex with her dog and horse, and cheated on her partner? All things that she would have previously considered to be reprehensible. She's doing so many things, that she would have never dreamed of doing in the past. Which her former self would have been horrified about, if someone else had suggested that she was going to do those things in the future. The reason why she's able to do those things, without feeling really bad about it, is because her morality has changed. She's become more open to doing things, that a large chunk of society ( including her former self) , would view as immoral.

How many times in the past did she tell Marc, that what they were doing was wrong, and they couldn't do it again? Does she say these things anymore? She doesn't because her core of morality has changed

Yes... You don't understand women very well. Just like men, they're not all the same carbon-copy stereotype.

Women in adult games are caricatures, they don't bear any resemblance to women in real life. Myriam for instance is a nympho slut, and has more sexual partners in one day, than the vast majority of women in real life, have in their entire lives.

I get that her personality isn't typical. She's intelligent, generous and caring, and not just the usual sex-crazed bimbo who often turns up in these games. But Myriam is one of the most promiscuous characters in adult game history. So she's still stereotypical from that perspective. She basically has sex with virtually every person she meets, and you can't get more porn tropy than that

As I said, the core of Myriam's morality does not change. Prime example, is that she'll never have sex with her daughter under any circumstance, despite being able to have an interest in incest and lesbianism.

This is not correct. Prior to this game she wasn't indulging in incest, she wasn't having sex with her pets, she wasn't having lesbian sex, or gangbangs, or cheating on her partner. The example you give is irrelevant, because her attitude to incest has changed completely, from not doing it at all in any circumstances, to doing it regularly with at least one person. And your interpretation that she's already interested in these kinks, but just not exploring them, is simply not true. At the start of the game, Myriam thinks most of these kinks are wrong, and that normal people don't do them. She changes her mind about this, because her sense of morality is challenged by people that she trusts, like Evelyn and Edward