doccop63

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You're right she is scared, but that's not the prime motivator for her actions at that moment. The two choices are between her standing up to Anthony because she refuses to accept his version of events or giving in and believing that her own interpretation of the events in the office was at fault. Neither of those choices was primarily affected by fear or her lack of it, but by her willingness or resistance to accept Anthony's lies. On the one hand, she's saying enough is enough I'm not going to fall for this any more and even though I'm scared ( when Anthony slaps her), I'm going to have the courage to stand up to this intimidation, because I believe my interpretation of events. Whilst with the other she just falls back to her usual acceptance of whatever spin Anthony puts on events, not because she's afraid ( she's afraid in both cases), but because Anthony has abused her over a long period of time, to the point she's become conditioned to accepting whatever he says. In this instance she ignores her instincts, which are screaming out to her that Anthony is giving her a load of bull, and just decides to believe him. If fear was her prime motivator at this point, she wouldn't be able to resist, as she does for the other choice. Because it's not mainly about fear, but deciding to believe her instincts or ignoring them.

Myriam has never lacked courage, just self belief. And this game is all about her exploring her beliefs and fantasies, and accepting that they're equally as valid as anyone elses. Because Anthony has progressively convinced her, that her opinion doesn't matter and that she's too dumb to work stuff out for herself. This is the nature of abuse. Seemingly intelligent people reduced to disregarding what most people would resist. Abuse is not just about fear, but manipulating people into a mindset where they'll never stand up for themselves, where they'll always accept another interpretation of events over their own.

The fact is, when Myriam actually stands up to Anthony, he always backs down. Because essentially he's a coward, albeit a very manipulative one. Physically Myriam is more than capable of resisting Anthony. She's much taller than him, and probably equally as strong. The big difference between them, is he believes he's always right, whilst she undervalues her own opinions. And Anthony has recognised this, and over time he's convinced her that she's right to undervalue her opinions. And this allows him to manipulate her whenever he wants. This is why Anthony chose her as a partner, because he desperately needs someone to feel superior to. And because Myriam is essentially rich and powerful, her being so controllable, makes her all the more alluring for him
Well put and sums up our heroine Perfectly. By the time that I got to the bedroom confrontation scene, I'd made the same assessment.
 

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That Means Jose Terrel got some Break to Load their Cum :LOL:. :unsure: So next time Will we get the chance for Options going for a Female masseuse and a Male masseuse? Waiting for the next Parlor Scenes. I am sure This Update will be Hot as well :love:

No, not in the earlier chapters, just in ch4.10 for now and she'll have another scene in chapter 5 (with some water works as well), it was part of a commission.
 
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No, not in the earlier chapters, just in ch4.10 for now and she'll have another scene in chapter 5 (with some water works as well), it was part of a commission.
Kinda a shame, my Saph Myriam really wanted to do stuff with her cousin, but didn't want two horny fuckboi masseuse involved. I'll miss on the waterworks. But at least there's finally a spa option without a creepy dude attached, which my Saph My will likely appreciate, since most men she's met have been horrid.
 
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doccop63

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I was saying that Myriam can finally have sex during a massage.
I'm not understanding. So Mi and Evelyn didn't have sex with the masseurs on their second visit at the spa? Or later when she went alone? Or do you mean that she can finally have Lesbian sex during a massage? Because your previous statement is misleading.
 

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So Mi and Evelyn didn't have sex with the masseurs on their second visit at the spa? Or later when she went alone?
I can't speak for GokutheG, but no, in my playthrough, Myriam definitely did not have sex with either of the masseurs, not at any time - not at the spa, not at the riding stables.

Unfortunately, this also means that Myriam has not had any sex scenes with Evelyn in my playthrough, which is something I would very much like to happen. I guess I can only wait to see if Zorlun will ever include a genuine Myriam/Evelyn scene, or at least a scene with the two of them which doesn't include characters I dislike.
 

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I'm not understanding. So Mi and Evelyn didn't have sex with the masseurs on their second visit at the spa? Or later when she went alone? Or do you mean that she can finally have Lesbian sex during a massage? Because your previous statement is misleading.
I really don't get what's confusing. Myriam and Eve didn't have sex during the massage because there were dudes involved. Now that she can have a massage without dudes being involved I'll let her have sex.

What I really like about this game is that the player controls who Myriam sleeps with. There's nothing misleading about my previous statement.
 
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Hey guys. I have uploadet 4.09.,but it dosent work with my save from 4.08. What´s wrong, who can help me?
 

doccop63

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I really don't get what's confusing. Myriam and Eve didn't have sex during the massage because there were dudes involved. Now that she can have a massage without dudes being involved I'll let her have sex.

What I really like about this game is that the player controls who Myriam sleeps with. There's nothing misleading about my previous statement.
So you when Luis began fingering Mi during the massage, that was sex? Seems to me that, if you stop rubbing someone to lick, suck, and poke them, that's sex Not a massage, be it a man or woman. A rub down while you're fingering someone is still sex, not a massage, man or woman. I'm just saying, your context of sex during a massage makes no sense to me.
I agree that the game's more fun when you can pick Mi's sex partner. It's why I chose to play, and keep playing this great game. I guess, for me a least, what you're saying is interpretational.
 

doccop63

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I can't speak for GokutheG, but no, in my playthrough, Myriam definitely did not have sex with either of the masseurs, not at any time - not at the spa, not at the riding stables.

Unfortunately, this also means that Myriam has not had any sex scenes with Evelyn in my playthrough, which is something I would very much like to happen. I guess I can only wait to see if Zorlun will ever include a genuine Myriam/Evelyn scene, or at least a scene with the two of them which doesn't include characters I dislike.
Although it wasn't in your playthrough, the scene is there. It even ends with a golden shower for Eve alone or Eve and Mi. If you have gallery mod, you can go thru the menu and see it for yourself. Like everything in this game, your playthrough is based on the choices you make.
 

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Although it wasn't in your playthrough, the scene is there. It even ends with a golden shower for Eve alone or Eve and Mi. If you have gallery mod, you can go thru the menu and see it for yourself. Like everything in this game, your playthrough is based on the choices you make.
Did I say something which suggested otherwise? No, I did not.

And yes, of course my playthrough is based on my choices. I made that perfectly clear, myself.

What was the point you were trying to make in this post? I'm afraid I don't get it.
 

GokutheG

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So you when Luis began fingering Mi during the massage, that was sex? Seems to me that, if you stop rubbing someone to lick, suck, and poke them, that's sex Not a massage, be it a man or woman. A rub down while you're fingering someone is still sex, not a massage, man or woman. I'm just saying, your context of sex during a massage makes no sense to me.
I agree that the game's more fun when you can pick Mi's sex partner. It's why I chose to play, and keep playing this great game. I guess, for me a least, what you're saying is interpretational.
That's the thing Myriam never had anything sexual happen during any of the massages. Her first visit was completely professional and he kept it that way during the other visits.

It seems like you believe that just because a scene is available in the game every Myriam will go through with it and that's not the case. Let's take Marc for example. Myriam can be dominant or submissive towards him. There's also a third option where you can also decide not to have any sexual contact with him. If you don't have sexual contact with him then he acts like a regular son.
 

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That's the thing Myriam never had anything sexual happen during any of the massages. Her first visit was completely professional and he kept it that way during the other visits.

It seems like you believe that just because a scene is available in the game every Myriam will go through with it and that's not the case. Let's take Marc for example. Myriam can be dominant or submissive towards him. There's also a third option where you can also decide not to have any sexual contact with him. If you don't have sexual contact with him then he acts like a regular son.
How does a regular son act like in a porn game? Cause I’ve never seen one :ROFLMAO:
 
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