This is so wrong. Have you never played Fallout? Elder Scrolls? CRPG games like Divinity Original Sin 2? Most of the time when you do things a certain way it doesn't tell you what you missed if you did it another way. That's for you to find out on your next playthrough or if you reload a save to see what happens. That doesn't make it a bad design. Is Mass Effect a badly designed game? Is Dragon Age?
and to the people giving Zorland a hard time about this and that most the scenes are optional if you don't like domination or abuse like i don't find a walkaround and if you can't find one then ask others if there is a walkaround possible.
I haven't played any of those. My history of gaming comes from an earlier time, in which it was standard that if you were missing something important, there were hints that you were missing something. If that's changed, then okay. But I'd still call it bad game design, no matter how much money or programming indentured servitude talent went into the game. Consequential choices — branch severing choices — shouldn't be opaque. That's the developers doing a shit-ton of work and then begging the player to not even notice what they've missed.
A legitimate question: why is it a feature? Revisiting every single choice and all possible branches, for (in the games you're referencing, not this one) roughly a thousand hours, to see if something changes? That, to you, is enjoyable and rewarding? Is that something you consider fun?
Reminds me of an MMO I used to play. Some players got upset because they didn't have the best gear available. It didn't matter to them that that those with the better gear had put in more effort. They felt that simply playing the game gave them the right to have all the best gear.
I don't want the best gear with no effort. I don't want every scene with no effort. I want to know that I'm missing stuff, and I'd prefer that the game — rather than the dev or other players — tell me that I am, so I can put in the work to change my outcomes. That's all.
Yes, that's exactly why. Sure, I enjoy linear games too, if I want to experience a good story being told to me, like with Final Fantasy or Metal Gear.
I enjoy replayability as well, but Baldur's Gate (and II) regularly tells you, usually via dialogue, that you're making a game-changing choice. You're telling me that you want to go back and revisit every single choice you make, hunting for hidden content, rather than simply taking narratively obvious alternative paths that lead you to that content.
Hi, don't want to get in the polemics that seems to be starting to get flaming, but notice that you don't need to abandon him or just call the cops to get to William's scene.
No, you're right; I didn't, at first, realize I could push the scene until the "spend more time" (or whatever) choice. So it's very true that you can be nice to Bobo and still get William. But, again, my objection isn't to the branching, which I fully support. It's to the opacity of the choice. Once I became aware that it existed, I bailed on Bobo ASAP (because, again, I don't enjoy this sort of content in corruption games), but if I'd known I could be relatively kind and still get William, I would have. So Myriam acted like an asshole when she didn't have to, but in my defense: how was I supposed to know she didn't have to without looking at the code? Without doing so, it's an either/or choice.Hi, don't want to get in the polemics that seems to be starting to get flaming, but notice that you don't need to abandon him or just call the cops to get to William's scene.
In one gameplay, I intervened, fought off the guys, even helped him, and still got the William part. What really makes the difference is if you help him only with one thing, or with both, when you are given the choice. And in one of the plays I honestly found not so strange that she helps him only for one thing, since she has to go back home and is in a certainly psychological sitaution. That is not being an "uncaring asshole", since she went when there was the noise, she went in to see what was happening despite knowing there were problems, than she still helped Bobo after.
When someone asks you for money to buy food, you can and buy the food with them, or you can just give them the money, but if it is true that the first thing is even nicer, doing the second does not make you an "uncaring asshole".
Plus, honestly, many, if not most, people would not care even about going to check the noise, and seeing trouble, would not call the police or even less intervene, especially, for this second option (intervening), if you consider that depending how you played/see her, at that point she may have already the profile of someone who would not defend herself.
So, definitively if you make her do that, she is already very far from being an "uncaring asshole"
OMG. For the last time We can say this till were blue in the face, the William scene has to do with TIMING, if you take too long with Bobo you will miss William coming home. Now do you get it?
I never didn't get that. But it's obvious you've never understood what I'm saying. What's my clue that the William scene is waiting?
I don’t always need a clue, it’s called replayability, he gives u many choices and paths to choose. That’s why there are so many save slots, so use them. Go back and pick other choices so you’ll see all scenes
Just because!!! For some people it's a pleasure to search for secrets and hidden things. Now if you don't find that fun, well, you don't, so why keep talking about it.
No, he's quite right. In those games it's usually clear when you are about to make an important choice, and it's clear that if you choose A (save the Queen) you get another story than choosing B (save the pawn). You don't know what you are missing, but you know that you are missing something and you can save, go back and try the other way if you want to know.
Same. I was kinda let down when nothing happened after that. But I guess that will get rectified in the future.
Well really anybody do me a favor by checking if you have a Aiden in the changing room save and check how many cum kink trait points you have so I can compare it to what I got then I will know my mistake precedes that point or is after it. Thank you in advance.
I don't think I have a save around from that scene, but I can tell you that I didn't have enough points for Aiden to cum on her face in the changing room and I carried that deficit with me until the scene with the good boi cumming in her mouth which I was missing exactly 2 points for.
