Viressa

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Sorry I didn't make it clear. I know how to trigger 2nd date either with Mike or Danny now, and I have experienced both roads. I was trying to ask what is the prerequisite for the future 3some road? I would save a profile for that and use console command to activate solo date now.
Any outcome where you go on the double date with the cops, but don't end up on the solo date with either Mike or Danny, will put you on the path to do the threeway date with both of them. Not dating the cops at all will have Myriam stay home.
 
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I would like to provide a little more clarification on this issue, since it gets into one of my fields of interest, which is intellectual property rights and copyright laws.

But first a disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, and I don't provide legal advice. When I talk about the law, I am giving my best understanding of what I have read and/or heard from people who know this stuff better than I do, and I won't accept any liability for the information I provide. /disclaimer.

The interactive licenses are actually only needed when you are using the 3D assets themselves in the game in a way which allows the player to interact with them directly, hence the name "interactive license." As long as you are using the Daz assets to create 2D images, and the players of your game are not interacting with the 3D assets, you do not need an interactive license.

Even though the Daz rendered images in these games look 3D, and we call it 3D art, the fact is that it's still a 2D image. Take Project Myriam, for example. The player can't take control of the camera, rotate it, and look at the image from a different angle. The image doesn't actually exist in a different angle. It only exists in a 2D form. So, if you're making a Ren'Py game with Daz render art, you will probably never need an interactive license.

It would be the same for an RPGM game in which you used Daz to render out still images for character sprites or environments. Even if you have animated character sprites, as RPGM games typically do, you would normally animate the sprites by splicing together a number of still 2D images. And if you had cutscenes which used Daz renders, either still images or animations, they would still be 2D images and animations, despite looking 3D, because the player could not control the camera and view the image from different angles or different levels of zoom.

To give you an example of when you would need an interactive license from Daz, let's say that you are making your adult game in the Unreal engine, and you're using a Daz environment, such as one of those completely furnished houses which are available in the Daz store, as your game environment. And you use a Daz character, wearing Daz clothing assets, as the player character in the game. The player is now controlling a 3D Daz asset, walking around in another 3D Daz asset, while wearing a 3D Daz asset. For that, you would need separate interactive licenses for each and every asset you used.

Or imagine that you create a game, in whatever engine, which allows the player to modify their outfit. They can load in different clothing items, rotate the camera to show the clothing from different angles, maybe change the outfit colors, and so forth. This is interacting with the actual 3D assets, the clothing, so this would require an interactive license.

But as long as you are just using the Daz assets to create 2D artwork which you put into your game, you don't need an interactive license. You only need the license which comes with every asset you buy in the Daz store, or the Renderosity store, or the Renderotica store. Basically, if you bought the asset, and didn't pirate it, you also received a limited license to use the asset in creating artwork, and you don't need any other licenses to use your artwork. You would just need additional licenses to use the 3D assets in other ways.
Thanks mate. Thanks for explaining me in detail. you have cleared all of my doubts thanks
 

HagureBuster

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It's not possible to get both right now, the threesome date isn't implemented. If you try to use console commands to set the variables to get both solo dates on the same playthrough it'll give you Danny's date. My recommendation if you just wanna see both and don't care about having a useful save file afterwards is to use jump commands. (ch3_27_date_with_mike and ch3_27_date_with_danny are the relevant labels). When I did this it complained that some variables were undefined, just rollback and set them to True as they pop up. Also note you need 20 Trust or more (MCtrait['Trust']) for Danny's date to go anywhere.
I believe these two (ch3_27_date_with_mike and ch3_27_date_with_danny) are the second date event, just validate that is enough? I used to validate the precondition events code. like the last three lines in picture to trigger Mike 2nd date, or (getting_to_the_hotel_hammered) to trigger Danny 2nd date.

And I was trying to ask how to get 3some road in future. what's the plan in Zorlun's mind, I would like to save a file for that and use console command to activate solo date now.
 

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Any outcome where you go on the double date with the cops, but don't end up on the solo date with either Mike or Danny, will put you on the path to do the threeway date with both of them. Not dating the cops at all will have Myriam stay home.
Are u also in developing team? and how can you be such responsive!!! Thx for explanation.
 
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"Intellectual property" is a ridiculous concept. Why many of us are pirates. I think "private property" (means of production - large tracts of land, whole forests, toothbrush factory, etc) should be illegal but "personal property" (home, car, toothbrush, family level farmland should obviously be protected.)
I completely disagree with everything you said here, but it would be pointless to debate it any further, because a mod is going to come through here in a couple of hours and delete our posts for being "off topic".
 
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Wow. Just a SCENE from a 55 year old movie that most Americans have seen (and includes an ad to buy or rent the entire movie) and they put up a copyright claim and it's given the OK to block. Ridiculous.
Oops, sorry.
I know most F95 members are in USA, but I did not expect it to be blocked, I am in Europe, and did not think about testing before.
Yep, definitively must be some linked to the rights, probably someone got the redistribution rights without limits, so they extended them to "Internet streaming", even if at the time it did not exist.
If I had known, I would have linked to the original language version, I guess (but I may be wrong) that would not have been blocked in USA.
Thoguh I am a bit surprised - I know this was one of the Leone movies that was well known even in USA (well, the end duel has been reproduced tons of times, Tarantino was very explicit in copying it and did not try to hide it, he considers it an homage), but I did not expect it was as known as you suggest.

P.S. In the case anybody wonders about that reference to "original language", no, the original language was not English, the first Western by Leone that was made thinking specifically about the English speaking market was "One Upon A Time in the West". For the others, even if he used English-speaking actors like Clint Eastwood, they were in Italian, you can see it in how in the uncut "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly" ends (let's try again :) ), at the end, in Italian (though also a Spanish speaker, or a Portuguese speaker should get it) the "mothernal reference" :-D is perfectly understandable and fades perfectly in with the music by Morricone.
 
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an opinion on the subject written by someone with experience in copyright law (They didn't list their credentials, so I don't know if they are actually a full-fledged lawyer.) before making my post.

But I'm glad that we more or less agree on the important points.
Well, trust me on one aspect (if nothing else, due to pratical experience), there are attempts at convergence, or better, USA goverment and big companies attempting to force the others to follow the USA rules and approach (because typically more towards protecting company rights), but there are still differences, and working in international stuff, I can assure you unless they specialise in the international aspect (since lawyers tend to specialise) or have practical experience about it, an USA lawyer will not know the law and the approach outside, and often the opposite is true as well.
Very important when it comes to negotations, to contract, business dealing across jurisdictions, and especially to enforcement in a civil court (not that criminal is the easy, but it is a different area altogether, with all the difficulties, it is easier to get someone arrested for a violent crime, than to get a civil court sentence executed in a different jurisdiction).

Basic example ? In USA you can give away completely all the rights linked to the authorship, in the European Union, the so-called "moral right" cannot be purchased, sold or given away.
 

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I need Incest patch:cry:
Patience having you should, padawan... Sorry, I could not resist the temptation :).
It's coming, it's coming, and it is not a white walker :), Saturday is not that far far away... (oops, kind of two series of movies with one reference, sorry :))
Be reassured, the incest patch will be back :) , same time, same channel :) (did not add something to time and channel, to avoid making the reference too explicit, Kapow ! :-D )
 

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The date night depend on your choices, with four roads possible, date with Danny alone, Mike alone, both or them or staying home. This update only the two solo scenes are up, the two others will be on the next one.
For solo Mike, you need to Myriam get mad at Danny during the first cop date scene and leave early, then let Mike give you a ride home (inviting him in is optional, but will have some minor flavor differences).
For solo Danny, you need Myriam to get totally hammered during the first cop date scene and stay the night with Danny.
If you're not on one of this two roads, the update will stop until the next one with either a new date with both or Myriam staying home with other adventures.
Thank you so much for replying. That is a big help.
However, I thought she did get hammered on the date but then seems to always sleep with both cops not just Danny.
 

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Thank you so much for replying. That is a big help.
However, I thought she did get hammered on the date but then seems to always sleep with both cops not just Danny.
You can decide how much she drinks before the date and on the date. She can also leave if she thinks the dirty dancing went too far or what they were saying when she came back from the bathroom.
 
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Sorry I didn't make it clear. I know how to trigger 2nd date either with Mike or Danny now, and I have experienced both roads. I was trying to ask what is the prerequisite for the future 3some road? I would save a profile for that and use console command to activate solo date now.
You can decide how much she drinks before the date and on the date. She can also leave if she thinks the dirty dancing went too far or what they were saying when she came back from the bathroom.
why does the game end where Miriam and her daughter are on the couch?
 

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what to do to go on a date?
Have Myriam accept the date with the two cops earlier in the game.

- To go on Danny's date, get Myriam absolutely wasted so she stays the night in the hotel with him.

- To go on Mike's date, Myriam gets pissed off and walks out early, but lets Mike take her home. (Letting him fuck her there is optional, you can still go on the date even if you say no to him there.)
 
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Thank you so much for replying. That is a big help.
However, I thought she did get hammered on the date but then seems to always sleep with both cops not just Danny.
There was two different way she would go to the hotel with both of them, the hammered way was when she was totally wasted with alcohol and ended up staying the night with Danny, which will lead to the solo date with him later.
The other way was she go on her own and sleep with the two but go home after that, which will lead to another double date in the future.
 
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There was two different way she would go to the hotel with both of them, the hammered way was when she was totally wasted with alcohol and ended up staying the night with Danny, which will lead to the solo date with him later.
The other way was she go on her own and sleep with the two but go home after that, which will lead to another double date in the future.
I think another way for a double date is to not do dirty dancing and leave without Danny feeling teased and getting pissed off.
 
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