VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. 5.08a+p] [Zorlun]

[Zara Scarlet]

For the sake of argument lets just say i have a bar in a sketchy neighbourhood and a couple broad shouldered guys visit me on a regular basis to receive "money for my protection". One day i dont manage to cough up the necessary amount and end up severely bruised up. The police arrive,questioning me about the reason for my battered appearance. The words "no officers,i was clumsy and fell from the stairs,those guys are my friends" are uttered from my mouth, although neither me nor anyone else standing in hearing distance believes them. Simultaneously, everyone understands the reason i spoke those words, and also no,my silence on this matter doesnt absolve the perpetrators from the culpability for the crime of extortion. Any person with a modicum of life experience understands that there is a myriad of situations where people might not want to or might not be able to discuss an injustice or injury that was inflicted upon them. Be it shame,intimidation,PTSD from the traumatic experience that leaves the victim not wanting to rehash and recapitulate said events,and the obvious amplification that stems from bureaucratic intervention and media response,all those are factors that understandably contribute to victims rather choosing to be silent. So you have to be either a completely naive dumbbell without any life experience whatsoever,or an amoral trashbag who maybe hopes to one day use this type of silencing to his own advantage, to propagate the ludicrous stance that just because someone didnt speak out or even said "no harm done" that this would constitute bulletproof evidence

It wouldn't make any difference, who saw what or how many people knew what was going on. If the victim doesn't press charges, there is no case. It doesn't matter how convinced the police are that a possible crime has taken place, the victim still has to confirm that it did take place. If they didn't, the prosecution service just wouldn't carry on with it, because the chance of a conviction in those circumstances, would be virtually nil. I'm in no way trying to make excuses for people who have perpetrated assaults/rapes on others. Just that if the victim of that assault, doesn't regard it as such, for whatever reason. There is no legal case for the authorities to pursue. That's not naive, it's just a fact.

In the instance we're referring to in this game, there is no rape case at all, because Myriam is completely unaware of what really happened when she returned from the museum. And actually believes that it was she, in her drunken state, who forced herself on Marc, not the other way around. Marc is the only person who knows the truth, so unless he confesses, as far as the rest of the world is concerned, it never happened. It doesn't matter that we know, because we're not characters in this game world.

 

[TomUK]

"Sorry" but the game is, to say it nice...bad. There are so many choices where you do something small/simple and it escalates into stuff you dont even want...

i.E.

Party at the museum: You drink, smoke and you not only get fucked by the one guy but instead get gangbanged, assfucked by the driver and later on even from the son... I mean WTF?! Another problem is, at some point, you cant even deny it anymore...

At the massage parlor: You get fingered, then the action with the cousin and out of nowhere it switches to a gangbang... again.

There are absolutely no hints that you get used like a park bench after every single time you buy a coffee or what not...

Oh and the MC gets so dumb that she believes almost everything. "Trust" should be renamed in loss of iq. -> Priest says he will cleanse her, faps and cums in her mount and she belives that it was a good ritual...

All of these scenarios are YOUR CHOICE, none of them have to happen if you don't want them to, simple answer to the first scene, don't drinks loads and don't smoke weed.

The second one, don't allow the extras and she won't get fingered and fucked or pissed on.

As for your issue with 'trust', that is the point of the game, that she is too trusting and needs to 'wake up', but with that particular instance you mention, don't confess or tell the priest everything, then you'll avoid the scene.

EVERYTHING that happens in this game is YOUR CHOICE.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

This is completely false. If you have checked the laws for your own home (state/country/whatever) and found that to be the case where you live, then okay, but the assumption that it's a universal state of affairs is way off. And the belief that jurisdiction makes no difference is bizarre. Of course jurisdiction makes a difference. The laws in one place are different from the laws in another place, and that makes a difference.

For example, in my home state (in the US), if the police believe that they have evidence of a crime, they can make an arrest, even if the supposed victim says that they don't want to press charges, or insists that nothing happened. And if the prosecuting attorney believes that he or she has a good enough case to take to court, they can prosecute the crime, whether the victim wants to press charges or not. And I know of other states which have similar laws.

Also, I have no idea why you would suggest that there is no place in the world where they would pursue a rape case when the supposed victim says there was no rape. We currently have a very high profile case in Romania which has been making international news for months now, where a man is being charged with rape and is currently on house arrest, awaiting his trial, and his two supposed victims have both spoken out and stated that there was no rape, and the sex was completely consensual.

Make no mistake, rape charges can be pursued in many jurisdictions, even when the supposed victim doesn't want them pursued.

You mean the guy who's also been charged with human trafficking and money laundering, plus numerous other crimes. It's not exactly your typical rape case is it? Plus you neglected to mention that five other women have also accused him of rape. So I reckon the Romanian police and judicial authorities have plenty of accusers, who have come forward to point the finger at this guy. And they're not as you claim, pursuing criminal charges against this individual, merely because they believe a crime has been committed, but because actual victims have come forward and accused him.

The police can arrest whoever they want, if they believe a crime has been committed. But without proof provided by the victim, medical evidence that a rape has occurred and testimony, or a confession by the perpetrator, it is virtually impossible to convict anybody, since there are usually no other witnesses to the actual crime. In those circumstances it would never be prosecuted, whichever country it is in the world

When I say anywhere in the world. I mean specifically within democratic states, where the police and judiciary, typically are not corrupt. Obviously there are parts of the world, where this is not the case, and evidence and proving a person's guilt are not required to get a conviction.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

If people would just read tags before playing games. Let’s see what we have, there is a RAPE tag, Beastiality, bukkake, group sex, humiliation, sleep sex, multiple penetration, graphic violence, urination. So if your offended by any of these tags, why the fuck are you here playing this game?

 

[Zara Scarlet]

A simple way to avoid high trust. Dump Anthony as early as possible. Don't let Myriam take part in some extreme sex acts ( avoid all the threesomes/ gangbangs and stop Cassius from doing what he wants). Make sure she doesn't get drunk or take drugs. Put Marc in his place early on. Get rid of the briefcase or take it to the police as soon as possible. Ignore the Priest. If a choice adds trust, scroll back and try to choose another one. If a choice reduces trust, try to select it. If you do those things, your trust score will never get high, and will tend to get lower over time.

Generally, if you allow Myriam to follow a submissive path she'll have higher trust. Whereas, if you allow her to follow a more dominant one, she'll tend to have much less.

 

[TomUK]

If people would just read tags before playing games. Let’s see what we have, there is a RAPE tag, Beastiality, bukkake, group sex, humiliation, sleep sex, multiple penetration, graphic violence, urination. So if your offended by any of these tags, why the fuck are you here playing this game?

And all are avoidable.

 

[jstreet]

And all are avoidable.

Well sadly a few tags aren't avoidable the graphic violence and humiliation. Since those tag's are tied to Anthony and meeting a few other characters.

 

[TomUK]

A simple way to avoid high trust. Dump Anthony as early as possible. Don't let Myriam take part in some extreme sex acts ( avoid all the threesomes/ gangbangs and stop Cassius from doing what he wants). Make sure she doesn't get drunk or take drugs. Put Marc in his place early on. Get rid of the briefcase or take it to the police as soon as possible. Ignore the Priest. If a choice adds trust, scroll back and try to choose another one. If a choice reduces trust, try to select it. If you do those things, your trust score will never get high, and will tend to get lower over time.

Generally, if you allow Myriam to follow a submissive path she'll have higher trust. Whereas, if you allow her to follow a more dominant one, she'll tend to have much less.

Not entirely sure that's true, I don't think you get any trust score with Anthony or if you do it isn't that much, you get more trust score from people like Marc, believing he is innocent when he isn't, the cops can give trust points, even Eve and the shrink, in fact I think you can get trust points from everyone except Anthony.

 

[TomUK]

Well sadly a few tags aren't avoidable the graphic violence and humiliation. Since those tag's are tied to Anthony and meeting a few other characters.

And that pretty much sets the tone of the relationship with Anthony, but other than Anthony, every tag is basically avoidable, even a lot of the stuff with Anthony can be avoided except maybe the violence when he doesn't get his way.

 

[jstreet]

And that pretty much sets the tone of the relationship with Anthony, but other than Anthony, every tag is basically avoidable, even a lot of the stuff with Anthony can be avoided except maybe the violence when he doesn't get his way.

What about when you meet Lucy and meeting Aiden for the second time (it's not like when Anthony does it but it's still violence towards Myriam).

 

[Zorlun]

Well sadly a few tags aren't avoidable the graphic violence and humiliation. Since those tag's are tied to Anthony and meeting a few other characters.

What about when you meet Lucy and meeting Aiden for the second time (it's not like when Anthony does it but it's still violence towards Myriam).

Well, at some point something has to happen as well in the game, or else better sit in front of a wall and look at it all day.

Most if not all of the sex is avoidable to let people fap in peace to whatever they want (depending of choice of course), but after that yes, shit will happen in the game, otherwise better just implementing a menu of sex scenes at the start of the game and cut all the rest.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I wish there had been a "topless" option here. what would have changed for the story? Nothing. so two minutes later Myrian drank 1 liter of cum. so I don't see the problem in flashing two boobs to strangers

 

[TomUK]

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I wish there had been a "topless" option here. what would have changed for the story? Nothing. so two minutes later Myrian drank 1 liter of cum. so I don't see the problem in flashing two boobs to strangers

The only way she 'drinks a litre of cum' is if she doesn't take her hand off the black dudes cock.

 

[TomUK]

What about when you meet Lucy and meeting Aiden for the second time (it's not like when Anthony does it but it's still violence towards Myriam).

I'd say those 2 scenarios could be called violent intent rather than straight violence as both get stopped pretty quickly and both situations were there to introduce something, also both giving Myriam another excuse to meet Detective Anderson, still wondering if Zorlun is going to take that anywhere.

 

[Chris_Vader]

Update Walkthrough please

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Not entirely sure that's true, I don't think you get any trust score with Anthony or if you do it isn't that much, you get more trust score from people like Marc, believing he is innocent when he isn't, the cops can give trust points, even Eve and the shrink, in fact I think you can get trust points from everyone except Anthony.

Anthony accounts for about a fifth of the Trust points, before Myriam dumps him. The biggest gain is when she decides to accept his story after discovering Kimberly giving him a blowjob. If you decide to get rid of him at this point, Myriam has 6 less Trust points, by the time Kimberly knocks on her door.

There are also people, like Edward and Dave, who Myriam decides to trust, because they are in fact trustworthy. And quite a few trust points will be added by people like this, that you can't affect. But if you follow what I said above, Myriam's trust score won't go up too much, and you'll eventually get opportunities to reduce it .

 

[john984]

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I wish there had been a "topless" option here. what would have changed for the story? Nothing. so two minutes later Myrian drank 1 liter of cum. so I don't see the problem in flashing two boobs to strangers

As someone else said a few pages back, it would have been awesome if in the scene Myriam decides to take her clothes off to take a swim far from them. Then, they hide her clothes and "blackmail" her if she wants it back

Edit: Maybe it can happen with the peeping kids in the forest

 

[ouch2020]

total and proper use of ALL her mental faculties" to give that "consent"... Therefore, if a woman is under the influence of ANY substance that diminishes her mental abilities (drugs, alcohol, etc) can be considered a "rape" even if she consents to that act.

Actually, if you are in USA, that is exactly the kind of situation that would fall under the "sexual assault" (which typically has lower penalties, AFAIK), as you mentioned before, rather than rape .
Though of course if you are the one that made her so drank she did not really understand what she was doing, could still be argued as rape, and anyway, I may be wrong, but there have been cases when the level of alcohol was not zero, yet they were not ruled as rape or sexual assault, because she had consented or even taken the initiative, and never said "no".

This subject already came out, and there is one element in which, game or reality is for sure the same in many, if not most, jurisdictions (I would say most, but now I am referring to the World, not to USA, just to be clear).
Either she decides to call it rape and report it as such, or whatever the law can say become in reality useless.

Which goes back, in "our" erotic fantasy game, to the point that insofar as Myriam does not call it or see it of think about it as rape and report it as such, we can call it what we want, but for her, it is not rape, even if people exploit her trust, push her everaging her being submissive, etc. (and by the way, all these are choices the player, thus Myriam, has to do, even if other time naturally build up and become an inclination for her).

The only two cases that we can see she consider as rape, sexual assault, or whatever we prefer to call it, can be considered Anthony, at least past a certain point (though admittedly we do not see her report it as rape or sexual assault in itself), and the criminal in the park, both cases where she does take actions against the culprit (or suspect, if you prefer ).

Though it is funny to see how some points and debates come back from time to time - but at least, this one did not get in a flaming rampage :-D

 

[ouch2020]

If people would just read tags before playing games. Let’s see what we have, there is a RAPE tag, Beastiality, bukkake, group sex, humiliation, sleep sex, multiple penetration, graphic violence, urination. So if your offended by any of these tags, why the fuck are you here playing this game?

Additional note, actually, safe for a bit with Anthony at the start, it is possible to avoid basically any and all situations in which Myriam is being pushed around or somehow forced, or too drank to control herself. A "full nun"round is not possible, true, but it can get not too far from it (though it would make for a very fast game through, IMHO )

 

[ouch2020]

I'd say those 2 scenarios could be called violent intent rather than straight violence as both get stopped pretty quickly and both situations were there to introduce something, also both giving Myriam another excuse to meet Detective Anderson, still wondering if Zorlun is going to take that anywhere.

Well, first one could be considered attempted rape, by the words and actions of the guy, the second, if I remember well, indeed does not have any explicit sexual content because it is blocked too early (but again, I may remember wrong what the guy says).