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EDIT: I must say, it's crazy to see how many people made that specific choice of pushing Myriam into servicing Jarvis, I really thought it was a very small niche choice, or maybe I'm just surprised because people are more vocal about it in their own surprise about this specific 'bad' ending... :unsure:
I enjoyed the Jarvis content and never imagined it'd have such an extreme effect on totally unrelated content. I finally just grabbed a mod to change my variables.
 

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A very minor criticism that I can make about this update is the "A few months later" thingy. I mean my Myriam got dicked down left right and center, it felt off for me tho, do I have to believe that she can go down a few months without action? Couldn't be my Myriam.
Cold turkey .. the best way to get clean, in her case it would be quite literally :D
 

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I've just been playing it and trying out a lot of saves from a variety of events, and I'm constantly getting the third ending, the "Broken" one. The truth is, with aaaall the playthroughs and the number of saves I have, I don't know what to do anymore (I don't find some of the clues that people was saying), and I'd be dying if I had to start one from scratch... Phew! o_O

I'll keep trying, but it seems like a rather grim way to end the story like this (too much contrast), and the mechanics for reaching this branching plot are a bit complicated. But as I said, I'll keep trying options, but enough for today.
 
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I've just been playing it and trying out a lot of saves from a variety of events, and I'm constantly getting the third ending, the "Broken" one. The truth is, with aaaall the playthroughs and the number of saves I have, I don't know what to do anymore (I don't find some of the clues that people was saying), and I'd be dying if I had to start one from scratch... Phew! o_O

I'll keep trying, but it seems like a rather grim way to end the story like this (too much contrast), and the mechanics for reaching this branching plot are a bit complicated. But as I said, I'll keep trying options, but enough for today.
I can't avoid the myriam's kidnapped, and no matter what I choose, all the ways ends in game over, help !!
So like Zorlun said you either use mods that fuck with your stats or you did not solve the issue with Jarvis.

I let her get help from Bill and never saw any bad ending.
 

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I enjoyed the Jarvis content and never imagined it'd have such an extreme effect on totally unrelated content. I finally just grabbed a mod to change my variables.
I've just been playing it and trying out a lot of saves from a variety of events, and I'm constantly getting the third ending, the "Broken" one. The truth is, with aaaall the playthroughs and the number of saves I have, I don't know what to do anymore (I don't find some of the clues that people was saying), and I'd be dying if I had to start one from scratch... Phew! o_O

I'll keep trying, but it seems like a rather grim way to end the story like this (too much contrast), and the mechanics for reaching this branching plot are a bit complicated. But as I said, I'll keep trying options, but enough for today.
Copy/paste of the answer to the problem you're probably having, 'bad' ending 3, with first the probable reasons, either:
- Bad ratio of 'Sadness'/'Happiness'.
- Not having solved the Jarvis problem and ending up morally broken by him as Myriam chose to service him to avoid more trouble.
The first case is hard to get honestly, so I would look into the second one, which in this case you just have to load an older save and solve the Jarvis problem on the first or second occasion, either by not giving in into his bullying; asking for help with one of the cops (if you're romancing him); using his son Bill to get help; or even fully ignore the problem.
I can't avoid the myriam's kidnapped, and no matter what I choose, all the ways ends in game over, help !!
Being kidnapped is unavoidable, it happens at the end of chapter 5, but there is ways to escape after this or being rescued (if you talked to the Detective), the easiest way to go, none dependent on stat, Myriam can play possum and try to break her wrist to escape the chains; you can also get help from Dumdum if you're not too forceful; or you can use your teeth at the good time with Buck in last resort; or in last last resort be rescued in the end (if detective Dave has been made aware of the motel family by Myriam).

If you're trouble is after being rescued/escaping you're ending up broken, refer to my previous answer, it's probably due to that pesky Jarvis.
The latest game development idea, "actions have consequences," is coming soon as DLC to all games.
I always have been clear on this, I focus on choices and some has consequences... And notably with Jarvis, I insisted that his choices would have ramification, but I can't deny that the game do not make it clear enough, I'll probably have to go have a little rewrite on this so that at least players can pinpoint the problem.
 

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Apparently, I made good decisions, because my Miriam is home and in good shape, apart from the nightmares. Consequently, I got into the path

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without "bending" any variables. Now she has (almost) a free choice:

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If we're having fun... Will there be an ending where Myriam lives in the countryside with a bunch of dogs, horses, pigs and other animals? Or some kind of fantasy ending with aliens?

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I'll have to look later, but I think one of the endings is working at the vet clinic. (My wishlist: She's been pretty exploratory with Evelyn -- it would seem a natural progression to include her in this activity.)
 
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It is perhaps surprising to some that this is a game where the protagonist can be constantly getting gang raped and that's apparently fine, she keeps coming up fresh as a daisy, but that one bad choice has so sweeping consequences.

I didn't get any of that on my playthrough because I don't make those choices, but I can understand players being taken aback given the general slant of the game.
 

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Copy/paste of the answer to the problem you're probably having, 'bad' ending 3, with first the probable reasons, either:
- Bad ratio of 'Sadness'/'Happiness'.
- Not having solved the Jarvis problem and ending up morally broken by him as Myriam chose to service him to avoid more trouble.
The first case is hard to get honestly, so I would look into the second one, which in this case you just have to load an older save and solve the Jarvis problem on the first or second occasion, either by not giving in into his bullying; asking for help with one of the cops (if you're romancing him); using his son Bill to get help; or even fully ignore the problem.

Being kidnapped is unavoidable, it happens at the end of chapter 5, but there is ways to escape after this or being rescued (if you talked to the Detective), the easiest way to go, none dependent on stat, Myriam can play possum and try to break her wrist to escape the chains; you can also get help from Dumdum if you're not too forceful; or you can use your teeth at the good time with Buck in last resort; or in last last resort be rescued in the end (if detective Dave has been made aware of the motel family by Myriam).

If you're trouble is after being rescued/escaping you're ending up broken, refer to my previous answer, it's probably due to that pesky Jarvis.

I always have been clear on this, I focus on choices and some has consequences... And notably with Jarvis, I insisted that his choices would have ramification, but I can't deny that the game do not make it clear enough, I'll probably have to go have a little rewrite on this so that at least players can pinpoint the problem.
I don't know if you can/want already answer this question, but I am curious how much content realistically is left for a certain path.

So I am mainly interested in the ending with Nubia. With this choice available in the last frame of the last update, will there be one more scene with maybe the extent of the Scene where Antony offers Myriam to his colleagues or the museum gala that ended with the scene in the limo and then it's over? Or will there be more like 2-3 smaller scenes? Just to get an idea if you would like to talk about it already.

Thanks very much in advance my friend!
 

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It is perhaps surprising to some that this is a game where the protagonist can be constantly getting gang raped and that's apparently fine, she keeps coming up fresh as a daisy, but that one bad choice has so sweeping consequences.

I didn't get any of that on my playthrough because I don't make those choices, but I can understand players being taken aback given the general slant of the game.
The general slant of the game was never to break Myriam morally, most of the naughty scenes, even if rough, have her enjoying the time, there is few plot line where it's not so pleasant, Jarvis was one of them, pushing her to be morally broken if pushed to fail until the end.

But for sure, I understand the surprise that some had, even if I kind of warned on this since a while, it was definitely not clear enough and did not come with enough big red warnings, and that's definitely on me, I just really thought that this line of choice was a very niche one.

I'll probably add a little possible save with a high 'willpower' stat (only on the Jarvis choice, not on the bad ratio), it would be a good use of the stat first, and would give a little diversity on runs, though I don't think it would offer much of change for people that go mostly for those choices for Myriam as they would be the most likely to have a low 'willpower' stat. ^^
I don't know if you can/want already answer this question, but I am curious how much content realistically is left for a certain path.

So I am mainly interested in the ending with Nubia. With this choice available in the last frame of the last update, will there be one more scene with maybe the extent of the Scene where Antony offers Myriam to his colleagues or the museum gala that ended with the scene in the limo and then it's over? Or will there be more like 2-3 smaller scenes? Just to get an idea if you would like to talk about it already.

Thanks very much in advance my friend!
Hard to say for now, big endings will probably have around 2/3+ scenes while the smaller ones will probably be more around the 1/2 scenes.
Not counting multiple possible iterations (like for Nubia and the last choice there was on her last scene), which would add a little more.
 
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