VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. End.01a+p] [Zorlun]

[Viressa]

Even on the sub route, I was really happy when I was given no option for Anthony to disappear from the game. I mean really he's no loss even on the sub route. There are far better options for Myriam to submit to. But now I learn he's coming back. I mean why? Apart from the dubious pleasure of possibly seeing Myriam flatten him with her newly discovered martial skills. Beyond the custody battle what can he add to the game? That every other of the games numerous characters can do much better?

If this game has one thing I can criticize, it's lack of focus: Unlike AWAM there's lots of sexual content for the length but it's spread very thinly amongst a large cast of characters. IIRC only William, Marc, Anthony, and Cassius have more than a single scene, and many of the other characters (like Nubia) have literally nothing. It feels like the author is including every conceivable character archetype one could possibly encounter to have sex with in a female protagonist game.

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

If this game has one thing I can criticize, it's lack of focus: Unlike AWAM there's lots of sexual content for the length but it's spread very thinly amongst a large cast of characters. IIRC only William, Marc, Anthony, and Cassius have more than a single scene, and many of the other characters (like Nubia) have literally nothing. It feels like the author is including every conceivable character archetype one could possibly encounter to have sex with in a female protagonist game.

Nubia will have more scenes coming soon said Zorlun, so will Aiden (prankster from the store) & the French fashion guy in near future

 

[JaxMan]

What I don't agree with is how subs are shown in most of these games where there is a female protagonist, whether she is corrupted or decides willingly. They are usually treated as pieces of meat, debased, demeaned and abused. That isn't necessarily how sub/dom relationships work. I'd like to see Myriam as a sub, especially if she has high confidence, that is truly a willing participant and the dom be someone who has her explore her role as a sub in a more positive way.

Encouraging her to show off/public exposure with or without public sex. Or engage in group activities without having to be drunk/drugged. She should not have to have an abusive dom to do some of her kinks. Mix it up so if someone doesn't want to have her abused, but enjoys certain kinks they still can.

Maybe I'm different. I would rather have her do a blow bang because she likes it and enjoys doing it and the men appreciate it and not degrade her or be forced into it. Same with group sex or public sex. Doesn't mean the other path isn't there just that an alternate, more cooperative path is there with other doms partners . I figured that was a reason to raise certain kinks for her to be able to do those things.

 

[JaxMan]

Check the wt mod is really the latest. Just saying that, because I remember it was updated, but the previous one, was effectively ending at the end of 3.03b, which corresponds to your description.

That's the version I've been playing. I'll download again and see if that corrects it. Could be the initial dl had a glitch.

edit: I misread your post. Yes, it apparently was the wt. I thought I had read it was updated to latest version. I had just dl'd everything a few days ago to start playing. I'll check to see if the wt was updated since than.

 

[Pogo123]

Just to point out different tastes since I read quite a lot of comments who like her not-son, her ex, bestiality and school stuff I wanna say I enjoy those the least personally. My fav scenarios so far are:

- her not-daughter
- hobo
- crazy fantasy encounters with monsters/aliens/dwarves/gobzombies
- the potential routes she can take for a job (especially prison and retirement home)
- old crazy neighbour and his weird son

just wanted to throw that out since I read so often the other stuff mentioned as if all just want these scenes/characters.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

If this game has one thing I can criticize, it's lack of focus: Unlike AWAM there's lots of sexual content for the length but it's spread very thinly amongst a large cast of characters. IIRC only William, Marc, Anthony, and Cassius have more than a single scene, and many of the other characters (like Nubia) have literally nothing. It feels like the author is including every conceivable character archetype one could possibly encounter to have sex with in a female protagonist game.

Yeah, but from now on, other characters will start to have more than one scene. I'm guessing there won't be too many new characters added beyond this point in the game. And Anthony for instance is unlikely to get anymore sex scenes, and until his custody battle is settled Marc's opportunities will be more limited. So more room for more characters in future updates

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Just to point out different tastes since I read quite a lot of comments who like her not-son, her ex, bestiality and school stuff I wanna say I enjoy those the least personally. My fav scenarios so far are:

- her not-daughter
- hobo
- crazy fantasy encounters with monsters/aliens/dwarves/gobzombies
- the potential routes she can take for a job (especially prison and retirement home)
- old crazy neighbour and his weird son

just wanted to throw that out since I read so often the other stuff mentioned as if all just want these scenes/characters.

Actually, Katherine is still Myriam's Daughter. The relationships that changed were Anthony ( husband to boyfriend), Marc ( son to boyfriend's son) and Evelyn ( sister to best friend)

And talking about weird encounters. How about Myriam gets thrust into an alternate game reality, the world of 'A Wife and Mother' and everyone mistakes her for Sophia. But being in a world where the female protagonist only gets to tease and never have sex with anybody, proves to be the ultimate nightmare for a slut like Myriam

 

[Deleted member 3586865]

- the potential routes she can take for a job (especially prison and retirement home)

Did i miss the prison? The retirement home is pretty nice.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Did i miss the prison? The retirement home is pretty nice.

They haven't happened yet. There were three choices you could make for Myriam to do charitable work, given to her by Lucy after they take Bobo to hospital. The Prison option was the third choice. Zorlun says this content will begin after the next two updates

 

[ouch2020]

Yes, i agree.
Though, i think i really should try to play it in the dominant direction. I am curious where it will lead her. she has options and not become a fucktoy. Its the same way that i avoided the lesbian part mostly.

Played a bit with the lesbian, did the dom only in part, to test the incest patch was working OK and had not forgotten it, and to make sure the dialogue with the doctor about incest did have an adequate text (one thing is if she is submissive, another, if she is dom, even if it is always incest).

I am not sure about the doctor though. Yes, he would "in the real world" help her. Though i am not sure if he really is doing that. I have the gut feeling that he has some sinister plans of its own. So i am not really sure.

Hmm, it is true that Zorlun made the good doctor think/say something like "careful with this one".
On the other hand, Zorlun has also indicated that not all the characters (especially, but not only, males) Myriam is meeting, are potential sex partners or are going to try to get in her panties (this also addresses one of your considerations), and it's true it's a game, but doing that, in principle would cost him the possibility to practice.

I think if you answer in certain ways, it makes or would make sense to me that the character kind of automatically does certain things. If that makes sense. So what i am saying is more a general opinion on the games as a whole and not this specific game.

Well, can agree in general, but in a way, you already mentioned yourself, it depends also how deep you are. If you are very deep, e.g. already took a number of choices in the same direction, than you may end up agreeing automatically (effectively, in some cases the menu shows the option, but you cannot choose it).
Otherwise, you may still be able to say "no", but it may be a weaker "no" (a bit like Myriam in some situations could say no, and then yes anyway).
It's part of the evolution of the character, how deep she goes in some stuff, maybe cornering herself in it - it is also true that as you say, it is a game, not a psychology study , Zorlun has done more than many in that direction, but we are not here to take a course on psychology and/or on how to provide counselling, we are here to play an erotic (or should I say porn) game

 

[Deleted member 3586865]

They haven't happened yet. There were three choices you could make for Myriam to do charitable work, given to her by Lucy after they take Bobo to hospital. The Prison option was the third choice. Zorlun says this content will begin after the next two updates

Ah ok. Because i did not remember that there was an option for it.
Getting already excited.

 

[Deleted member 3586865]

It's part of the evolution of the character, how deep she goes in some stuff, maybe cornering herself in it - it is also true that as you say, it is a game, not a psychology study , Zorlun has done more than many in that direction, but we are not here to take a course on psychology and/or on how to provide counselling, we are here to play an erotic (or should I say porn) game

Yes, you are so right. I do not think that there are many games, that go that direction. Its really refreshing and so naughty at the same time.
I mean, i haven't played a real romantic game at all. So i can not compare how much electricity flows through the vein if you do.
But as far for this game, its great.

Its a porn/fantasy game with lots of fetishes.

 

[dolfe67]

Even on the sub route, I was really happy when I was given no option for Anthony to disappear from the game. I mean really he's no loss even on the sub route. There are far better options for Myriam to submit to. But now I learn he's coming back. I mean why? Apart from the dubious pleasure of possibly seeing Myriam flatten him with her newly discovered martial skills. Beyond the custody battle what can he add to the game? That every other of the games numerous characters can do much better?

What are the better options for Myriam to submit to? Some people want a more healthy dom/sub relationship, but I liked the way she was treated by her husband. It's just a game, IRL he should be forbidden to approach a woman.

If this game has one thing I can criticize, it's lack of focus: Unlike AWAM there's lots of sexual content for the length but it's spread very thinly amongst a large cast of characters. IIRC only William, Marc, Anthony, and Cassius have more than a single scene, and many of the other characters (like Nubia) have literally nothing. It feels like the author is including every conceivable character archetype one could possibly encounter to have sex with in a female protagonist game.

I agree with you except about AWAM : it's as unfocus as Project Myriam and with a large cast too, you don't see all of them often. And AWAM doesn't have sex and is a lot slower to update (though better graphics)

 

[ouch2020]

Or engage in group activities without having to be drunk/drugged. She should not have to have an abusive dom to do some of her kinks. Mix it up so if someone doesn't want to have her abused, but enjoys certain kinks they still can.

Actually, there is already something like that. Play 3.04a, if you look well, she may decide to do something in a certain way, without getting wasted. And even before, in more than one opportunity, she can decide to do stuff, e.g. at the massage, with Cassius, with Hammer, with Charles, even if she is not wasted.
On the other hand, it is actually very realistic that for some time, a bit of alcohol, even without being completely unable to stand, makes Myriam lose her inhibitions more easily, and she uses that mean.
Despite the sex with Anthony, she is kind of innocent and even naive, she does stuff but feels guity about it, depending on your choices, even confesses to the priest submitting to his authority (and more, if trust is high enough) because she feels guilt .
She needs the sessions to start feeling less guilty about her desires and exploring them.
Many women will get a bit tipsy (not completely waisted, though some do) to "find the courage" (effectively, redure their rational self control) to try stuff they may be unsure about, at least the first times.
Annoying when you are a guy who does not "do drank", even if they are not really wasted, but that's life.

 

[ouch2020]

The incest laws only really have any relevance, when it involves cases of non-consent. Either rape of adults or involving minors. I guess between consenting adults, it virtually never results in prosecution.

That depends from the country or state, and if in a certain jurisdiction it is considered a crime against the person, against "morality", or in another distinction, prosecution only by complaint of the damaged party, or automatic by statute.
I would agree that in most cases it is prosecuted linked to other crimes, but there have been cases of prosecution "as is" - again, it depends on the specific jurisdiction, which means, country and/or state.
UK and USA are not the only countries in the World, although I think someone pointed out most people on F95 are from USA.

 

[Zorlun]

With virtually everyone else, dominance works in a different way. Myriam is not the kind of woman who wants to dominate her sexual partners in the same way Anthony does. Dominance just makes her more proactive in sexual situations. More likely to take the initiative rather than let things happen, and not as willing to be persuaded to do stuff, that she doesn't feel comfortable with. If you have high dominance, certain options that Myriam's submissive self has, just don't become available. And that's especially the case if you have high willpower as well. In general there are less sex scenes at the moment for a Dominant Myriam, but I suspect that will even out over the course of the game.

Yes, Myriam is only discovering a willpower she didn't knew she had, so for now, her dominance is limited, but yes, at first her character is more a submissive one for sure.

If this game has one thing I can criticize, it's lack of focus: Unlike AWAM there's lots of sexual content for the length but it's spread very thinly amongst a large cast of characters. IIRC only William, Marc, Anthony, and Cassius have more than a single scene, and many of the other characters (like Nubia) have literally nothing. It feels like the author is including every conceivable character archetype one could possibly encounter to have sex with in a female protagonist game.

I understand the comment and it's partly true, I said at the beginning that this project was very experimental to me, on every front, even the way I write it, I wanted explore a lot of kinks and characters to see what could be done, what was interesting (for me or others), both plot wise and technically (you wouldn't believe how much I had to refrain myself sometimes because the resources were not exciting out there or because I lacked the skills to do a scene like I wanted).
Clearly I have way to go on every front, I can't deny it, but I wanted that shot gun blast of plot lines, kinks and characters, to experiment as well as test my self and what can be done in a game.

What I don't agree with is how subs are shown in most of these games where there is a female protagonist, whether she is corrupted or decides willingly. They are usually treated as pieces of meat, debased, demeaned and abused. That isn't necessarily how sub/dom relationships work. I'd like to see Myriam as a sub, especially if she has high confidence, that is truly a willing participant and the dom be someone who has her explore her role as a sub in a more positive way.

Encouraging her to show off/public exposure with or without public sex. Or engage in group activities without having to be drunk/drugged. She should not have to have an abusive dom to do some of her kinks. Mix it up so if someone doesn't want to have her abused, but enjoys certain kinks they still can.

Maybe I'm different. I would rather have her do a blow bang because she likes it and enjoys doing it and the men appreciate it and not degrade her or be forced into it. Same with group sex or public sex. Doesn't mean the other path isn't there just that an alternate, more cooperative path is there with other doms partners . I figured that was a reason to raise certain kinks for her to be able to do those things.

Yes, the dom/sub play shown for now was made by bullies, so it's crude and brutal, but there will be some different exploration of the kink with other characters, like Nubia (museum), Charles (business man) and also Danny (officer), even with a reversed side, with Myriam as a dom with Kimberley (Anthony's victim).

 

[ouch2020]

Agree with your post but if they go to court Myriams father is the owner of the company, so I’m pretty sure he’s got the best lawyers working for him already for Myriam to use, & with his power I’m sure he could even pay off other good lawyers not to take assholes case.

Why take the risk to bribe his lawyers ?
Anthony has been defined a narcissist. A narcissist is first of all focused on his or her image - he already got a kick on that.
It is sufficient to make it so that there is enough pubblicity of the thing, without of course getting into a "libelling" situation, so his local reputation is burnt, while allowing him to move away getting a clean slate ("golden bridges to the enemy who runs", says an old phrase).
If he sees no chance to fight back, he will go where nobody know about it and he can sell his version, maybe even present himself as a victim, getting lot of attention in that way.
Could be one way, without invoking a "deus ex machina" like car incident, heart attack, etc.

 

[Spfjolietjake]

Yes, Myriam is only discovering a willpower she didn't knew she had, so for now, her dominance is limited, but yes, at first her character is more a submissive one for sure.

I understand the comment and it's partly true, I said at the beginning that this project was very experimental to me, on every front, even the way I write it, I wanted explore a lot of kinks and characters to see what could be done, what was interesting (for me or others), both plot wise and technically (you wouldn't believe how much I had to refrain myself sometimes because the resources were not exciting out there or because I lacked the skills to do a scene like I wanted).
Clearly I have way to go on every front, I can't deny it, but I wanted that shot gun blast of plot lines, kinks and characters, to experiment as well as test my self and what can be done in a game.

Yes, the dom/sub play shown for now was made by bullies, so it's crude and brutal, but there will be some different exploration of the kink with other characters, like Nubia (museum), Charles (business man) and also Danny (officer), even with a reversed side, with Myriam as a dom with Kimberley (Anthony's victim).

Yeah I don't want my Myriam to have willpower or to dominate

Seriously great job on writing Anthony it shows on how many players hate him. I take solace in that he will have a "happy" ending all his own.

 

[Viressa]

What are the better options for Myriam to submit to? Some people want a more healthy dom/sub relationship, but I liked the way she was treated by her husband. It's just a game, IRL he should be forbidden to approach a woman.


I agree with you except about AWAM : it's as unfocus as Project Myriam and with a large cast too, you don't see all of them often. And AWAM doesn't have sex and is a lot slower to update (though better graphics)

Oh yeah, AWAM has the same issue too, on top of being only teasing and no actual scenes. The "unlike AWAM" referred to the density of content vs filler.

(The one point I'll give AWAM over the game is the Ellie shower kiss scene, which is just *chef kiss.* This game can't match that because Zorlun has decided on no Katherine content. Otherwise, this game is better than AWAM in every way, imho.)

 

[JaxMan]

Actually, there is already something like that. Play 3.04a, if you look well, she may decide to do something in a certain way, without getting wasted. And even before, in more than one opportunity, she can decide to do stuff, e.g. at the massage, with Cassius, with Hammer, with Charles, even if she is not wasted.
On the other hand, it is actually very realistic that for some time, a bit of alcohol, even without being completely unable to stand, makes Myriam lose her inhibitions more easily, and she uses that mean.
Despite the sex with Anthony, she is kind of innocent and even naive, she does stuff but feels guity about it, depending on your choices, even confesses to the priest submitting to his authority (and more, if trust is high enough) because she feels guilt .
She needs the sessions to start feeling less guilty about her desires and exploring them.
Many women will get a bit tipsy (not completely waisted, though some do) to "find the courage" (effectively, redure their rational self control) to try stuff they may be unsure about, at least the first times.
Annoying when you are a guy who does not "do drank", even if they are not really wasted, but that's life.

My comment was also about how she is treated when in those situations. Yes, alcohol can be used to loosen inhibitions that are there. In most of the group situations Myriam is taken to the point of almost unconsciousness and then taken advantage of. All the men treated her with disrespect, demeaning and abuse. Surely, some times she can be in a position where it happens organically and with more considerate men.

The sauna was somewhat different and I noticed that it didn't count as group kink for her stats.

I only did the confession to see what it did, all other times I choose ignore. I don't like playing a female mc who is that vapid and submissive to the point of a doormat.