Unity Completed Project Sena [v1.301] [Huuuuge]

[Princeslayer]

If you know the developer why not help and make a change? maybe introduce him to F95 get him to make his own thread about the game and maybe ask him about certain things, you my friend could make a change by simply either inviting him over here or being a messanger.
seriously tho this entire situation could be avoided if the developer was here answering questions or certain concerns about the game

Don't get me wrong, I'm already trying to tell him/them anything about many of the things that I read that are reasonable, I don't know(but probably be wouldn't lik it so much) what can he say to a proposal of coming here, he's already trying to work hard to have this done as soon as possible because it's mostly finished and when he isn't working it's talking(rarely, it's not so active) on their Discord server that I think the link is in the first page of this thread like everything else and also that they're Japanese people that knows to type/respond in English fairly well but not being the best a it. So having to be in 2 places for the same thing could be a bit difficult(also considering this is a pirating site) to achieve the request, but I'll ask him nonetheless, Who knows .

 

[I HAVE NO IDEA!!]

Don't get me wrong, I'm already trying to tell him/them anything about many of the things that I read that are reasonable, I don't know(but probably be wouldn't lik it so much) what can he say to a proposal of coming here, he's already trying to work hard to have this done as soon as possible because it's mostly finished and when he isn't working it's talking(rarely, it's not so active) on their Discord server that I think the link is in the first page of this thread like everything else and also that they're Japanese people that knows to type/respond in English fairly well but not being the best a it. So having to be in 2 places for the same thing could be a bit difficult(also considering this is a pirating site) to achieve the request, but I'll ask him nonetheless, Who knows .

wait, in your original message you said something about the game still being incomplete, why is it saying it's the full release then is the dev planning more updates?

 

[Princeslayer]

wait, in your original message you said something about the game still being incomplete, why is it saying it's the full release then is the dev planning more updates?

Because one thing is what you initially intend or plan to do and another thing is what may come out through A or Z and that you have to do more than planned because of it. For that is that he will be making some fixes for bugs(like the key binding problem that is already revised) or few additions of things that could be lacking.

 

[d2cmp]

So do you get anything for beating Luna when you load the all clear save?, it was a good game for me lots of tentacles, huge penetrations and other scenes that i liked and the voice acting was on point, i just wished you had a bit of invulnerability while recovering and there were less stuff hidden in pits you cant climb back up

 

[oldspeak]

Take a step back, take a breather and read the criticisms without wearing your emotions on your sleeve. You say you are a friend of the developer, so by you throwing a temper tantrum in here only make you all look worse, like children who can't handle criticism. There are going to be comments here that will not be insightful, crude, shortsighted or a language barrier. But like any social media or forums, is knowing basic 101 what to take seriously and what to take with a grain of salt.

And the game is "complete". The game is fully out for purchase. That by definition is complete.
Except it isn't. You couldn't talk to the last two new female chars even though the option is there for you to choose. The game is such a buggy mess, it could use more time debugging and smooth out before releasing it. All process that should be handle during the alpha or beta phase. Forgiveness for an indie dev can only be given so much, when they release a product in such a state, charge people for it, get angry at people to for criticisizing it, when is well within all their rights to do so. Just blatantly painting everyone comment as "hate" is such a twitter moment.

Yours for example it's a good one, you have a better argument than others that don't even say things like how to make it look or be better, just throwing hate on the things they didn't like being really annoying to read and yes, probably I'm trying to defend them because one of them is my friend and it isn't here to respond anyone or have any possible defense or solve many other doubts. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but if you only say what could be bad for you( or in a more general way if more people say it) and don't take into account what is good to, there's no balance and that's not helping at all either. I'm the first who tries mostly of giving them more ideas or letting them know if something could be out of place and for that I probably took I a bit personally too, because more or less I'm a bit involved in the project too lending a hand ✋.

 

[Princeslayer]

Take a step back, take a breather and read the criticisms without wearing your emotions on your sleeve. You say you are a friend of the developer, so by you throwing a temper tantrum in here only make you all look worse, like children who can't handle criticism. There are going to be comments here that will not be insightful, crude, shortsighted or a language barrier. But like any social media or forums, is knowing basic 101 what to take seriously and what to take with a grain of salt.

And the game is "complete". The game is fully out for purchase. That by definition is complete.
Except it isn't. You couldn't talk to the last two new female chars even though the option is there for you to choose. The game is such a buggy mess, it could use more time debugging and smooth out before releasing it. All process that should be handle during the alpha or beta phase. Forgiveness for an indie dev can only be given so much, when they release a product in such a state, charge people for it, get angry at people to for criticisizing it, when is well within all their rights to do so. Just blatantly painting everyone comment as "hate" is such a twitter moment.

And for that last thing is why I don't have Twitter, is by far the worst social media for this kind of conversations and things in general XD.

 

[OhneHoffnung]

I'm getting sick of reading so many complaints from people who get the game free from here and don't even appreciate the many good things the game has, also that this is their first game and great how they manage to do it in record time with just 2 guys doing it. "Never look a gift horse in the mouth". Enjoy what you have the luck of having here freely.

Just because the game is free here, doesn't mean we can't critique the flaws it has. It's called feedback (as long it is constructive) and helps especially new peeps iron out the mistakes from old games in new products they create.

 

[DickMaster]

TBH I feel you kind of have to lower your standards when it comes to porn games. Most, if not all, of the ones backed by substantial production teams tend to mostly be cookie cutter slice of life VNs consisting of still cg h-scenes that kind of just blend into one another and maybe the latest copypaste job made by Illusion/Illgames.

The rest are, TBH, allot of the slop being posted in these forums; games like Cloud Meadow that feel more incomplete than this game does and is probably never going to have a "full" launch like this did because the patreon money they get from just doing hotfix patches every month is basically giving them all the money they need from doing almost nothing. The glorified Visual Novels made in RPG Maker despite the fact nothing is really done that really justifies the choice of engine. The games that use those horrifically uncanny stock XLNara models or outright stolen porn gifs/pngs for their slop VNs. That's not even mentioning the ones that are almost unplayable.

Only a few half decent porn games manage to get finished every year and half the time you have to be able to tolerate the more niche kinks the dev(s) may focus on that you find cringe.

To be honest, the story could have concluded with the boss of the third stage and the game would still feel like it has the content quantity of an average h-game. If the game didn't hype the players up for a bonus level after beating the game in hard difficulty only for it to be a terribly coded superboss with no real h-scenes to unlock from fighting them and changed the narrative so that things felt a bit more conclusive at the end, with maybe a little tease at a potential sequel if they really wanted to, I feel allot of the complaints would have dissipated.

There was also the issue that the dev basically released what would end up being 95% of the whole game as a crowd funding bonus. I think that if the dev kept maybe at least the third level under wraps, people here would have felt less disappointed.

Overall, I just find it a miracle that this game is even moderately playable and has a good amount of quality, animated h-scenes.

I'm not even going to comment on everything you wrote, but i feel like people have a lot of unjustified hate towards RPG maker games in general. The problem here isn't that RPG maker is somehow janky, crappy program made for children to play with, but rather something that gives you a lot of possibilities even with the default features, but most people don't really know how to use said features let alone to use or make custom scripts where all the real deal is at.

The fact that western devs make really crappy, low effort "games" with it doesn't help either, although there is plenty of that on the japanese side of things as well just not as much. People liking stuff made by Acerola (the most crappy japanese H circle) is something i can't wrap my head around no matter how i might try, and i consider their games the bottom of the barrel tier, the low effort crap that is the equivalent to crap western games using poser models and such, but also badly made and designed slop like Roundscape Ardorevia for example.

I'm really daring someone to tell me that anything made by some western dev is somehow as good as something like Eclipse knight saga.

Yours for example it's a good one, you have a better argument than others that don't even say things like how to make it look or be better, just throwing hate on the things they didn't like being really annoying to read and yes, probably I'm trying to defend them because one of them is my friend and it isn't here to respond anyone or have any possible defense or solve many other doubts. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but if you only say what could be bad for you( or in a more general way if more people say it) and don't take into account what is good to, there's no balance and that's not helping at all either. I'm the first who tries mostly of giving them more ideas or letting them know if something could be out of place and for that I probably took I a bit personally too, because more or less I'm a bit involved in the project too lending a hand ✋.

I feel like i shouldn't even try to have a discussion with you, but at this point you are just full of it to a ridiculous degree. Nobody here was shitting on the game just for the sake of shitting on it, but rather because of the fact that the game shouldn't have been released in the state it's in to begin with.

If you want details i wrote plenty of that in my previous posts in this thread, but i doubt you even bothered to read any of it instead choosing to shit on people who tried to give constructive criticism. Irony much, lol...

As for other things which i didn't write about, well there's plenty of that as well. For starters the fact that there are places in the game where you should be able to get to later on but you can't, because the double jump ability which i assume was planned but was cut out and left for a sequel just isn't there.

Bugs wise i experienced everything from my money and diamond thingies for upgrades disappearing, doubling in number or even going into the negative values on loading the game often bricking my saves permanently because the game sometimes autosaves even over the manual save slots. At some points sena would even get stuck in terrain thus making me have to replay whole sections again. These are just some examples of things that shouldn't happen in any game ever, and this being an indy hentai game isn't an excuse.

Also sylvanus, fuck that guy. Beating him isn't really based on skill but rather on pure luck. If he pulls the most bullshit of nondirectional random bullet patterns out of his ass welp you're toast because sena isn't agile enough to pull of danmaku style grazing in a game that wasn't meant to be a bullet hell in the first place. If he goes with the more directional lasers and such then he is toast instead. What i mean is that he isn't really difficult, he's just annoying and fighting him takes way more time than it rightly should.

And no, i don't need to git gud, i can 1CC all of the touhou games on lunatic difficulty (even the EoSD), and you don't get any more "gud" than that.

To conclude, what i in particular am mad about is that this game has some really good H content, some solid gameplay ideas and a lot of untapped potential, but it is missing a lot of what i can only presume was planned before release.

 

[rockstarme]

thnx

 

[derakino999]

Press "space" than "enter" by the gallery screen! [the first choice!]

but do they not play on game over??
i am just going to pick this game haven't yet btw

also ya criticism is fair, it's good for devs to listen to some and ignore what they don't agree with shrimple as that
as far as the game being complete or not in the sense that all features should work and it shouldn't have nasty bugs, well, like i said i am just gonna pick the game so idk about that

 

[Ai.Miku]

thank you

 

[soloer777]

I am seeing countless walls of text so I wanna ask. How's the game? I was keeping an eye on it then got surprised that it already has the completed tag out of the blue. Last I played was like 0.2 or something.
Like how good the quality of the cgs or something are.

 

[ControlAni]

I tried to enjoy it, but it's really buggy. Multiple times I got stuck unable to move except by using my attacks. Also, changing the keybinds really messed up the keyboard controls, as it doesn't seem to unbind the old commands, so they just stack on top of each other. Tried using a controller, but movement is bound to the analog stick which is insane for a side-scroller.

When it does work, the combat is kind of meh. The hit detection is less than good with enemies regularly moving through my attacks to hit me anyway, but only sometimes for some reason. Not to mention a scene I had to skip because it made no sense, and pissed me off because of it.

 

[Princeslayer]

I am seeing countless walls of text so I wanna ask. How's the game? I was keeping an eye on it then got surprised that it already has the completed tag out of the blue. Last I played was like 0.2 or something.
Like how good the quality of the cgs or something are.

Quality of the h scenes and animations are top, gameplay is more mid but is well playable.

 

[eugeneopkaski]

So do you get anything for beating Luna when you load the all clear save?, it was a good game for me lots of tentacles, huge penetrations and other scenes that i liked and the voice acting was on point, i just wished you had a bit of invulnerability while recovering and there were less stuff hidden in pits you cant climb back up

no

 

[BonkToHJail]

So... Is game complete? Hell nah!
Is game good? Its mediocre at best...
Art and scenes are well made but fight system is fucked.

• What the fuck is this piano of keys. The best set up i was able to make is:
  • Z - jump, X - Dodge, C - Sword, V - Skill 1, Shift - Skill 2, D - pistol, it's cuz you can't change movement keys or Sniper on F, cuz F you! (P.S. Settings are also fucked in the head)
• Game is just annoyng chunks of monsters there and there.
• Your clothes are made out of paper so they will fall apart if someone sneeze at them
• Dogs and most enemies are too damn fast espesially in following tentacle segments
• If you fall, don't even try to get up, monsters will get you faster anyway and can grab you, even if you finished it in time.
• Escape is annoying if its enemy with gang feature, cuz your escape keys will swap to diffrent ones mid typing so you will likely to fk up if you don't collect full combo of gangbang before. And if you fk up you will have to wait whole animation without even second try
• Damn explosive enemies are annoying because of how this game is made. They are always in chunks of enemies which prevents you from using spin attack for fast kills. Also explosion knocks you, so you become easy target.
• Dodge is useless cuz after dodge you can still get hit, its way better to just jump...
• Pistol is useless in most cases cuz enemies are lower or higher on Y axis than your shooting trajectory + you can't crouch
• Spin attack skill does not protect you from dmg and can be stopped by enemy just hitting you which result in use of skill which won't deal any damage nor boost you to direction you are facing
• You can get stuck if hitted at wrong time and will be unable to move until you press any attack button

If game was developed better, enemies would be slower but faster in attacks.
Pistol would be able to shot up and diagonally.
Explosives enemies were more like a trap units which would test your reaction same as dogs which you should shoot with the gun whlie crouching.
Enemies would grapple you to rip clothes then clothes just stop existing cuz someone a damn breeze of wind was a bit strong
Boss attacks would be more stable then RNG based so they would test you, not your luck.
That damn Pussy Rubbing tentacle would not lock you in place cuz you fall from the edge with it, instead you would get timed protection from monster that protecs you from this type of shit
There would be some items to repair clothes or Kits to restore health, because its damn unbearable how game lacks it...

But sadly dev decided that game is fine at its current state and says its Complete when it should have get a little more (Huuuge) amount of work.
☹

 

[PitayaPear]

Completed? Seems like we were at 0.5 just a few months and im betting a lot of the combat still issues are still present. Did they at least fix up the vampire boss and his bullshit touhou bullethell attacks that are a nightmare to dodge?

Anyone else find the incubus fight seem out of place with its bullet hell mechanics?

There is no bullet hell. I honestly like this a lot from the dev, the fight is essentially a bait-and-switch and if you treat it as a bullet hell you will NEVER beat it.

The way you're supposed to fight is to just avoid the initial "bullet hell" with your ultimate, and then pass the minigame. The boss goes afk for like 10 seconds allowing you to kill him for free. Zero bullet hell required.

 

[PitayaPear]

Also all the complaining about hotkeys on this thread really reminded me how difficult life was before I discovered the wonders of AutoHotKey Dash. The arrow buttons on my crappy Laptop are broken, which is what led me to discover it out of necessity in the first place, and it has really been a gamechanger (no pun intended) when it comes to indie gaming. You all should use it too, it is open source, free, and will only make your life better. Never worry about hotkeys on any game ever again, just remember to turn it off after the game is done.

Btw. I couldn't find the scenes for the survivor girls in the gallery. Did the dev neglect to put them in?

 

[Princeslayer]

Also all the complaining about hotkeys on this thread really reminded me how difficult life was before I discovered the wonders of AutoHotKey Dash. The arrow buttons on my crappy Laptop are broken, which is what led me to discover it out of necessity in the first place, and it has really been a gamechanger (no pun intended) when it comes to indie gaming. You all should use it too, it is open source, free, and will only make your life better. Never worry about hotkeys on any game ever again, just remember to turn it off after the game is done.

Btw. I couldn't find the scenes for the survivor girls in the gallery. Did the dev neglect to put them in?

Don't worry about it, if you follow then on Ci-en(something that I recommend you doing) you'll be able to see that they are already on that thing for in the gallery on the next update.(That and other things too)

 

[derakino999]

AutoHotKey Dash

what does it do
and got any links? i can find autohotkey but not this autohotkey DASH