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I don't know. They said the design was there, right? If that is the case, they would only need to sort out numbers, and get some animations moving. I think it'll only take a modest amount more time than the pillarys did. Any progression is good though.
 
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I don't know. They said the design was there, right? If that is the case, they would only need to sort out numbers, and get some animations moving. I think it'll only take a modest amount more time than the pillarys did. Any progression is good though.
Attack/combat/idle, Slave Idle/Feeding, Sex (4 positions as of now) - minimum animation. This all assumes the current code requires no modifications to accommodate her addition. So yes, that might be faster than expected, but . . . we don't know what else is being added/changed. The major bedroom upstairs was shifted to 4 individual smaller rooms as well.

I'm pretty confident in saying that the thing that held up the Pillory scenes weren't the actual scenes. The code base went under a major shift that we likely haven't seen the last of. They'll probably play around with actions for the Nation/Map as well, given how unsure they were about it.

So, in short, the Pillory itself took a long time to implement because of code. But there are many more animations that any new 'Slave' has to undergo.
 

iixviiiix

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The new elf Look like a rare unit , dev team also add elf ears to normal unit in some spine PNG in 0.5 version. Though it look like they wasn't finish so they don't add normal elf unit in 0.5.
I kind of interest how they will add rare elf unit , new animation add or reuse sister animation.
From 0.5 materials
It look like they will add more body parts for normal female unit , like horns , animal ears and tail when they add new races.
I think they will add all the adult body type before work on dwarf and small body type

I hope in this game , Rune and NPC/ boss type female can breed with monster.
In MBM , player can't fuck Rune and NPC can't breed with the monsters make the game kind of unfinished to me .
 

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Bug report. If you wonder if its possible to hit traits 6? Yes but the game will be broken afterwards... It seems like the traits calculation will cause overflow once you hit 3+ traits at gold.

It makes you unable to raid or defend...

So, just a warning to not go overboard with the grind. It's impossible without breaking the game.

If you really want high stats? Don't depend on traits. Go to here and edit their stats instead.

\ProjectR_v0.4.0.4\ProjectR_Data\StreamingAssets\character

Edit all the stats for example
Orc.character

If you want low deployment find it with Note++. It should be easy even newbie can do it.

It will look like this
"DeploymentCost": [1],

Now in game it will render all orc as cost 1 (Basically free)
 
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The new elf Look like a rare unit , dev team also add elf ears to normal unit in some spine PNG in 0.5 version. Though it look like they wasn't finish so they don't add normal elf unit in 0.5.
I kind of interest how they will add rare elf unit , new animation add or reuse sister animation.
From 0.5 materials
It look like they will add more body parts for normal female unit , like horns , animal ears and tail when they add new races.
I think they will add all the adult body type before work on dwarf and small body type

I hope in this game , Rune and NPC/ boss type female can breed with monster.
In MBM , player can't fuck Rune and NPC can't breed with the monsters make the game kind of unfinished to me .
The Elf ears have been in since the start afaik. Legacy of when they were going to be much more modular with characters, perhaps.

They definitely won't be Sisters if a rare unit is added.

All the new units are new models so far. Doubt that will change.

No idea if we will get variant units, given that they decided to remove different boob sizes early on.

Don't expect Rune to be able to breed with monsters. Early concept talked about her having sex with the Player. She's basically like our Boss. Same with special NPCs, don't expect it if they are added in. If we have characters like the Elf that ran dissection or the alchemist.
 
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I'm not sure I'm going the right way to improve my monsters.

The MC's shitty stats makes really hard to breed better slaves.
MC stats are randomized, and generally don't make 'better' slaves. If you want your best chance, you need to breed a Goblin (or Orc) and a Woman together and get a Shortstack (or Oni) that carries the right stats and traits passed down. Then you breed that to get a Woman that has the improved Traits and (maybe) stats. Then repeat the process every time you want/need to upgrade a trait.

It is a lot harder currently to get better monsters now. By a vast margin.
 
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MC stats are randomized, and generally don't make 'better' slaves. If you want your best chance, you need to breed a Goblin (or Orc) and a Woman together and get a Shortstack (or Oni) that carries the right stats and traits passed down. Then you breed that to get a Woman that has the improved Traits and (maybe) stats. Then repeat the process every time you want/need to upgrade a trait.

It is a lot harder currently to get better monsters now. By a vast margin.
Yeah, that's what I'm doing. The thing is, as I get monster girls with higher and higher purple stats, it becomes harder to get slaves with those stats because the gap between the MC and the monster girl becomes too large.

I've managed to get shortstacks with +11 atk, but didn't manage to get a single slave with those stats.

I'm trying to add other modifiers to my gene pool, but don't know how to do it without ruining the others stats that I managed to get high already.
 

Azrail26232

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How does heritability work for gender-specific stats, like conception chance for women and cumshot time for monsters? i know for the other stats, offspring generate in a range between the parents stat bonuses (+a small chance of higher), but what does that mean for stats that only exist for 1 parent. Do monsters have a hidden conception chance stat that only serves to 'pass on their genes' so to speak, or what?

Speaking of Cumshot time, has anyone managed to get a -X seconds for that,, and if so then where? I've seen +1 seconds on some of my starting gobs but monster lair babies never seem to generate with that stat for me and obviously women don't get it.
 

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How does heritability work for gender-specific stats, like conception chance for women and cumshot time for monsters? i know for the other stats, offspring generate in a range between the parents stat bonuses (+a small chance of higher), but what does that mean for stats that only exist for 1 parent. Do monsters have a hidden conception chance stat that only serves to 'pass on their genes' so to speak, or what?
Yes, they seem to have hidden stats that a child of the right gender can inherit.
Your MC usually starts with hidden stats that apply to combat units, for example.
 
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Yeah, that's what I'm doing. The thing is, as I get monster girls with higher and higher purple stats, it becomes harder to get slaves with those stats because the gap between the MC and the monster girl becomes too large.

I've managed to get shortstacks with +11 atk, but didn't manage to get a single slave with those stats.

I'm trying to add other modifiers to my gene pool, but don't know how to do it without ruining the others stats that I managed to get high already.
Yeah, that is a problem that you can't really solve. It's why the MC is the weakest link now. It's also why I don't think the way status works will stay the same in the next iteration.


Yes, they seem to have hidden stats that a child of the right gender can inherit.
Your MC usually starts with hidden stats that apply to combat units, for example.
Okay, decided to look closer into the code. Prepare to be annoyed.

Women don't inherit the Cumshot time status, and the male fetus don't inherit conception rate or fetal growth time. So getting good numbers for those is always a crap shoot.

MCs still have those hidden stats though, it'll never matter for the MC's children if he has a good cumshot time.

The male numbers are the ones that get the plus 1. And there exists an Uncap status. Here is how that works:

It takes the fetus' new status (a), the mother's status (b), and the father's status (c). It also takes two bools, one to check if positive/negative and an uncapped status.
If b and c are both equal to 0, return a.
If the number is positive, check max between mother and father, if negative check min between mother and father.
If a does not equal the min or the max (depending on if it is positive or negative), return a.

Then, after we do those checks, we check the chance a could uncap status (it's currently a 50/50 chance). If we roll rng, we go onto this math.
num2 = roundInt(UncapFactor(3) * 0.01 * Abs(a))
If num2 == 0, return a.
Then make uncapped status = true.
Return a + num2 if positive, otherwise return A - num2 if negative.
 
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The new elf Look like a rare unit , dev team also add elf ears to normal unit in some spine PNG in 0.5 version. Though it look like they wasn't finish so they don't add normal elf unit in 0.5.
I kind of interest how they will add rare elf unit , new animation add or reuse sister animation.
From 0.5 materials
It look like they will add more body parts for normal female unit , like horns , animal ears and tail when they add new races.
I think they will add all the adult body type before work on dwarf and small body type

I hope in this game , Rune and NPC/ boss type female can breed with monster.
In MBM , player can't fuck Rune and NPC can't breed with the monsters make the game kind of unfinished to me .
Elf ears have been in the game's code for quite a while now. And while it would make development faster to reuse the sister's animations, I'm willing to bet that they'll make new ones. After all, if they were going to re use assets, it's likely that 0.5 would have been pushed back then released with both the Pillary and the Elves.
I think after elves they'll add dwarves next, personally. Because Shortstacks exist, they already have a small body type. It would just need some tweaking.

I don't think it would make sense for Rune to breed with monsters. Given that we never get to touch her in MBM despite how much we do for her, she clearly holds herself at a premium. It wouldn't make much sense for her to breed with the rank and file when you spesifically have a positive relationship with her. Boss types will probably be free game like the unique gifted slaves in MBM.

The NPCs in MBM breeding with monsters wouldn't make sense either, because to brainwash them, you need to have both a home and an existing sexual relationship with them. The brainwashing probably alters their perception of you specifically, and what they're willing to do for you, so if they weren't willing to breed with monsters before, it wouldn't make them willing to do so now.
 
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Yeah, that is a problem that you can't really solve. It's why the MC is the weakest link now. It's also why I don't think the way status works will stay the same in the next iteration.
I really hope there comes a time when the MC can get buffed up. Like if he could start defending the keep as a unit (losing him would automatically be a game-over state) and gain experience and level. Or if he could take traits and stats from slaves to build himself up.

But they also need to account for the snowball effect that an endless cycle of breeding for traits and stats will always have. I know that's built-in to the game and part of the fun. But it would be nice to keep a bit of a challenge as the game progresses.
 
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I really hope there comes a time when the MC can get buffed up. Like if he could start defending the keep as a unit (losing him would automatically be a game-over state) and gain experience and level. Or if he could take traits and stats from slaves to build himself up.

But they also need to account for the snowball effect that an endless cycle of breeding for traits and stats will always have. I know that's built-in to the game and part of the fun. But it would be nice to keep a bit of a challenge as the game progresses.
I think we might see something like that, or I do hope we get it. It wouldn't be hard to script adding status, since you'd just be modifying the given value. I could see Rune or another special NPC consuming some item like the Achievement points from MBM to improve status.

Trait cycle is a bit impossible right now to snowball since they max at 3 tiers. And our current system makes it nearly impossible to snowball status, so making the value increase (or decrease) greater would be for the best. Also having gender locked status pass down properly would also be nice.
 

InfinityKiyen

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I'm not sure I'm going the right way to improve my monsters.

The MC's shitty stats makes really hard to breed better slaves.
You can edit the breeding stats and make him a quick shot (Cum a lot and fast)

\ProjectR_v0.4.0.4\ProjectR_Data\StreamingAssets\character

I edit a lot and I don't even have any problem now. Its just a shame that Nun is just a class... You can not breed them. You can only capture them.
 
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