VN Ren'Py Projekt: Passion [S3 v0.15] [Classy Lemon]

[vks017]

I am sorry if my review offended some here. You have to remember reviews are subjective and we cant always agree on ratings.

All I can say is the review was made in good faith. I did genuinely give the game a fair shot of a full playthrough. I had an issue with the render quality and variety of girls more than the animations. Maybe I could have given them 0.5-1 star more but the overall score would still be about the same.
In terms of review length sure it could be more detailed and longer but its not meant to be a professional review. Just my overall feelings that the game did not match my initial expectations.
3/5 is still an above average game score.

I am happy for all of you who are loving this game.

 

[pitao]

I am sorry if my review offended some here. You have to remember reviews are subjective and we cant always agree on ratings.

All I can say is the review was made in good faith. I did genuinely give the game a fair shot of a full playthrough. I had an issue with the render quality and variety of girls more than the animations. Maybe I could have given them 0.5-1 star more but the overall score would still be about the same.
In terms of review length sure it could be more detailed and longer but its not meant to be a professional review. Just my overall feelings that the game did not match my initial expectations.
3/5 is still an above average game score.

I am happy for all of you who are loving this game.

Yup everyone is intitled to their opinion and tastes. Didn't offend me in any way, simply didn't agree with it. You weren't like many that just because wasn't their cup of tea it would be an 1 star automatically. For you it is simply an average game, most categories were 3/5 and you didn't gave any negative 1 or 2 stars.

 

[MrBubu]

Walkthrough Update

I've updated my walkthrough on my post

Or here are direct links:
ProjektPassionS1-0.7_walkthrough-rev-1.6.pdf
ProjektPassionS2-0.11_walkthrough-rev-1.6.pdf

Visit my thread to post suggestions for my next work.

Walkthrough is also available here:

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Cheers,
Mr Bubu

 

[41shadox]

I am sorry if my review offended some here. You have to remember reviews are subjective and we cant always agree on ratings.

All I can say is the review was made in good faith. I did genuinely give the game a fair shot of a full playthrough. I had an issue with the render quality and variety of girls more than the animations. Maybe I could have given them 0.5-1 star more but the overall score would still be about the same.
In terms of review length sure it could be more detailed and longer but its not meant to be a professional review. Just my overall feelings that the game did not match my initial expectations.
3/5 is still an above average game score.

I am happy for all of you who are loving this game.

I was mostly just surprised that you thought the animations were average, it's pretty widely agreed upon that this game has some of the highest quality animations

 

[pitao]

I was mostly just surprised that you thought the animations were average, it's pretty widely agreed upon that this game has some of the highest quality animations

Yep got hooked just with the first animated sequence of the game, even though it has a sex scene right out the bat and for some can be a turn off because they may think this is just a fuckfest game, and it isn't. Also it has right after first sequence the first game over death scene with SAndrA and even though it is just a simple death it sets the (sometimes) silly awesomely mood of the game . The renders afterwards may not be everyone style aesthetically wise but it was just what I was looking for in a space sci-fi game, maybe they were a bit grainy at start but they improve a lot over the development time, it is normal in almost about any game in this site. Maybe Classy Lemon can revisit it once the game is finished and give some additional polish but imho it is much more important that the development time is used to progress the story/plot and the humor that definitely is my cup of tea haha

 

[Sancho1969]

Walkthrough Update

I've updated my walkthrough on my post

Or here are direct links:
ProjektPassionS1-0.7_walkthrough-rev-1.6.pdf
ProjektPassionS2-0.11_walkthrough-rev-1.6.pdf

Visit my thread to post suggestions for my next work.

Walkthrough is also available here:

You must be registered to see the links

Cheers,
Mr Bubu

Good morning (CST),

I very rarely eyeball other folks' work but decided to took a quick gander to see what bugs you might have found since I hadn't seen you reporting any in this thread.
FYI: I cannot replicate the following reported bug (it works fine on my end even on bench testing PC's with fresh installs):

You might want to verify on your end as Bonus I, S2 can be played (once unlocked) via both the VN's Gallery and via the Achievements screens. I checked the Cutscene as well in case that is what you are referencing, again with zero issue.

Otherwise I personally agree with the other 3 S2 bugs you mention.

Regards.

 

[vks017]

I was mostly just surprised that you thought the animations were average, it's pretty widely agreed upon that this game has some of the highest quality animations

This might be the case of me reading the hype of animations and expecting too much. That's why sometimes you can enjoy media more if you don't read reviews before hand.
In a way this game has got the balance right, the newest games with arguably better graphics including animations take too long between releases. I actually enjoy games with little to no animations just fine.

I also love sci-fi so wish this project all the best in the future.

 

[pitao]

This might be the case of me reading the hype of animations and expecting too much

I usually avoid reading reviews before trying a game exactly to not raise my expectations, I found this game thru a thread of user (SlapE) that have a list of favorite/recommended games in this site. And when I read reviews I try to read one of 5 stars, one of 3-4 stars and one of 1-2 stars so my pre judgement and expectations don't betray me lol

 

[608xperience]

Lemon, sir, I loaded S2 into Ren'Py 7.4.10.2178 and recompiled. Reset the persistence and did a fast run through S1. Loading S2 did not generate the "do you trust this save" warning and the lore in the codex was fine. So, it does seem that there's an issue with having changed Ren'Py versions. Sorry for the bad news, but at least we know the cause and cure.

I have not tested anything in a subsequent S1 run to see whether that causes problems.

Cheers!

 

[MrBubu]

Good morning (CST),

I very rarely eyeball other folks' work but decided to took a quick gander to see what bugs you might have found since I hadn't seen you reporting any in this thread.
FYI: I cannot replicate the following reported bug (it works fine on my end even on bench testing PC's with fresh installs):
View attachment 3611739
You might want to verify on your end as Bonus I, S2 can be played (once unlocked) via both the VN's Gallery and via the Achievements screens. I checked the Cutscene as well in case that is what you are referencing, again with zero issue.

Otherwise I personally agree with the other 3 S2 bugs you mention.

Regards.

Thanks for letting me know, I normally double-check everything before stating there is a bug. Since this was in a previous release I will assume it has been fixed and I missed it when I reviewed the modifications.

Either way I'll remove it from the walkthrough.

 

[Sancho1969]

Good morning PP fans,

Considering it took over a week I'm going to assume it's not due to my original personal report request but rather a few of you folks sending reports as well that (as of ~30mins ago) has the VN OP edited to add SanchoMod to the Extras listings.

Thank you for your support and allowing potential new VN fans to know they have options that they otherwise might have never known existed without this OP listing.

Regards.

 

[Elduriel]

Good morning PP fans,

Considering it took over a week I'm going to assume it's not due to my original personal report request but rather a few of you folks sending reports as well that (as of ~30mins ago) has the VN OP edited to add SanchoMod to the Extras listings.

Thank you for your support and allowing potential new VN fans to know they have options that they otherwise might have never known existed without this OP listing.

Regards.

 

[POVREVIEW]

I didnt think it was possible to have a fap and fun game but my god this is fantastic

It remind me of FINAL SPACE...... the humour is spot on well done mate loving the game

 

[Classy Lemon]

Lemon, sir, I loaded S2 into Ren'Py 7.4.10.2178 and recompiled. Reset the persistence and did a fast run through S1. Loading S2 did not generate the "do you trust this save" warning and the lore in the codex was fine. So, it does seem that there's an issue with having changed Ren'Py versions. Sorry for the bad news, but at least we know the cause and cure.

I have not tested anything in a subsequent S1 run to see whether that causes problems.

Cheers!

So what would you say my options are?

 

[608xperience]

So what would you say my options are?

At this point, I'm uncertain. The current situation is that you've essentially got one big game that's split across two different Ren'Py versions. If you leave it as is, players moving to S2 will lose their S1 saves and that compromises their replays. If you repackage S1 to use the newer Ren'Py version that S2 uses, it's likely to also be that S1 users lose their existing saves, but new ones would work fine. And, finally, if you change S2 back to the old Ren'Py version that S1 uses, S2 saves will be broken.

There may be a way to fix the saves, but it's beyond my current knowledge. I know other devs, such as Droosk, have managed to transition from one version to another without breaking saves, but I do not know what steps were taken.

 

[Tremonia]

There may be a way to fix the saves, but it's beyond my current knowledge. I know other devs, such as Droosk, have managed to transition from one version to another without breaking saves, but I do not know what steps were taken.

The "easiest" way is to create a transfer tool in S1, with Python for example. Instead of saving it via Ren'Py you create an own save format where you save all the variables of the game in the state the player set at the end of the game. In S2 you use an import tool which reads out the variables and sets them in Ren'Py. I'm sure there're some guys on GitHub who already did that and made the code available.

 

[TangerineTango]

Damn, I've been playing this game since last year and only now I realized that if you click the achievements, you get a bonus images or story XD ...dang it lmao

Anyway, damn, got a lot of background worthy images this update, top notch as always

 

[TangerineTango]

Also, this is how I imagine Emily would do after developing those photos.

 

[608xperience]

The "easiest" way is to create a transfer tool in S1, with Python for example. Instead of saving it via Ren'Py you create an own save format where you save all the variables of the game in the state the player set at the end of the game. In S2 you use an import tool which reads out the variables and sets them in Ren'Py. I'm sure there're some guys on GitHub who already did that and made the code available.

EDITED ANSWER: The task is to not burn existing saves. I think the easiest route here is just to upgrade Ren'Py on Season 1 and put up with the pain of losing persistence. Mostly, I think the general rule is that you just don't change Ren'Py versions mid-project unless there are really serious reasons for doing so.

 

[608xperience]

So, I just made a build of 0.7 (AKA Season 1) on Ren'Py 7.6.1, which is the same as the version of Ren'Py used for Season 2. Starting it auto-nukes all of the Season 1 persistence that was created with the 7.4.10 build. The lore and achievements are all scrubbed in the same fashion as happens when starting the Season 2 game. At the most basic, then, this is a matter of Ren'Py versions really, really needing to be the same for all Projekt: Passion seasons, period.

My advice, which is worth what you've paid for it , would be to make a new S1 build with the same newer version as S2 uses. S1 saves will still work in both S1 and S2 on the new Ren'Py. The achievements and lore will be lost in S1, but replays will rebuild those and persistence will be retained between S1 and S2 from there onwards.

People will inevitably complain, but making a new S1 build has better long-term benefits. Upgrading Ren'Py on S1 will preserve the gaming experience for new players discovering PP for the first time and starting with S1. So, I think that's the wise move for keeping all those newcomers to the title happy on Steam. That's where the big money is.